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Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:58 am
by Madavascus
Fellow occultists,
Since 2007, I have felt a subtle yet growing anxiety in the cosmos. I don't know if this is related to the ultimate fate of the universe, or if this relates to a coming cataclysm, or something else, but as the months pass into years, the sensation gets stronger and I feel the ether is charged with the idea of impending doom. When I concentrate, I can see with my mind's eye an opaque darkness looming overhead like thick clouds of black ink ready to unleash a storm of fire and brimstone. I feel anger, wrath. I feel a fiery exultation in destruction. I see a great womb, maybe Time itself, pregnant with a child that will change everything forever. I hear a deep voice speaking in a language I don't understand, summoning forth something monstrous in our world, and sometimes, I hear a name: Vindex. Which being roughly translated from Latin means "Avenger."
Change is a constant in our universe, but what I feel is coming up soon is huge. The world will be turned upside down by what's about to happen. I hate to be so vague (and so dramatic), but lately these feelings have become so overbearing I can't help but share them. Those of you know me, know that I don't usually post this kind of stuff... especially considering that I feel this is extremely personal in nature.
Personally, I interpret these feelings and intuitive moments as signs of a coming great war, maybe a Third World War. I just know that it will not just affect me, but absolutely everyone in the world.
I wonder if any of you have felt something similar, or have experienced such things in your divinations... And how you cope with it if you do/did. Accepting that everything must pass through some form of destruction or change doesn't seem to help.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid...
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:42 am
by Occultess
I have seen in meditation a black something. I don't know if it's what you are talking about. It was darkness, but opaque and thick. It was more like it was an entity than just merely the absence of light. It moved through the air around the room, never really had a definite form. It just moved.
There is an occultist that I like that says there is something around (or coming?) that he describes as basically being like The Nothing in the Neverending Story. I believe he said it was dark matter, actually. He talks about it on video on the web, if you'd like to hear him. I'll hunt it down if you want.
I don't think you're being paranoid.
I'm studying Revelations right now and what's to come is certainly on my mind. Not because I'm reading that, but because we are in the middle of it.
We can talk about this more in PM's if you'd like.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:54 pm
by Madavascus
Thank you for taking me seriously, Occultess. I find that description about The Nothing from the Neverending Story to be strangely accurate. It feels like it could devour everything in its path. It also feels very misanthropic. The anger I described earlier is more like a tangible hatred for mankind. Sometimes I wonder if the origin of this misanthropic anger may not be the Earth itself: we ruthlessly defile our Great Mother and the world's population may double in twenty odd years. We consume Her treasures without discipline, and with little respect or regard for Her bounty. In the end, the origins for this feeling of impending doom does seem to be chthonic, and when I say cosmos, in this case I mean it on a planetary scale.
I would like to hear about that occultist, and discuss all of this more privately if you wish, although the community may benefit more from an open discussion.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:47 am
by Occultess
The occultist is Joshua Free. Here's the video where he talks about The Nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mardukite?f ... y5ZPv-DCYo
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:03 pm
by Madavascus
Hmm... Thank you for sharing this Occultess, but I must admit that I don't find myself in agreement with this gentleman.
The so-called "dark matter" observable in the physical universe is not anti-matter... it's probably weakly interacting massive particles. So because of this, I don't think I agree that dark matter is comparable to The Nothing of The Neverending Story.
Furthermore... I wasn't capable of deciphering most of what he said, as his mind seemed to be rather scattered. One moment he was discussing the Anunnaki coming to earth millennia ago, the other about doubt cancelling all magical progress.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:37 am
by Clockwork Ghost
The great doom I see coming for mankind isnt war, because we have always had war, its complete removal of our imaginations and our will to go forwards through anything other than state sanctioned methods. When government and big business controlls everything, as has been seen to be taking place with their attempts to push through the SOPA legislation recently, and God Money has the final say over what we can and cannot think then the true darkness that heralds the end will have come. Fear of the big war is merely a cover, a mask to keep our eyes diverted from whats really happening behind the scenes, and has been since the beginning of the 20th century and before.
This probably sounds like real paranoia, but its how I feel - yes, I feel a sense of impending doom too, but its not one of complete destruction, its one of complete stagnation and control.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:30 am
by Occultess
Madavascus wrote:
Furthermore... I wasn't capable of deciphering most of what he said, as his mind seemed to be rather scattered. One moment he was discussing the Anunnaki coming to earth millennia ago, the other about doubt cancelling all magical progress.
