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Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:29 am
by msrb999
Hi,

I am new here. I only have poor knowledge about magic.There are many types of magic, but how do i know which type of magic is best for me? I lack necessary knowledge to find out myself. Can any one help me?

Thank You.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:37 am
by Frater_NT
Welcome,
You have some different options for different kinds of magic. Here's a short list:

Ceremonial magic - You have the Golden Dawn, Thelema, Franz Bardon, etc. Here you have tons of rituals that are full of symbolism from the qabalah. There is some magic to change the world around you, but a vast majority of it is aimed at spiritual evolution. Worth checking out if you want to focus less on materialism and more on personal growth.

Witchcraft - This term has become tricky over the years. Some people equate witchcraft as the same thing as wicca (a religion), while others think that witchcraft is entirely a craft. So, keep in mind that for everyone the word witchcraft means different things. You have different choices here as well. Wicca is the most popular form today (or should I say did the best job marketing itself?).Like I said, this is a religion so check it out to see if it's what you believe. It might fir you or it might not. There are also forms of traditional witchcraft. Some people view traditional witchcraft as a religion while others don't. There are many forms of trad craft so you'll have to do some digging on it. Honestly, there are trad craft books on amazon and the material itself is very close to what you would find in wicca minus all the new agey stuff and silly 3-fold laws [rolleyes] There are also reconstruction groups out there. As the name implies, these people take the available information from anthropologists and archeologists and try to recreate old pre-christian religions.

Chaos magic - Chaos can be very confusing due to its lack of rules and structure. It's hard to even call it a system especially since the person doing the magic can use anything that works. The chaote (chaos magician) uses the latest understanding of psychology and Neuro-linguistic programming to cause change in the world. Sigils and servitors are popular methods of chaos magic.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:44 am
by Ramscha
Well, to make it short, one question: What do you seek? If you know the answer, you know what fits for you.

Ramscha

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:32 pm
by Frumens
This is a copy past from another forum. This article was written from the perspective of a ceremonial magician, so it might have a bias.

Chaos magic was founded by A.O Spare, a magician in the earlier part of the 20th century, and revolves around two things: Chaos theory, and the use of any religion or belief required for the successful casting of a spell. The former is simply a theory which states that all things exist as chaos before they are organized into a state of completion. So, essentially, it is viewed(for example) that before the universe was created, all that existed was the state of being known as chaos. It is only because chaos exists that it can be organized, and therein the source of all organized existence is the chaos which existed before.

In the latter component of chaos magic, the idea is that the magician should not be restricted to any one religious belief, and therein be bound to a specific set of spells within that belief system. It is held among chaos magicians that the magician should avail himself of any religious beliefs required for the successful casting of a desired spell. So if for the successful casting of one spell you need to be Jewish, and adhere to their hierarchies and pantheon, then you shall do so, dropping that belief after the spell has been cast. If the spell requires the worship of an Egyptian deity, then the magician shall adhere to the Egyptian pantheon for the entirety of the operation, and believe in it for as long as the spell requires.

The most popular aspects of Chaos magic are sigilization and servitore creation, which are essentially the catalyzing of the magicians thoughts into some type of form, be it a symbol or a type of entity thought-form. Its contribution to modern magic has been a large part of magic theory.

Chaos Magic has very few ethical or spiritual overtones in most instances. Various pioneers of the system have even suggested that the "Chaote" should go out of his way to be hedenistic in some ways, and disregard moral concepts as products of religious dogma. Towards that ends it is sometimes called Discordian or Luciferian, with a heavy emphasis on personal liberties.

Positives: Chaos Magic is a very liberating experience for many people, and offers a certain fresh breath of air morally and ethically that many people today yearn for. It is in some ways especially appealing to youths who grew up in households where an established religion was forced upon them, since it allows them to stretch their legs, so to say. If you are looking for a no-strings-attached approach to causing natural phenomenon and controlling your inherent abilities, Chaos Magic may be worth a look.

Negatives: Because of its more libertine type, it attracts alot of "rebellious youth" which often makes it difficult to take the system and its representatives seriously. It is also, incidentally, quite "chaotic." Many of its teachers disagree on sometimes very pivotal issues, there are few universally practiced techniques, and other such things, which makes it hard to make a brotherhood out of it. The speed with which control over basic natural phenomenon comes to the successful Chaote often exagerates the ego as well, and makes him think he is a teacher before he is ready, causing a number of pseudo-teachers within the Chaos Magic community. Chaos Magic is also a very new system of magic, and therefore has not produced a number of model magicians to examine, in order to grade the efficiency of the system as a whole.

Qabalah
The Qabalah is an ancient mystery school within the Jewish religion. It first began to become popular in western magic in the early 1600's with the emergence of some Rosicrucian fraternities who taught religious symbolism of the Judeo-Christian paradigm. Simultaneously a number of so-called Qaballistic "grimoires" surfaced, which claimed to use Qaballistic symbolism for its magic. It was taught intermittently in Masonic and branched Rosicrucian organizations until the late 1800's, when the Golden Dawn brought it together as a valid system for categorization, proposed its use as a general tool of classification for the magician, and subsequently made it famous in the field of magic.

The Qabalah has speculative, theoretical, mathematical, practical, and mystical meanings and applications. On a basic level, the corpus of Qaballistic wisdom was originally compiled as the means of interpreting the Old Testament of the Bible, the Tanakh, and understanding such sacred texts as the Talmud and Mishnah. In that light the Old Testament was held to be highly symbolic, and to contain amongst other things teachings on doctrines such as the creation of the universe, death and reincarnation, and magic. It was thought that the Tanakh was compiled divinely by master adepts, and that the most sublime teachings were codified within it for those who knew how to look. The Qabalah was the method of searching for those secret teachings.

Within Qaballistic circles of initiation, which there are now few legitimate groups for, there are entire sets of magical and mystical practices. The Qaballist avails himself of the Ma'aseh Merkava, the Celestial Chariot thought to immortalize and deify the self, and bring the soul of the Qabalist to sit at the right hand of God. This is accomplished by following "the way of return," a secret system of rituals, spiritual adherences, and meditations meant to gradually illuminate the soul. Though there are teachings involving the control of the outer world, such as the use of symbolism and of various Divine Names, the bulk of the teachings are transcendental. None the less such fantastic accomplishments as the prophetic golem of Albertus Magnus and the homonculus of Abbot Trithemius are attributed to a knowledge of the Qabalah.

Positives: There are many rich texts and rabbinical writings on the Qabalah, both magically and mystically inclined. Over at least two thousand years the system has been refined to a complete unit, and it has produced quite a number of saints and adepts about whom stories abound. For those who are drawn to long hours of study, there is enough provided in the Qabalah and in the interpretation of the Tanakh to busy a dedicated person for the rest of his life. There is also the western take, called the "Rosicrucian Qabalah," which provides definite templates for the use of Qaballistic knowledge for magical purposes of lower and higher natures.

Negatives: Since the open publication of the Qaballistic system of categorization called the Tree of Life in the early 20th century, it has been subject to a good bit of butchering from various so-called authorities. The actual bulk of the Qabalah, which has little to do with the Tree of Life, has become more or less ignored. This can make it difficult to find someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Another difficulty is the problem presented of trying to become accepted by a rabbinical Qabalistic adept, with an established initiatory line. Such rabbi are often racist, and are hard pressed to teach anyone but a sworn Jew of Jewish birth. Unfortunately it is in such air-tight lineages that many of the greater secrets of the Qabalah are concealed.


Hermetics
Today, the Qabalah is considered part and parcel of Hermetic Magic. In truth the Hermetic Sciences have been around for centuries, and likely predate the Qabalah by a healthy two or three thousand years. In a way the Qabalah evolved from the Hermetic tradition of Egypt, which the Qabalah is largely a translation of. The science is named in honor of its semi-mythological founder, Hermes Trismegistus, the great magus who so powerfully impacted the spiritual teachings of Egypt and Greece.

Hermeticism revolves around heavy moralistic and transcendental ideas. The hermetic magician rejects the physical world as an illusion of ideas, a play of lights against a backdrop. He is seen as living in a world of ignorance, on a ladder of such worlds where each new level is progressively closer to Truth. "Truth" is seen as the First Cause, the silent, eternal, self-begotten beginning of all things that is considered the highest God, and often called "The Good." The magician seeks union, or "Henosis," with that Supreme God. This is achieved by proper living, the observance of spiritual principles and laws, meditation, and ritual magic. Very little emphasis is put on magically influencing external phenomenon, though it is taught that such powers automatically develop for the hermetic magician over time, as a result of his ascent towards divinity.

The Invocation of God-Forces and the Evocation of Spirits are central practices of the Hermetic Science, which undertakes "The Great Work" of purifying and deifying the self. Control over the four elements, which are seen as the most immediate stepping stones to climb out of the influence of this world, forms a bulk of the initial training in this system, according to such Hermeticists as Agrippa and Bardon. Practices such as Alchemy and Astrology also play central roles in the progression of the system, and the creation of the fabled "Philosopher's Stone" is ascribed to this path.

Positives: A morally strong system focused on purification and evolution, it perfectly fits those students who are more mystically inclined, and want to focus on advancing themselves in a transcendental direction. Many of the most famous magicians of the past 2,600 years have been Hermetic Magicians, including such towering figures as Pythagoras, Hermes Trismegistus, Apollonius of Tyana, Iamblichus, Agrippa, Paracelsus, Francis Bacon, Benjamin Franklin, Le Comte St. Germain, Aleister Crowley, and Franz Bardon. This results in there being a huge body of text available for study, and plenty of examples for motivation and inspiration. There are also a number of Magic Orders, which serve as colleges for magical training within the Hermetic paradigm, all over the world. This means that every hermetic student will have a place to go to learn.

Negatives: Hermeticism is morally strict, and has a tendency to develop into dogmatism, especially in second and third-generation schools. Likewise though much has been written about its philosophies, there has been comparatively little written about its practices. What little has been written is often very ritualistic, which makes its practice difficult for those who have never had a teacher, or for those who have trouble securing privacy and enough space. Because of its age, there are also many "splinters" of the tradition, which can make it difficult to decide on a good Order or Teacher to begin the path with.


The Northern Path
What has been labled "The Northern Path," for lack of a better term, is the pursuit of magic and mysticism through the tools and symbols of Scandinavian mythology and its initiates. In many ways this winds up revolving around a knowledge of the runes and their uses for magic and for divination. However the true initiate of this path must also be familiar with the symbolic meaning of the travels of Odin, with the initiatic symbolism represented by Baldur, and with the proper means of invoking the Gods of Asgard.

Today, the principle use of this path involves Runemal, the application of the 24 runes for divinatory purposes. The Gothi ("priest") will case the 24 runes in any of a number of ways, and according to the tradition he has learned, will interpret them in a manner similar to the I-Ching, the casting of lots, or the Tarot. Another common practice is that of making Bind Runes, which is an ancient practice of combining the runes into symbols appropriate for the task at hand. This serves as a sort of sigil creation method for the Gothi, and is used specifically to accomplish some kind of magical effect.

Another part of Scandinavian Magic is the use of the Gladr Charms, which are a series of charms which bring about specific effects, and of which Odin speaks in the Havamal, a poetic recording of the Allfather’s words to men. They essentially contain a combination of bind runes which will best bring about the desired effect. The proper enaction of the Galdr charms requires that one be in turn with the runes via the Oral Galdr Incantation and Vibrations.

Positives: There is a rich and interesting mythology intimately connected to this system of magic, which allows the student to immerse himself in lore. The runes themselves are provably very powerful magic talismans, and with consistent use natural magic can be easily worked with bindrunes and the galdr. They also provide for a very easy but accurate system of divination which has become increasingly popular over the last forty years. I personally often use the runes for a "morning casting," a quick and easy divinatory casting to get a basic glimpse of what the day will likely hold, though I often only do such on days of importance.

Negatives: There is a massive circle of misinformation in the area of runic magic, largely due to a New-Age inspired, heavily Wiccan-like earth based religion called Asatruism. Family lines of Scandinavian Magic have openly spoken against the inaccuracies of the magical practices taught by these Asatru groups, but little real headway has been made. Unfortunately, most books available on the use of the runes come from this movement. There is also extremely little written record of the traditional teachings and practices of runic magic, and by the time what few ancient texts we have today were finally written down they had been influenced by the migration of Christianity into the area. This makes a genuine pursuit of this system nearly impossible today.



Talismanic Magic
Also called Enchantment, talismanic magic is the “blessing,” or enchanting of an item to magical ends. The operation of the enchantment may involve the vibration of divine names, the inscribing of words in magical alphabets and languages, the charging of sigils and power words upon the item, the simple infusion of energy and will, or many other approaches to the same ends, each with effectiveness which vary only with the magician’s personal preferences and attitude.

However, Talismanic magic extends as the system of enchantment to more than simply inanimate objects. The skilled enchanter can cast what is often called a bewitchment upon a desired person, bringing love, bad luck, good luck, etc, upon that person. In this way, the dynamics learned in enchanting can be easily applied to regular magical operations.

Most commonly, talismanic magic is used to create things such as protection amulets, to guard houses and people from attack by both entites and the malicious wills of other people.

Positives: Usually taught in easy and straight-forward manners. A number of occult authors over the centuries have published encyclopedic collections of talismanic knowledge. Though recognized as a system of magic within itself by some groups today, it was traditionally a part of many larger magical systems.

Negatives: Fairly restrictive, in that one consistently needs something to carry the energy in. However, the enchanter will gradually develop the power to manipulate energies more directly. It also requires a considerable amount of study to become an accomplished enchanter, since one needs a vast understanding of the interrelations of complex sets of symbolism.

Elementalism
The backbone of beginning magic, in my opinion. Elementalism is the use of those energies which are associated to the four elements as recognized by Plato, which are earth, fire, air, and water. A full and very complete look at the ins and outs of elemental magic is provided in my "Treatise on Elemental Magic," available here on Veritas. Suffice to say here that it has long been held by many genuine magical traditions that the elements are the basic building blocks of our world, and that their mastery is the first step to liberation from the sorrows and sufferings of this world.

Elementalism entails not only the use of all those elements on a celestial, intellectual and manifest level, but also the conjuring of those spirits which are called “elementals,” and the use of them in order to enact magical operations.

Positives: Unlike a majority of magical traditions, the practice of elemental magic for both natural magic phenomenon and spiritual evolution has been clearly outlined in a published work called "Initiation into Hermetics," written by Franz Bardon. This has given a sort of frame of reference for practical elemental work on an effective scale.

Negatives: Franz Bardon's works are really the only straight-forward authoritative books available for the practice of elemental magic. Many works, like Agrippa's, are cryptic and hard to transfer into practice, whereas those of people such as Paracelsus are largely alchemical in application.


Shamanism
Shamanism is best known as the old Indian methodology of magic, in which each tribe had a “witchdoctor,” or “medicine man” of sorts. This tribal leader was in charge of all religious rituals, making sure the tribe stayed in good favor of the gods, dealing with any diseases within the village, protecting it from outsiders and evil spirits alike.

As great as that all is, a complete system of divination, healing and summoning within itself, most modern magicians only worry themselves with the shamanic methods of certain meditations, in which the magician will learn how to induce a state of trance, other important states of altered mindsets, as well as induce “shamanic adventures,” in which the mind is set free, residing in some place within the depths of the soul in meditation. The difference between this and basic visualization of being in, lets say, a windy field, is that in shamanic meditation, you can actually feel the wind, hear the surrounding wildlife, and smell the grass.

"Shamanism," however, applies to a rather wide array of spiritual practices, and not just a particular path. The Shamanism of the Native Americans for example, which is most popular in the United States, and which has many similarities to Amazonian Shamanism in South America, is quite different from the Samian Shamanism of northern Europe. Other "Shamanic" practices such as those of the Kahunas of Hawaii, are quite similar to the tantric practices of yogis in northern India. Some are more concerned with phenomenon, whereas others are more focused on spiritual evolution. Thorough investigation will bring to light which system of Shamanism is suited for you.

Positives: Regardless of where on the globe it is, a defining characteristic of Shamanism is often that it is practiced by cultural tribes that were comparatively technologically unadvanced for most of history. The result is that it is usually intense natural, and connects its students intimately with the energies of the Earth, and of the nature spirits. This is largely the reason for its boom in popularity amongst the New Age movement, since as the world becomes more technologically advanced, many people seek relaxation in nature. In a full Shamanic tradition, should one be fortunate enough to have access to such a lineage, it is usually a highly diverse and practical system which will develop many magical skills across multiple levels.

Negatives: The embrace of Shamanism by the New Age Movement has caused a flow of misinformation regarding the actual nature and practices of the tradition. So-called "authorities" on the subject are often only people who went to a village and studied the shamans for a handful of years, and not fully initiated masters from a direct lineage themselves. Because of the nature of the tradition, many Master Shamans are not able to write, or have no access to publishers and the likes, or simply have no interest at all in the modern world. Thus very few real authorities have written good sourcebooks for the practice of Shamanism. Instead, self-proclaimed shamans, usually Americans, make up techniques and publish them as being Shamanic practices.

Wicca
Though it has slowed down some in this last decade, Wicca is still likely the largest portion of the New Age Movement. It is a nature-based pagan religion, as well as a magical tradition, since much of the religious worship is magical and ritualistic in nature. The common nomenclature of "spells" and "hexes" is due largely to Wicca and its offshoots, and the system has essentially taken over the title "witch," a witch now being largely considered a Wiccan. The common use of the pentagram and the appearance of "wands" and the likes as hobby shops and New Age stores is the direct cause of the success of Wicca in the west.