Yeah, he was pretty scattered in that video. He isn't usually like that, though. Normally, all you might encounter is being lost in the trail of his mind and vast knowledge when he starts talking a little too fast about something and I'm not versed enough in the subject to keep up. Even that's rare, though. Kinda depends on what he's talking about and if his mouth starts to go faster then my ability to comprehend. Ahh, but then I just make use of replay.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:44 am
by Madavascus
Case wrote:The great doom I see coming for mankind isnt war, because we have always had war, its complete removal of our imaginations and our will to go forwards through anything other than state sanctioned methods. ... I feel a sense of impending doom too, but its not one of complete destruction, its one of complete stagnation and control.
Hmm, well put. It is true that the current format of "modern civilization" has to some degree stripped us of our Promethean spirit: the very essence of the West, and replaced it with greed. I wonder if this sapping of our imagination and will, which are components of the Promethean spirit I mentioned (particularly will), is responsible for the growing desperation felt in popular movements (large or small) that would like to restore this said Promethean spirit. By these movements, I mean any Western group with subversive ideas.
This sapping of our strength is indeed having disastrous effects on the overall health of our species, and may well doom us all in the end.
In my original post, I mentioned a vengeful entity, anger and wrath. From what we've been discussing, I'm beginning to believe that there is a part of us in our collective consciousness that is trying to pierce through the conformist state power, and really subvert it in a very real way. There's something big behind all this, for certain.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:24 am
by Occultess
Case, have you ever read, A Modern Utopia, by H.G. Wells?
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:40 am
by Clockwork Ghost
Occultess wrote:Case, have you ever read, A Modern Utopia, by H.G. Wells?
Probably about 20 years ago, yes. I remember thinking that any 'perfect world' concept is ultimately flawed because such a concept is so subjective to an individuals idea of what perfection represents, plus if the true purpose of life is neverending happiness then not a lot of the tedious jobs of supply and maintenance will ever get done behind the scenes. Other people have also posed similar ideals, such as the ancient Greeks who believed that a true ruler should be someone who didnt want to rule, as this would make them more honest and less likely to attempt to sieze power for their own nefarious ends.
As a race we're simply just too self destructive and warlike to ever acede to true peace - we will never simply lay down our weapons and divide resources sensibly if we can do so through war and a show of might. Hells, Communism was supposed to be the answer to ultimate freedom from capitalist forces and greed and look what happened there - give anyone power over someone else and they simply seek more power at the expense of others, and as we will always need someone to make sure things get done until such a time that everything becomes totally automated by infallable and unbreakable machines, we will always need someone to control the issues of supply and maintenance.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:22 am
by Occultess
Huh, I came from that book a much creepier feeling then you did, I guess. I read it a few years ago and thought it'd be horrible and over-controlled and.....well, like Hitler's manual if he was a slightly nicer person. Plus, I could see it happening. I could compare the one form of money to the Euro and the machine without a name which would send documents through a tube to distant places in an instant to a fax machine and the other machine without a name to a copy machine. I compare the one single language of the whole world to the "English monster". I mean, it's natural for languages to integrate into other languages a little, but the speed and amount English has been doing this lately (I'm assuming, because of our movies and music being so wide spread.....not to mention our lack of desire to *gasp* learn the other guy's language) is way more than is normal. I'm even, now, looking at Wells' idea that getting around by electric tram will be the way to get around in his Utopia to the Obama idea of building a bunch of Trams in the U.S. In his Utopia, in my opinion, everything would be pointless. He wanted the one language to make it easier for poeple to travel to foreign lands, because the language barrier was a big reason people didn't travel places they wanted to go. But to remove all the other languages, part of the reason you might want to travel to a foreign land would have been lost. Then add that the figured, because of the trams and the way jobs worked, that people would probably move every 2 years. With that amound of people moving so frequently, cultures would soon mix, then disappear comletely, and that would remove most of the other reasons to travel.