Wicca was founded in the 1950's by a man named Gerald Gardner. Gardner was a student of the Golden Dawn earlier in his life, before its collapse, and blended much of what he learned there into the rituals and theories of Wicca. By his own account, while in northern England one year he was drawn during the night to the sound of drums and celebration in the woods. When he found the source of the sound deep in the forests, he was confronted by a group that called themselves "the Wica," and was told that this group constituted a "coven." It is said that he was initiated into their practices, and after recieving instruction for several weeks, the group disappeared. Gardner took the initiative and began spreading this system, into which he heavily breathed traditional hermetic practices, as "Wicca."

The actual practice of magic in Wicca revolves largely around five elements, being the traditional four with the addition of spirit, represented by the pentagram. Their "holy symbol" thereby is the pentacle, being the pentagram within a circle, usually worn as a necklace or a ring. Various divisions of Wicca also incorporate some zodiacal astrology and basic alchemy (potions and the likes) into their repetoire. The witch eventually builds up a collection of spells and recipes, commonly referred to by the Wiccan tradition as a "Book of Shadows." Some "covens," groups of practicing Wiccans, are more influenced by folk practices, whereas others are more influenced by the hermetic tradition and the writings of such magicians as Aleister Crowley.

Positives: Because of the enormous success of Wicca in the western world, there are more recently written books on it than probably any other system of magic. This makes learning Wicca very easily. Many Wiccans have published their Book of Shadows, which also makes it easy for a new student to immediately begin practicing Wiccan magic. Another major benefit is that in most major cities there is at least one coven accepting members, allowing a student to join a group and learn from various other Wiccans. Being a nature-based pagan faith, it is a nice break from the ordinary for many people, and gives them a sense of connection to nature.

Negatives: Alot of liberty has been taken with defining Wicca, and therefore a number of different sects within the tradition differ quite radically in belief and practice. Often times, a Book of Shadows will read more like a collection of superstitious folk remedies than a collection of scientific magical operations. The image of Wicca as being for middle-aged women and teenage girls also deters a number of would-be applicants of the faith.

Thelema
Thelema was founded by Aleister Crowley as a means of spreading the teachings of the Book of the Law, as well his own ideas about what magic should be. In reference to those teachings, Thelemites often refer to magic with a "k," spelling it "magick," this being Crowley's addition to make a distinction between real magic and stage magic.

Religiously, the pantheon of Thelema is Egyptian. The premise is that Osiris, the god of the last Aeon of Man, was giving way to the rising of Horus to be the god of this new "Aquarian" age of man. This "changing of the guard" is said to occur every 2,000 years or so, and is held by Thelemites as indicating a new direction for humanity. The "Law" of the new Aeon is summarized, according to Crowley, by the dictum "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, Love under Will."

Thelema is both magical and mystical. Mystically, it is seen as the sacred duty of the Thelemite to unite Nuit with Hadit, and to merge into the infinitude of Hadit, and become a god himself, a "star" of the universe. It has its own set of rituals, most of them devised by Crowley, but still based on principles he learned from his time in the Golden Dawn in his youth. Crowley is considered by Thelemites to be the Prophet of the New Aeon.

Positives: Crowley left behind an enormous collection of writings for aspirants and initiates of various levels. He also used a large Order, the O.T.O, to spread his teachings, and established the A.A., both of which are still functioning today. Many of Crowley's books can be found for free online, which makes studying easier, and a number of exercises are mystical and meditative in nature, meaning they can be easily enough practiced by most people.

Negatives: The image associated with Crowley is often negative, and on a surface level, the Book of the Law is offensive to many people's senses. As a result, Thelemites sometimes recieve criticism from the magical community as a whole.

Alchemy
The art of alchemy is sometimes practiced as part of a broader system, as it is in Rosicrucianism and Hermetic Magic, and sometimes practiced as an individual path. With used in conjunction with a larger system, alchemy is often used to support and compliment the training was is already undergoing. In "Initiation into Hermetics," for example, Franz Bardon teaches some alchemical creations to aid in meditations for the development of clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentience. When alchemy is practiced on its own, then alchemical creations are used to develop spiritual energies within the alchemist, as well as to attain magical faculties and powers.

There are a number of aspects to alchemy. Tinctures, elixirs, essences, oils, balms, and salts are employed for the accomplishment of personal, magical, mystical, and medical ends. Some alchemists specialize in homeopathic and spagyric remedies as alternative medicine, whereas other alchemists choose to focus on purely spiritual applications. Many choose to do both, and get the full use of this art. Traditionally the alchemist starts his work in the vegetable kingdom, learning how to use the alcohols, oils, and salts of various plants and herbs. When he has achieved competence in that field, the alchemist may choose to advance to mineral alchemy. This can include using mineral homeopathy, or in more advanced practice, the transmutation of metals into other metals. The fabled accomplishment of the master alchemist is the transmutation of a base metal, such as lead, into a valuable metal such as gold.

The goal of alchemy is the "Great Work," which often means a literal and allegorical creation of what is called "The Philosopher's Stone," or the "Stone of the Sages." On an allegorical level, the "Philosopher's Stone" is the perfect art of spiritual evolution, the "base metal" is the animal and worldly nature of the alchemist's self, and the transmutation of that base metal into gold becomes symbolic of the self illumination of the alchemist. On a practical level, it is thought that a master alchemist really can create a stone, or in some instances a powder, which allows him to replicate gold by projecting it upon a base metal, and causing a transformation of that metal into gold. Then gold is thought to then be purified to its highest quality by using other methods. Ironically, however, many historical alchemists have taught that only an adept purified from the desire for wealth can achieve this, and that obtaining of the Philosopher's Stone should simply be sought after as a demonstration that the alchemist has conquered nature.

Another famous product of alchemical lore is the Elixir of Immortality. This is thought to be either a red elixir or a white powder, which when taken in small quantities on certain days in certain months, causes a rejuvenatory process within the body. By its use, it is taught that the master alchemist can prolong his life indefinately. Incidentally it is taught that whoever can creat the Elixir of Immortality has the knowledge required to create the Philosopher's Stone, and vice versa.

Man's greatest fear is death, and his greatest desire is wealth. With that in mind, it becomes obvious why alchemy has always captivated the minds of men throughout all of history, since it seemingly promises a solution to both. The stories of the "staged deaths" of people such as Nicholas Flamel, Cagliostro, Francis Bacon, and Le Comte de St. Germain, and the rumors of their ongoing life for decades or centuries afterwards, have ensured that people will still be practicing alchemy far into our future.

Positives: Alchemy is comparatively easy to start, with a basic distiller being possible to make from home, and the surface of an oven sufficing to begin initial experiments. With only a little bit of practice alchemy can yield immediate results, such as noticeable increase in health and energy. Its practice and experimentation is also wide and diversified enough to promise that the student will always have "the next step" to work towards. There is also a fair amount of written information available on the subject.

Negatives: There is nothing inherently spiritual about doing alchemy, which means that spiritual and magical progress will really only be guaranteed after you have spent quite some time getting the various tinctures meant to cause that growth correct. Experiments often fail for no apparent reason, and this can cause frustration. Extensive experimentation can be quite expensive over time. Suitable ventillation is required for metallic experiments, and this can be hard for the average person to secure. While vegetable experiments are usually harmless, the more advanced mineral alchemy, which is seen as a necessary step in advancement, can be deadly depending on the minerals being worked with.




Those are a few of the more well-known systems of magic, to give you a short head start in the research. I strongly advise examining the aforementioned systems to see if any of their dynamics appeal to you on a personal level, and seem to easily compliment your intended goals.

F.A.Q: My advice in light of certain questions

Q: Which system is the easiest to learn?
A: None of them are “easy” to learn. They all require a great deal of dedication on the part of the magician, from the time the path begins, and onwards until it ceases.

Q: Which system do you think a beginner should start with?
A: Personally, I strongly advise taking up studies in the field of elementalism while a novice in the field of magic. The reasoning for this is that it will provide the aspirant some very simple, yet invaluable, magic theory, as well as get him into the habit of feeling, identifying, and ultimately working with those energies of the universe which shall be called upon time and time again by the magician in his future operations. If pursued in connection to a larger paradigm, such as Hermeticism, then elemental work can blossom into the safe and effective practice of invocation and evocation, and will give the student to accomplish essentially anything.

Q: Is magic evil?
A: I refer you to another article, "Introduction to Magic," which provides a more thorough look at what magic is as a whole. Suffice to say here that magic is simply a tool, and it is the wielder who defines whether that tool is used or abused. In general, though, you would have nothing to lose by experimenting with magic yourself, and seeing first hand if it is evil, or if it is a very positive and uplifting practice.

Q: How can you tell if a teacher or master is the real deal, or a fraud?
A: Until you develop skills such as clairvoyance and clear psychic intuition, this can be difficult. It is best to rely on experience. If you have been around that person enough, there will be clear signs that will indicate whether he is genuine or a charlatan. Until you know for sure, act with reserve and caution.

Q: Is ritualism needed?
A: Ritualism is not necessary, but its value as an aid can not be ignored by an intelligent student. No matter where you are in your progress, the application of a well thought-out ritual will likely be of some further use. In the beginning, though, it is usually recommended that the student learn basics that have nothing to do with ritual work, such as how to calm his mind, and control his thoughts.

Q: You said that elementalism is a good place to begin. That’s all good, but there are four elements. Which one should I start with?
A: You should develop a spiritual practice regime wherein you will be able to practice with all four elements an equal amount. Even if this means that Monday you practice with fire, Tuesday with air, Wednesday with water, etc, due to time constraints, that is fine. However practicing too much with a single element over the others can cause imbalances in one's character, and in the lower spiritual bodies. This is called an Elemental Imbalance. An initiate should seek Elemental Equilibrium instead by working with all four elements.


Q: Do I have an element that I’m associated with?
A: No. A common misconception amongst the uninitiated is that each person has a particular element which they are most related to. The reasoning for this exists within the realm of psychoanalytics, not elemental association. You do not possess within you more of the air element than someone else, etc. However, it shall perhaps be worthy to note here that many people have a particular element which they find easiest to work with, and which resonates nicely with them. The reasoning for this is, as mentioned, not etheric, but intellectual. If your traits correspond with the intellectual manifestations of water, then you may find it easier to work with water. You are the cause of this, not the element.

Such aspects of the personality will cause certain elements within you to manifest more visibly. This will give the appearance that you have too much of a particular element, and some occultists and teachers will even refer to a person as having "too much fire" or the likes. This is more a matter of convenient phrasing, however, since technically such a person would have just as much fire as anyone else. It is simply that the personality expresses that element more dramatically.

Q: I’m an otherkin! Shouldn’t I be naturally more inclined towards a specific element?
A: Herein exists another large misconception amongst particularly the young audience which graces the OEC(Online Energy Community). The physical vessel, which is called the human body, and furthermore the etheric vessel were created to compliment one another, and exist in both form and characteristics in a way that causes a parallel between the physical self and the etheric double. Basically what that means is that the human body is designed for the human soul, and vice versa. Likewise, any disruption in this natural order causes an inability to manifest. In other words(once again speaking in lay-man’s terms), if the pieces of the puzzle don’t fit(the soul and the body), you have no puzzle(the existence of an individual human). I tell you, unless the earth, the sky, the fires or the waters of this world made you themselves, with no woman as a medium for birth, you are a human. Nothing less, and most certainly nothing more.

Q: Should I tell my parents?
A: This is a common question, since much of the online community is young. The answer depends on your parents. If you have a very catholic family, for example, it may not be a good idea. If your mother or father studies anything occult, then of course. However, I will say this much: Eventually, your parents will find out. Are you going to let them do it by sneaking around your room and looking through your computer files, or are you going to come out and tell them, and therein sustain a level of suspect later on down the road? Somewhere down the line, you’ll have to come out of the closet. When that happens is up to you. You may be pleasantly surprised, even, and learn that your parents do not care about it as much as you thought they would.

Q: If I’m not going to do any ceremonial magic, should I still read the esoteric texts, such as the works of Solomon?
A: In my personal opinion, yes. I’ve read almost every esoteric text that is accessible to the public, and some which still aren’t. There have been many great minds in occultism before this modern time. Why should you not benefit from them?

Q: How long before I will start seeing real progress?
A: This depends on the goals of that system, as well as the intensity of your own dedication to it. There is not set or guaranteed timeline that works for everyone. Some students, for reasons usually to be found in previous incarnations, will advance very quickly with comparatively little work. Others will advance slowly with lots of work. Most advance normally with good dedication. Likewise if you are practicing a system which involves less tangible phenomenon at first, such as a path more mystically inclined, then you will need to search out the positive changes you are seeing in your life, as these are harder to see sometimes. As a general idea, though, most students have experienced real progress within three months.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:06 am
by msrb999
Frater_NT wrote:Welcome,
You have some different options for different kinds of magic. Here's a short list:

Ceremonial magic - You have the Golden Dawn, Thelema, Franz Bardon, etc. Here you have tons of rituals that are full of symbolism from the qabalah. There is some magic to change the world around you, but a vast majority of it is aimed at spiritual evolution. Worth checking out if you want to focus less on materialism and more on personal growth.

Witchcraft - This term has become tricky over the years. Some people equate witchcraft as the same thing as wicca (a religion), while others think that witchcraft is entirely a craft. So, keep in mind that for everyone the word witchcraft means different things. You have different choices here as well. Wicca is the most popular form today (or should I say did the best job marketing itself?).Like I said, this is a religion so check it out to see if it's what you believe. It might fir you or it might not. There are also forms of traditional witchcraft. Some people view traditional witchcraft as a religion while others don't. There are many forms of trad craft so you'll have to do some digging on it. Honestly, there are trad craft books on amazon and the material itself is very close to what you would find in wicca minus all the new agey stuff and silly 3-fold laws [rolleyes] There are also reconstruction groups out there. As the name implies, these people take the available information from anthropologists and archeologists and try to recreate old pre-christian religions.

Chaos magic - Chaos can be very confusing due to its lack of rules and structure. It's hard to even call it a system especially since the person doing the magic can use anything that works. The chaote (chaos magician) uses the latest understanding of psychology and Neuro-linguistic programming to cause change in the world. Sigils and servitors are popular methods of chaos magic.
Thank you for giving me the information. It is a great help. It seems without realizing i have done some chaos magic in the past.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:45 am
by msrb999
Frumens wrote:This is a copy past from another forum. This article was written from the perspective of a ceremonial magician, so it might have a bias.

Chaos magic was founded by A.O Spare, a magician in the earlier part of the 20th century, and revolves around two things: Chaos theory, and the use of any religion or belief required for the successful casting of a spell. The former is simply a theory which states that all things exist as chaos before they are organized into a state of completion. So, essentially, it is viewed(for example) that before the universe was created, all that existed was the state of being known as chaos. It is only because chaos exists that it can be organized, and therein the source of all organized existence is the chaos which existed before.

In the latter component of chaos magic, the idea is that the magician should not be restricted to any one religious belief, and therein be bound to a specific set of spells within that belief system. It is held among chaos magicians that the magician should avail himself of any religious beliefs required for the successful casting of a desired spell. So if for the successful casting of one spell you need to be Jewish, and adhere to their hierarchies and pantheon, then you shall do so, dropping that belief after the spell has been cast. If the spell requires the worship of an Egyptian deity, then the magician shall adhere to the Egyptian pantheon for the entirety of the operation, and believe in it for as long as the spell requires.

The most popular aspects of Chaos magic are sigilization and servitore creation, which are essentially the catalyzing of the magicians thoughts into some type of form, be it a symbol or a type of entity thought-form. Its contribution to modern magic has been a large part of magic theory.

Chaos Magic has very few ethical or spiritual overtones in most instances. Various pioneers of the system have even suggested that the "Chaote" should go out of his way to be hedenistic in some ways, and disregard moral concepts as products of religious dogma. Towards that ends it is sometimes called Discordian or Luciferian, with a heavy emphasis on personal liberties.

Positives: Chaos Magic is a very liberating experience for many people, and offers a certain fresh breath of air morally and ethically that many people today yearn for. It is in some ways especially appealing to youths who grew up in households where an established religion was forced upon them, since it allows them to stretch their legs, so to say. If you are looking for a no-strings-attached approach to causing natural phenomenon and controlling your inherent abilities, Chaos Magic may be worth a look.

Negatives: Because of its more libertine type, it attracts alot of "rebellious youth" which often makes it difficult to take the system and its representatives seriously. It is also, incidentally, quite "chaotic." Many of its teachers disagree on sometimes very pivotal issues, there are few universally practiced techniques, and other such things, which makes it hard to make a brotherhood out of it. The speed with which control over basic natural phenomenon comes to the successful Chaote often exagerates the ego as well, and makes him think he is a teacher before he is ready, causing a number of pseudo-teachers within the Chaos Magic community. Chaos Magic is also a very new system of magic, and therefore has not produced a number of model magicians to examine, in order to grade the efficiency of the system as a whole.

Qabalah
The Qabalah is an ancient mystery school within the Jewish religion. It first began to become popular in western magic in the early 1600's with the emergence of some Rosicrucian fraternities who taught religious symbolism of the Judeo-Christian paradigm. Simultaneously a number of so-called Qaballistic "grimoires" surfaced, which claimed to use Qaballistic symbolism for its magic. It was taught intermittently in Masonic and branched Rosicrucian organizations until the late 1800's, when the Golden Dawn brought it together as a valid system for categorization, proposed its use as a general tool of classification for the magician, and subsequently made it famous in the field of magic.