There's even a group on the internet that "claims" to be the Illuminati (which I doubt), but they seem to have an, atleast, similar plan. I haven't gone through their whole website, yet, but....they even say something about them "coming from the shadows". I think it might have been an almost direct quote from the book. You know, that part where it says that the Utopia came to be, because one day in the past, a secret society that have been in the shadows for a long time, emerged and .....well basically said, "ok, we're taking over". Creepily enough, I think these people are going to do it, too. Their site is riddled with psychology used to manipulate and brainwash. THAT probably sounds paranoid, but if you read their site, you'd see what I was saying. They even tell you what psychology methods they are using on you, but say their the methods of the opposition. I really can't tell if they do this because they are trying to help you figure out their plan or because they are THAT arrogant! This site is like reading an electronic Nazi pamplet. I think they even proposed to implement something like the "Samurai". I know they want a 100% inheritance tax, and believe that comes from the book, too.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:33 pm
by Clockwork Ghost
Your observations are very astute, Occultess. As to the Illuminati advertising their presence, If such a group do exist I seriously doubt that they will be making such noises, and will instead be operating so far behind the scenes as to be completely invisible.
Out of interest, have you ever read 'The Prince' by Niccolo Machiavelli? That book seriously 'creeped me out' for its deep rooted sociological manipulations.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:08 am
by Madavascus
Case wrote:... have you ever read 'The Prince' by Niccolo Machiavelli? That book seriously 'creeped me out' for its deep rooted sociological manipulations.
The question wasn't directed at me, but I just feel like commenting that I own a translation and revere that book as one of the most important treatises of political science ever written... Machiavelli was a political genius, if he actually meant what he wrote. If he didn't, then he was a master comedian. [smile]
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:37 am
by Clockwork Ghost
Madavascus wrote:
The question wasn't directed at me, but I just feel like commenting that I own a translation and revere that book as one of the most important treatises of political science ever written... Machiavelli was a political genius, if he actually meant what he wrote. If he didn't, then he was a master comedian. [smile]
Out of interest, did you know that the 'Machiavelli quotient' is a measure used by psychologists to discern whether a person is a psychopath or not? [grin]
As I've said before in regards to Communism, the best laid political plans may look fantastic on paper, but as soon as you add people to the mix with all their self-destructive traits and propensity to seek personal gain at the expense of others, every political and social structure will slowly revert back towards barbarism. We havent really progressed much farther than the stone age in terms of our ability to make fair and just socieities in my opinion - we just now have bigger and more powerful weapons and more ways of killing each other.
Oh, and another bit of useless information (I seem to have plenty today) - did you know that discussing the perfect society used to be the favourite topic of the ancient Greek philosophers, and entire schools of thought went into what systems of governance would best suit that purpose?
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:16 am
by Occultess
No, I've never read, The Prince. Maybe I'll see if they've got it on Project Gutenberg.
I agree about the difference between political systems on paper and in practice. They never seem to see the "practice" part. By the time, practice comes in, every image of beauty written down on paper becomes twisted. Oh, sure.....they might have a Golden Period for a while,....but the people running these things are always societies biggest and most immature idiots, so the Rusty Tin Can That Gives You Tetnis Period always wins out.
Maybe if the people who came up with the great political ideas were the only ones who ever ran them, ....maybe they would work then. But then, I suppose they would have to be immortal or something for that to go very far. Maybe that's the reason for the dynasitc system.
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:04 pm
by Madavascus
Case wrote:Madavascus wrote:
The question wasn't directed at me, but I just feel like commenting that I own a translation and revere that book as one of the most important treatises of political science ever written... Machiavelli was a political genius, if he actually meant what he wrote. If he didn't, then he was a master comedian. [smile]
Out of interest, did you know that the 'Machiavelli quotient' is a measure used by psychologists to discern whether a person is a psychopath or not? [grin]
As I've said before in regards to Communism, the best laid political plans may look fantastic on paper, but as soon as you add people to the mix with all their self-destructive traits and propensity to seek personal gain at the expense of others, every political and social structure will slowly revert back towards barbarism. We havent really progressed much farther than the stone age in terms of our ability to make fair and just socieities in my opinion - we just now have bigger and more powerful weapons and more ways of killing each other.
Oh, and another bit of useless information (I seem to have plenty today) - did you know that discussing the perfect society used to be the favourite topic of the ancient Greek philosophers, and entire schools of thought went into what systems of governance would best suit that purpose?
Well now, I didn't know about the Machiavelli quotient. You've piqued my interest! [eg]
Yes, the ancient Greek philosophers did indeed enjoy discoursing about the perfect society, and I think the divine Plato's
The Republic is a case in point. [smile]
Re: Feeling Impending Doom
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:17 pm
by Penelope
Wow, interesting topic.