The Qabalah has speculative, theoretical, mathematical, practical, and mystical meanings and applications. On a basic level, the corpus of Qaballistic wisdom was originally compiled as the means of interpreting the Old Testament of the Bible, the Tanakh, and understanding such sacred texts as the Talmud and Mishnah. In that light the Old Testament was held to be highly symbolic, and to contain amongst other things teachings on doctrines such as the creation of the universe, death and reincarnation, and magic. It was thought that the Tanakh was compiled divinely by master adepts, and that the most sublime teachings were codified within it for those who knew how to look. The Qabalah was the method of searching for those secret teachings.

Within Qaballistic circles of initiation, which there are now few legitimate groups for, there are entire sets of magical and mystical practices. The Qaballist avails himself of the Ma'aseh Merkava, the Celestial Chariot thought to immortalize and deify the self, and bring the soul of the Qabalist to sit at the right hand of God. This is accomplished by following "the way of return," a secret system of rituals, spiritual adherences, and meditations meant to gradually illuminate the soul. Though there are teachings involving the control of the outer world, such as the use of symbolism and of various Divine Names, the bulk of the teachings are transcendental. None the less such fantastic accomplishments as the prophetic golem of Albertus Magnus and the homonculus of Abbot Trithemius are attributed to a knowledge of the Qabalah.

Positives: There are many rich texts and rabbinical writings on the Qabalah, both magically and mystically inclined. Over at least two thousand years the system has been refined to a complete unit, and it has produced quite a number of saints and adepts about whom stories abound. For those who are drawn to long hours of study, there is enough provided in the Qabalah and in the interpretation of the Tanakh to busy a dedicated person for the rest of his life. There is also the western take, called the "Rosicrucian Qabalah," which provides definite templates for the use of Qaballistic knowledge for magical purposes of lower and higher natures.

Negatives: Since the open publication of the Qaballistic system of categorization called the Tree of Life in the early 20th century, it has been subject to a good bit of butchering from various so-called authorities. The actual bulk of the Qabalah, which has little to do with the Tree of Life, has become more or less ignored. This can make it difficult to find someone who actually knows what they are talking about. Another difficulty is the problem presented of trying to become accepted by a rabbinical Qabalistic adept, with an established initiatory line. Such rabbi are often racist, and are hard pressed to teach anyone but a sworn Jew of Jewish birth. Unfortunately it is in such air-tight lineages that many of the greater secrets of the Qabalah are concealed.


Hermetics
Today, the Qabalah is considered part and parcel of Hermetic Magic. In truth the Hermetic Sciences have been around for centuries, and likely predate the Qabalah by a healthy two or three thousand years. In a way the Qabalah evolved from the Hermetic tradition of Egypt, which the Qabalah is largely a translation of. The science is named in honor of its semi-mythological founder, Hermes Trismegistus, the great magus who so powerfully impacted the spiritual teachings of Egypt and Greece.

Hermeticism revolves around heavy moralistic and transcendental ideas. The hermetic magician rejects the physical world as an illusion of ideas, a play of lights against a backdrop. He is seen as living in a world of ignorance, on a ladder of such worlds where each new level is progressively closer to Truth. "Truth" is seen as the First Cause, the silent, eternal, self-begotten beginning of all things that is considered the highest God, and often called "The Good." The magician seeks union, or "Henosis," with that Supreme God. This is achieved by proper living, the observance of spiritual principles and laws, meditation, and ritual magic. Very little emphasis is put on magically influencing external phenomenon, though it is taught that such powers automatically develop for the hermetic magician over time, as a result of his ascent towards divinity.

The Invocation of God-Forces and the Evocation of Spirits are central practices of the Hermetic Science, which undertakes "The Great Work" of purifying and deifying the self. Control over the four elements, which are seen as the most immediate stepping stones to climb out of the influence of this world, forms a bulk of the initial training in this system, according to such Hermeticists as Agrippa and Bardon. Practices such as Alchemy and Astrology also play central roles in the progression of the system, and the creation of the fabled "Philosopher's Stone" is ascribed to this path.

Positives: A morally strong system focused on purification and evolution, it perfectly fits those students who are more mystically inclined, and want to focus on advancing themselves in a transcendental direction. Many of the most famous magicians of the past 2,600 years have been Hermetic Magicians, including such towering figures as Pythagoras, Hermes Trismegistus, Apollonius of Tyana, Iamblichus, Agrippa, Paracelsus, Francis Bacon, Benjamin Franklin, Le Comte St. Germain, Aleister Crowley, and Franz Bardon. This results in there being a huge body of text available for study, and plenty of examples for motivation and inspiration. There are also a number of Magic Orders, which serve as colleges for magical training within the Hermetic paradigm, all over the world. This means that every hermetic student will have a place to go to learn.

Negatives: Hermeticism is morally strict, and has a tendency to develop into dogmatism, especially in second and third-generation schools. Likewise though much has been written about its philosophies, there has been comparatively little written about its practices. What little has been written is often very ritualistic, which makes its practice difficult for those who have never had a teacher, or for those who have trouble securing privacy and enough space. Because of its age, there are also many "splinters" of the tradition, which can make it difficult to decide on a good Order or Teacher to begin the path with.


The Northern Path
What has been labled "The Northern Path," for lack of a better term, is the pursuit of magic and mysticism through the tools and symbols of Scandinavian mythology and its initiates. In many ways this winds up revolving around a knowledge of the runes and their uses for magic and for divination. However the true initiate of this path must also be familiar with the symbolic meaning of the travels of Odin, with the initiatic symbolism represented by Baldur, and with the proper means of invoking the Gods of Asgard.

Today, the principle use of this path involves Runemal, the application of the 24 runes for divinatory purposes. The Gothi ("priest") will case the 24 runes in any of a number of ways, and according to the tradition he has learned, will interpret them in a manner similar to the I-Ching, the casting of lots, or the Tarot. Another common practice is that of making Bind Runes, which is an ancient practice of combining the runes into symbols appropriate for the task at hand. This serves as a sort of sigil creation method for the Gothi, and is used specifically to accomplish some kind of magical effect.

Another part of Scandinavian Magic is the use of the Gladr Charms, which are a series of charms which bring about specific effects, and of which Odin speaks in the Havamal, a poetic recording of the Allfather’s words to men. They essentially contain a combination of bind runes which will best bring about the desired effect. The proper enaction of the Galdr charms requires that one be in turn with the runes via the Oral Galdr Incantation and Vibrations.

Positives: There is a rich and interesting mythology intimately connected to this system of magic, which allows the student to immerse himself in lore. The runes themselves are provably very powerful magic talismans, and with consistent use natural magic can be easily worked with bindrunes and the galdr. They also provide for a very easy but accurate system of divination which has become increasingly popular over the last forty years. I personally often use the runes for a "morning casting," a quick and easy divinatory casting to get a basic glimpse of what the day will likely hold, though I often only do such on days of importance.

Negatives: There is a massive circle of misinformation in the area of runic magic, largely due to a New-Age inspired, heavily Wiccan-like earth based religion called Asatruism. Family lines of Scandinavian Magic have openly spoken against the inaccuracies of the magical practices taught by these Asatru groups, but little real headway has been made. Unfortunately, most books available on the use of the runes come from this movement. There is also extremely little written record of the traditional teachings and practices of runic magic, and by the time what few ancient texts we have today were finally written down they had been influenced by the migration of Christianity into the area. This makes a genuine pursuit of this system nearly impossible today.



Talismanic Magic
Also called Enchantment, talismanic magic is the “blessing,” or enchanting of an item to magical ends. The operation of the enchantment may involve the vibration of divine names, the inscribing of words in magical alphabets and languages, the charging of sigils and power words upon the item, the simple infusion of energy and will, or many other approaches to the same ends, each with effectiveness which vary only with the magician’s personal preferences and attitude.

However, Talismanic magic extends as the system of enchantment to more than simply inanimate objects. The skilled enchanter can cast what is often called a bewitchment upon a desired person, bringing love, bad luck, good luck, etc, upon that person. In this way, the dynamics learned in enchanting can be easily applied to regular magical operations.

Most commonly, talismanic magic is used to create things such as protection amulets, to guard houses and people from attack by both entites and the malicious wills of other people.

Positives: Usually taught in easy and straight-forward manners. A number of occult authors over the centuries have published encyclopedic collections of talismanic knowledge. Though recognized as a system of magic within itself by some groups today, it was traditionally a part of many larger magical systems.

Negatives: Fairly restrictive, in that one consistently needs something to carry the energy in. However, the enchanter will gradually develop the power to manipulate energies more directly. It also requires a considerable amount of study to become an accomplished enchanter, since one needs a vast understanding of the interrelations of complex sets of symbolism.

Elementalism
The backbone of beginning magic, in my opinion. Elementalism is the use of those energies which are associated to the four elements as recognized by Plato, which are earth, fire, air, and water. A full and very complete look at the ins and outs of elemental magic is provided in my "Treatise on Elemental Magic," available here on Veritas. Suffice to say here that it has long been held by many genuine magical traditions that the elements are the basic building blocks of our world, and that their mastery is the first step to liberation from the sorrows and sufferings of this world.

Elementalism entails not only the use of all those elements on a celestial, intellectual and manifest level, but also the conjuring of those spirits which are called “elementals,” and the use of them in order to enact magical operations.

Positives: Unlike a majority of magical traditions, the practice of elemental magic for both natural magic phenomenon and spiritual evolution has been clearly outlined in a published work called "Initiation into Hermetics," written by Franz Bardon. This has given a sort of frame of reference for practical elemental work on an effective scale.

Negatives: Franz Bardon's works are really the only straight-forward authoritative books available for the practice of elemental magic. Many works, like Agrippa's, are cryptic and hard to transfer into practice, whereas those of people such as Paracelsus are largely alchemical in application.


Shamanism
Shamanism is best known as the old Indian methodology of magic, in which each tribe had a “witchdoctor,” or “medicine man” of sorts. This tribal leader was in charge of all religious rituals, making sure the tribe stayed in good favor of the gods, dealing with any diseases within the village, protecting it from outsiders and evil spirits alike.

As great as that all is, a complete system of divination, healing and summoning within itself, most modern magicians only worry themselves with the shamanic methods of certain meditations, in which the magician will learn how to induce a state of trance, other important states of altered mindsets, as well as induce “shamanic adventures,” in which the mind is set free, residing in some place within the depths of the soul in meditation. The difference between this and basic visualization of being in, lets say, a windy field, is that in shamanic meditation, you can actually feel the wind, hear the surrounding wildlife, and smell the grass.

"Shamanism," however, applies to a rather wide array of spiritual practices, and not just a particular path. The Shamanism of the Native Americans for example, which is most popular in the United States, and which has many similarities to Amazonian Shamanism in South America, is quite different from the Samian Shamanism of northern Europe. Other "Shamanic" practices such as those of the Kahunas of Hawaii, are quite similar to the tantric practices of yogis in northern India. Some are more concerned with phenomenon, whereas others are more focused on spiritual evolution. Thorough investigation will bring to light which system of Shamanism is suited for you.

Positives: Regardless of where on the globe it is, a defining characteristic of Shamanism is often that it is practiced by cultural tribes that were comparatively technologically unadvanced for most of history. The result is that it is usually intense natural, and connects its students intimately with the energies of the Earth, and of the nature spirits. This is largely the reason for its boom in popularity amongst the New Age movement, since as the world becomes more technologically advanced, many people seek relaxation in nature. In a full Shamanic tradition, should one be fortunate enough to have access to such a lineage, it is usually a highly diverse and practical system which will develop many magical skills across multiple levels.

Negatives: The embrace of Shamanism by the New Age Movement has caused a flow of misinformation regarding the actual nature and practices of the tradition. So-called "authorities" on the subject are often only people who went to a village and studied the shamans for a handful of years, and not fully initiated masters from a direct lineage themselves. Because of the nature of the tradition, many Master Shamans are not able to write, or have no access to publishers and the likes, or simply have no interest at all in the modern world. Thus very few real authorities have written good sourcebooks for the practice of Shamanism. Instead, self-proclaimed shamans, usually Americans, make up techniques and publish them as being Shamanic practices.

Wicca
Though it has slowed down some in this last decade, Wicca is still likely the largest portion of the New Age Movement. It is a nature-based pagan religion, as well as a magical tradition, since much of the religious worship is magical and ritualistic in nature. The common nomenclature of "spells" and "hexes" is due largely to Wicca and its offshoots, and the system has essentially taken over the title "witch," a witch now being largely considered a Wiccan. The common use of the pentagram and the appearance of "wands" and the likes as hobby shops and New Age stores is the direct cause of the success of Wicca in the west.

Wicca was founded in the 1950's by a man named Gerald Gardner. Gardner was a student of the Golden Dawn earlier in his life, before its collapse, and blended much of what he learned there into the rituals and theories of Wicca. By his own account, while in northern England one year he was drawn during the night to the sound of drums and celebration in the woods. When he found the source of the sound deep in the forests, he was confronted by a group that called themselves "the Wica," and was told that this group constituted a "coven." It is said that he was initiated into their practices, and after recieving instruction for several weeks, the group disappeared. Gardner took the initiative and began spreading this system, into which he heavily breathed traditional hermetic practices, as "Wicca."

The actual practice of magic in Wicca revolves largely around five elements, being the traditional four with the addition of spirit, represented by the pentagram. Their "holy symbol" thereby is the pentacle, being the pentagram within a circle, usually worn as a necklace or a ring. Various divisions of Wicca also incorporate some zodiacal astrology and basic alchemy (potions and the likes) into their repetoire. The witch eventually builds up a collection of spells and recipes, commonly referred to by the Wiccan tradition as a "Book of Shadows." Some "covens," groups of practicing Wiccans, are more influenced by folk practices, whereas others are more influenced by the hermetic tradition and the writings of such magicians as Aleister Crowley.

Positives: Because of the enormous success of Wicca in the western world, there are more recently written books on it than probably any other system of magic. This makes learning Wicca very easily. Many Wiccans have published their Book of Shadows, which also makes it easy for a new student to immediately begin practicing Wiccan magic. Another major benefit is that in most major cities there is at least one coven accepting members, allowing a student to join a group and learn from various other Wiccans. Being a nature-based pagan faith, it is a nice break from the ordinary for many people, and gives them a sense of connection to nature.

Negatives: Alot of liberty has been taken with defining Wicca, and therefore a number of different sects within the tradition differ quite radically in belief and practice. Often times, a Book of Shadows will read more like a collection of superstitious folk remedies than a collection of scientific magical operations. The image of Wicca as being for middle-aged women and teenage girls also deters a number of would-be applicants of the faith.

Thelema
Thelema was founded by Aleister Crowley as a means of spreading the teachings of the Book of the Law, as well his own ideas about what magic should be. In reference to those teachings, Thelemites often refer to magic with a "k," spelling it "magick," this being Crowley's addition to make a distinction between real magic and stage magic.

Religiously, the pantheon of Thelema is Egyptian. The premise is that Osiris, the god of the last Aeon of Man, was giving way to the rising of Horus to be the god of this new "Aquarian" age of man. This "changing of the guard" is said to occur every 2,000 years or so, and is held by Thelemites as indicating a new direction for humanity. The "Law" of the new Aeon is summarized, according to Crowley, by the dictum "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, Love under Will."

Thelema is both magical and mystical. Mystically, it is seen as the sacred duty of the Thelemite to unite Nuit with Hadit, and to merge into the infinitude of Hadit, and become a god himself, a "star" of the universe. It has its own set of rituals, most of them devised by Crowley, but still based on principles he learned from his time in the Golden Dawn in his youth. Crowley is considered by Thelemites to be the Prophet of the New Aeon.

Positives: Crowley left behind an enormous collection of writings for aspirants and initiates of various levels. He also used a large Order, the O.T.O, to spread his teachings, and established the A.A., both of which are still functioning today. Many of Crowley's books can be found for free online, which makes studying easier, and a number of exercises are mystical and meditative in nature, meaning they can be easily enough practiced by most people.

Negatives: The image associated with Crowley is often negative, and on a surface level, the Book of the Law is offensive to many people's senses. As a result, Thelemites sometimes recieve criticism from the magical community as a whole.

Alchemy
The art of alchemy is sometimes practiced as part of a broader system, as it is in Rosicrucianism and Hermetic Magic, and sometimes practiced as an individual path. With used in conjunction with a larger system, alchemy is often used to support and compliment the training was is already undergoing. In "Initiation into Hermetics," for example, Franz Bardon teaches some alchemical creations to aid in meditations for the development of clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentience. When alchemy is practiced on its own, then alchemical creations are used to develop spiritual energies within the alchemist, as well as to attain magical faculties and powers.

There are a number of aspects to alchemy. Tinctures, elixirs, essences, oils, balms, and salts are employed for the accomplishment of personal, magical, mystical, and medical ends. Some alchemists specialize in homeopathic and spagyric remedies as alternative medicine, whereas other alchemists choose to focus on purely spiritual applications. Many choose to do both, and get the full use of this art. Traditionally the alchemist starts his work in the vegetable kingdom, learning how to use the alcohols, oils, and salts of various plants and herbs. When he has achieved competence in that field, the alchemist may choose to advance to mineral alchemy. This can include using mineral homeopathy, or in more advanced practice, the transmutation of metals into other metals. The fabled accomplishment of the master alchemist is the transmutation of a base metal, such as lead, into a valuable metal such as gold.