I have two hands in on this; the first is the experiences of a (very) few friends scattered across the world, who are claiming visions of something similar, or are making preparations or are just out there looking for power before it comes (and finding it, and being veeeery quiet about it).
On the other hand, is my personal experience. I have felt this and dismissed it as paranoia
or something that I can't do anything about; redundant to take action, physical, mental, emotional, magical, in either case. But I did have an experience of something a couple of years ago that set me a little more on edge.
A chop from my journal, 11.05.10: The background is that I was going through a very experimental phase with magic and some contacts of mine, and had asked to be let into the Big Secret. Like when you're five and you imagine that once you get to twelve you will be told a Big Secret that makes the world easier to understand. And when you're fifteen you imagine that when you're a legal adult you will be imparted with the grand knowledge of the Big Secret and it will all be very natural. I imagined a Big Secret, and I was on the way back from a meeting with a friend. My friend was driving; I was in the passenger seat.
On our way back into the town in which we live there is a hill, at the top of which is a roundabout. On the approach to this roundabout, the sky suddenly and strangely begins to darken-- like the clouds don't like the town ahead, and have decided it shouldn't have any sun. As we go up the hill I begin to notice several cars by the side of the road. I look around at them and see that at least three aren't even parked, they look abandoned, as though post break down and refusal to roll to one side. My friend keeps driving.
As we get closer and closer to the roundabout, the wind seems to be picking up. It's still hot, but the place is rapidly darkening. By the side of the road are fallen leaves, as though it isn't bloody May at all. More cars appear abandoned, and my friend still carries on talking and driving, and now i'm looking around wondering if there has been an incident or accident and not really listening to what she's saying.
The road levels out at the top of the hill one hundred yards or so before the roundabout, and here is where my journey begins.
A red volvo is sat with it's doors open across both lanes, no driver or passengers. A green micra swerves from the left exit to avoid the vehicle and forces my friend to swerve violently left again to avoid a collision. Time begins to blur and then, somehow, fades completely. Sensation leaves the building. I am left with nothing to hold on to, just swirling impressions and the thought of searing heat, blackness that is somehow red and no sight, no hearing, no feeling. I cannot touch a thing, I have no idea where I am or what's happening. Immediately my reaction is to panic and struggle, which I vehemently resist as I remember that I probably asked for this, whatever the hell is going on.
There is nothing to suggest that I am moving or travelling, but things around what I can still half-tell is me begin to change, at what rate I have no idea. There is no time, there are no fixed points anywhere! There is no real awareness, no sense of boundary or safety.
Other stuff is out there! I can imagine myself hearing growling or something similar, but i'm blind and deaf and it's terrifying not knowing what it is, just having thoughts of heat and darkness and bright red and still feeling and sensing nothing at all. For a moment I have one clear thought: Perhaps this is Hell.
It has been a moment and a years worth of impression... and then:
The discovery of thought in words shocks me straight into awareness. Holding on to that point and trying to drift instead of fade gives me new purpose and I try and take in as much as possible before the end. Everything ends eventually. I can remember this, and calm down significantly. And wait.
Softly, softly, I have legs and arms and then in a blaring shriek that seems to come from nowhere, I'm back in the passenger seat, back on the road, back with a body with lights (very, very bright lights) and a breeze and sounds and colors.
I am too startled to react badly and so fall back into the usual thinking routine of first checking where I am. Five minutes drive further up the road, by a large junction on the warehouse turning.
Everything seems normal. I ask my friend what just happened. She turns the music down and has me repeat myself.
Apparently there was no near miss at the roundabout. There was no swerve, the sky didn't change, nothing out of the ordinary. Not sure if i'm hearing her right, I nod and wait until I get out of the car at my house a few minutes later to unlock the door, get into the downstairs loo and dry-heave for a minute or two.
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I've had a little bit of time to think about this, but not enough. I'm just getting it down so that I can get it out of the forefront of my mind. Before I go mad.
I got what I wanted so I thanked and revered my go-to-guy accordingly. We will work together again some time and i'll observe him throughout the year. I sometimes wonder if he does the same in return.
Still reeling from that experience.
Sorry it's a bit TL;DR. Does any of this ring familiar to any of you? Your thoughts certainly do with me.