The goal of alchemy is the "Great Work," which often means a literal and allegorical creation of what is called "The Philosopher's Stone," or the "Stone of the Sages." On an allegorical level, the "Philosopher's Stone" is the perfect art of spiritual evolution, the "base metal" is the animal and worldly nature of the alchemist's self, and the transmutation of that base metal into gold becomes symbolic of the self illumination of the alchemist. On a practical level, it is thought that a master alchemist really can create a stone, or in some instances a powder, which allows him to replicate gold by projecting it upon a base metal, and causing a transformation of that metal into gold. Then gold is thought to then be purified to its highest quality by using other methods. Ironically, however, many historical alchemists have taught that only an adept purified from the desire for wealth can achieve this, and that obtaining of the Philosopher's Stone should simply be sought after as a demonstration that the alchemist has conquered nature.

Another famous product of alchemical lore is the Elixir of Immortality. This is thought to be either a red elixir or a white powder, which when taken in small quantities on certain days in certain months, causes a rejuvenatory process within the body. By its use, it is taught that the master alchemist can prolong his life indefinately. Incidentally it is taught that whoever can creat the Elixir of Immortality has the knowledge required to create the Philosopher's Stone, and vice versa.

Man's greatest fear is death, and his greatest desire is wealth. With that in mind, it becomes obvious why alchemy has always captivated the minds of men throughout all of history, since it seemingly promises a solution to both. The stories of the "staged deaths" of people such as Nicholas Flamel, Cagliostro, Francis Bacon, and Le Comte de St. Germain, and the rumors of their ongoing life for decades or centuries afterwards, have ensured that people will still be practicing alchemy far into our future.

Positives: Alchemy is comparatively easy to start, with a basic distiller being possible to make from home, and the surface of an oven sufficing to begin initial experiments. With only a little bit of practice alchemy can yield immediate results, such as noticeable increase in health and energy. Its practice and experimentation is also wide and diversified enough to promise that the student will always have "the next step" to work towards. There is also a fair amount of written information available on the subject.

Negatives: There is nothing inherently spiritual about doing alchemy, which means that spiritual and magical progress will really only be guaranteed after you have spent quite some time getting the various tinctures meant to cause that growth correct. Experiments often fail for no apparent reason, and this can cause frustration. Extensive experimentation can be quite expensive over time. Suitable ventillation is required for metallic experiments, and this can be hard for the average person to secure. While vegetable experiments are usually harmless, the more advanced mineral alchemy, which is seen as a necessary step in advancement, can be deadly depending on the minerals being worked with.




Those are a few of the more well-known systems of magic, to give you a short head start in the research. I strongly advise examining the aforementioned systems to see if any of their dynamics appeal to you on a personal level, and seem to easily compliment your intended goals.

F.A.Q: My advice in light of certain questions

Q: Which system is the easiest to learn?
A: None of them are “easy” to learn. They all require a great deal of dedication on the part of the magician, from the time the path begins, and onwards until it ceases.

Q: Which system do you think a beginner should start with?
A: Personally, I strongly advise taking up studies in the field of elementalism while a novice in the field of magic. The reasoning for this is that it will provide the aspirant some very simple, yet invaluable, magic theory, as well as get him into the habit of feeling, identifying, and ultimately working with those energies of the universe which shall be called upon time and time again by the magician in his future operations. If pursued in connection to a larger paradigm, such as Hermeticism, then elemental work can blossom into the safe and effective practice of invocation and evocation, and will give the student to accomplish essentially anything.

Q: Is magic evil?
A: I refer you to another article, "Introduction to Magic," which provides a more thorough look at what magic is as a whole. Suffice to say here that magic is simply a tool, and it is the wielder who defines whether that tool is used or abused. In general, though, you would have nothing to lose by experimenting with magic yourself, and seeing first hand if it is evil, or if it is a very positive and uplifting practice.

Q: How can you tell if a teacher or master is the real deal, or a fraud?
A: Until you develop skills such as clairvoyance and clear psychic intuition, this can be difficult. It is best to rely on experience. If you have been around that person enough, there will be clear signs that will indicate whether he is genuine or a charlatan. Until you know for sure, act with reserve and caution.

Q: Is ritualism needed?
A: Ritualism is not necessary, but its value as an aid can not be ignored by an intelligent student. No matter where you are in your progress, the application of a well thought-out ritual will likely be of some further use. In the beginning, though, it is usually recommended that the student learn basics that have nothing to do with ritual work, such as how to calm his mind, and control his thoughts.

Q: You said that elementalism is a good place to begin. That’s all good, but there are four elements. Which one should I start with?
A: You should develop a spiritual practice regime wherein you will be able to practice with all four elements an equal amount. Even if this means that Monday you practice with fire, Tuesday with air, Wednesday with water, etc, due to time constraints, that is fine. However practicing too much with a single element over the others can cause imbalances in one's character, and in the lower spiritual bodies. This is called an Elemental Imbalance. An initiate should seek Elemental Equilibrium instead by working with all four elements.


Q: Do I have an element that I’m associated with?
A: No. A common misconception amongst the uninitiated is that each person has a particular element which they are most related to. The reasoning for this exists within the realm of psychoanalytics, not elemental association. You do not possess within you more of the air element than someone else, etc. However, it shall perhaps be worthy to note here that many people have a particular element which they find easiest to work with, and which resonates nicely with them. The reasoning for this is, as mentioned, not etheric, but intellectual. If your traits correspond with the intellectual manifestations of water, then you may find it easier to work with water. You are the cause of this, not the element.

Such aspects of the personality will cause certain elements within you to manifest more visibly. This will give the appearance that you have too much of a particular element, and some occultists and teachers will even refer to a person as having "too much fire" or the likes. This is more a matter of convenient phrasing, however, since technically such a person would have just as much fire as anyone else. It is simply that the personality expresses that element more dramatically.

Q: I’m an otherkin! Shouldn’t I be naturally more inclined towards a specific element?
A: Herein exists another large misconception amongst particularly the young audience which graces the OEC(Online Energy Community). The physical vessel, which is called the human body, and furthermore the etheric vessel were created to compliment one another, and exist in both form and characteristics in a way that causes a parallel between the physical self and the etheric double. Basically what that means is that the human body is designed for the human soul, and vice versa. Likewise, any disruption in this natural order causes an inability to manifest. In other words(once again speaking in lay-man’s terms), if the pieces of the puzzle don’t fit(the soul and the body), you have no puzzle(the existence of an individual human). I tell you, unless the earth, the sky, the fires or the waters of this world made you themselves, with no woman as a medium for birth, you are a human. Nothing less, and most certainly nothing more.

Q: Should I tell my parents?
A: This is a common question, since much of the online community is young. The answer depends on your parents. If you have a very catholic family, for example, it may not be a good idea. If your mother or father studies anything occult, then of course. However, I will say this much: Eventually, your parents will find out. Are you going to let them do it by sneaking around your room and looking through your computer files, or are you going to come out and tell them, and therein sustain a level of suspect later on down the road? Somewhere down the line, you’ll have to come out of the closet. When that happens is up to you. You may be pleasantly surprised, even, and learn that your parents do not care about it as much as you thought they would.

Q: If I’m not going to do any ceremonial magic, should I still read the esoteric texts, such as the works of Solomon?
A: In my personal opinion, yes. I’ve read almost every esoteric text that is accessible to the public, and some which still aren’t. There have been many great minds in occultism before this modern time. Why should you not benefit from them?

Q: How long before I will start seeing real progress?
A: This depends on the goals of that system, as well as the intensity of your own dedication to it. There is not set or guaranteed timeline that works for everyone. Some students, for reasons usually to be found in previous incarnations, will advance very quickly with comparatively little work. Others will advance slowly with lots of work. Most advance normally with good dedication. Likewise if you are practicing a system which involves less tangible phenomenon at first, such as a path more mystically inclined, then you will need to search out the positive changes you are seeing in your life, as these are harder to see sometimes. As a general idea, though, most students have experienced real progress within three months.
Thank you for giving me a brief description about different schools of magic. I have been practicing for more than 15years without knowing or following any particular schools of magic. As a result, over the long 15 years my power increased tremendously but i lack control over my power. My magic is dangerous and hard to control. If i want to lightly punish someone there are only two possible outcome either it won't work or it will severely punish someone. Furthermore, i can't use my magic for any personal gain. But, on rare occasions i can do some life changing magic on myself. I find it easy to do harm with my power but its hard for me to do healing and good. On rare occasion i can give people boon but if i give someone boon they will move away from me and become successful at expenses of the people surrounding them.

On the other hand i am almost immune to others magic. I can manipulate or change others magic. 15 years ago i barely have any magic but now i can feel magic flowing inside me. When i started practicing i couldn't even move a cloud, but now whenever i feel like it sky becomes cloudy ( It depends on the weather condition, if there are clouds nearby it happens quickly or it may take few hours to days).

That's my short story. I joined this forum because there are many experienced people here who can advise me to control my power. I don't need the to increase my power but i need to control it.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:02 am
by Frater_NT
msrb999 wrote:Furthermore, i can't use my magic for any personal gain...
umm, why the hell not? Let's be realistic here, all magic is for personal gain. You do this or that ritual/spell for more money, to find love/sex, to get back at someone who crossed you the wrong way. Are you seriously trying to tell me you'll only do magic so other people get the better stuff in life? Seems like a waste to me.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:08 am
by entropic
One could say that helping for example friends, co-workers and family is for personal gain, since it is very likely to affect you in a good way if things go well for those around you. Also helping others is something we do for ourselves too, maybe more than we want to admit.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:08 pm
by msrb999
Frater_NT wrote:
msrb999 wrote:Furthermore, i can't use my magic for any personal gain...
umm, why the hell not? Let's be realistic here, all magic is for personal gain. You do this or that ritual/spell for more money, to find love/sex, to get back at someone who crossed you the wrong way. Are you seriously trying to tell me you'll only do magic so other people get the better stuff in life? Seems like a waste to me.
I don't use spells or rituals, i use my power through my mind and imagination. You got me wrong, my power mostly do bad staff to people. Even when i try to do good for someone the others near them will get hurt.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:25 pm
by msrb999
entropic wrote:One could say that helping for example friends, co-workers and family is for personal gain, since it is very likely to affect you in a good way if things go well for those around you. Also helping others is something we do for ourselves too, maybe more than we want to admit.
I normally help my family with my power but it takes time.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:14 pm
by FatLip
msrb999 wrote:
Frumens wrote:This is a copy past from another forum. This article was written from the perspective of a ceremonial magician, so it might have a bias. er to grade the efficiency of the system as a whole.

Qabalah
Negatives: Another difficulty is the problem presented of trying to become accepted by a rabbinical Qabalistic adept, with an established initiatory line. Such rabbi are often racist, and are hard pressed to teach anyone but a sworn Jew of Jewish birth. Unfortunately it is in such air-tight lineages that many of the greater secrets of the Qabalah are concealed.
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Shalom/peace,

Your post was very helpful and the reason i decided to join this forum, kudos there,

i was raised Christian but later went to convert into Judaism and found out i was Jewish because of my mother never had a beit din to leave the covenant.
I grew up around people into music and occult but never practiced it, the views of judaism before and after my returning are NIGHT and DAY. [shock2]

Most important thing i learned was that anyone can be Jewish, the status is based on if your mother is Jewish or you simply converted, you can convert yourself, depending on the beit din (jewish court made up of a minyan) the amount of knowledge with Judaism can range from knowing very little or simply attending for more then a year at a shull, males get circumcised while both males and females dip in a mikvah (bath), so its a covenant.-- not a race.

I agree that some Rabbis are biased about the Kaballah, i know a few in Sefed Israel, the capitol of Kaballah, i never went to their yashuvas but like you i had the same impression about these rules like one has to be over 4 etc or people sharing bad experiences they had with the dark forces while meditating- Kaballah, Traditionally the Kaballah is just a tool to gain a deeper understanding of the Torah, the tradition is alike the Macabes, the more pure and just you are the more closer to G-d you are and have those powers, Magic is a name for those who are working with the natural forces with OUT the permission of G-d or earning these steps to obtain the privileges., it is said that one wise, pious just righteous man can kill a few just looking at them.

while growing up as a christian i used to look at the bible from a esoteric view, later i questioned if Jesus existed or was it just another genocide again, regardless the reason i am sharing this with you is because i learned that Shabbat meant Saturday in hebrew, that its a eternal law, a day G-d sanctified to rest with his people so generations will know its not SUNDAY (Mithra) or FRIDAY (Islam) etc, instead of finishing the physical forms of other species with free will on the 7th day G-d decided to BANISH them on the 6th day and because they have the capacity to worship G-d and some do and live thousands of years before dying G-d spared them as testers upon man kind because they pleaded to G-d that man is more evil and less worthy to worship him, Shadai., so Shabbat is a to only a ETERNAL law and commandment for amm mankind (means adam in hebrew) but its a day to remember our G-d, of man kind., so magic suddenly became a word to describe those who worked with natural forces to influence what they desired whether the forces came from a element or a bieng from the unseen either way its doing it with OUT g-ds permission, Moses did not do magic but use things for ceremonial purposes to do what G-d gave him permission to.

before this i heard of scary stories about necromancy, demons, jinns-genies, possession and i always pondered why they existed or not at all.
But since i studied judaism and observed some i learned that in the far east even Buddhist use necromancy and have knowledge about demonology and angels., even today you can find websites with balmes, amulets etc made by guru monks who used necromancy and they even have annual rituals to remove the demons/spirits etc from client's bodies and start a whole new year again, Arabs use wazee and jinns,they have the names of their jinns which correspond to the names of those given to Hagar by Abraham before sending her off so she can protect herself in the desert, they would know which demon it was and say its name omitting a letter until it was gone or use a statute to speak to it, others wrote their names in bowls to confuse the demons from attacking their families, this is all in the torah and tanakh.

I learned that Jews are allowed to use divination but are limited to ruins, lots, domino, playing cards and no one is sure if its ok or not to see a psychic but they are sure not to agree to worship what a psychic or gurus ask them to worship if its not the G-d of israel., also we are not restricted from asking otehr deities or gods to help us with anything, G-d says in the torah to NOT put any otehr deities BEFORE or beside him., but if those gurus require you chanting a deities name its like worshipping it or simply imitating those nations which are godless and seek a animated G-d which is like a golem which is forbidden again punishable by death, the first commandment.

thought i share what i learned i am still learning, im more interested in what everyone (non jewish ) has to say about all this because its true that because of the covenant they cant learn it, but the covenant only means your protected by G-d and you ask his permission to do anything.

Also rules do exist with elements like oils, herbs and amulets
For example we have shofars making our amulets, mezuzas or seals, we dont believe the mezuza box has any power but the name of G-d on it and the scroll inside DOES contain a animated state with G-d who rules over all his creation, same with teffilin and mojo bag type scrolls., we can use herbs and oils only to heal which includes to protect a family if it means to reverse a spell and some times even freezing spells to stop a threat is ok, all is ok as long as you do not have to include another G-d or demon which asks to be worshipped or a sacrifice because if they do then it means they want your permission to curse you which is what they agreed to with G-d if you dont believe in him.

regardless i say it again, we know our sages wrote the torah after ages of it been passed down orally, they encrypted it with hebrew and Moses did not write about his own death, with this said i am still learning :p

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:14 pm
by manonthepath
msrb999 wrote:Hi,

I am new here. I only have poor knowledge about magic.There are many types of magic, but how do i know which type of magic is best for me? I lack necessary knowledge to find out myself. Can any one help me?

Thank You.
How can we know what is best for you?! Learn and make choices for yourself.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:51 pm
by FatLip
manonthepath wrote:
msrb999 wrote:Hi,

I am new here. I only have poor knowledge about magic.There are many types of magic, but how do i know which type of magic is best for me? I lack necessary knowledge to find out myself. Can any one help me?

Thank You.
How can we know what is best for you?! Learn and make choices for yourself.
i would say start with the tradition you where raised or fallow, be it christian, muslim, jewish or pagan etc

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:15 pm
by Frumens
msrb999 was a very interesting person. I wonder how he's doing now.

I'm glad that you enjoyed the thread so much FatLip. It's really cool to see how these old posts from years and years ago can still have an effect on people's lives. The views expressed by Prophecy do not necessarily reflect my own, by the way. I just copy pasted that hunk-o'-text because I thought it would be helpful—and it seems it is.

Re: Which type of magic is best for me?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:55 am
by cumquake
Honestly you dont have to practice one type of magick msrb. Rarely people do I think wicca is fascinating but they use a lot of mind power in their practice I dont have the patience for that but of course you can just do fraditional rituals and come to the mind power later. The thing about ceremonial magic is it is very powerful what is available you can work on elemental and planetary rituals you can conjure spirits to teach you more majick or occult science but honestly I would like some book of ceremonial magick that has everything I want and they do exist but yeah I do feel unfulfilled with ceremonial magick. So I may use mostly what is available mainstream with ceremonial magick I use a pagan incantation for scrying here a spell from wicca there or a potion from voodoo. Thats it it doesnt mean your not official its just like where are you going to get the everything occult text and thats basically from no where occultists collect a lot of books and the best ones are from select book dealers unless you get connected with some then you have to practice mostly one thing and fill in the gaps with others.