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I was thinking about whether there is any way to make a created being, such as a tulpa/servitor, visible to the human eye. So that other people can see it.

I thought about this when I read about how people have made psi balls visible to the human eye. If psi balls can be made visible, then why not servitors?

There have also been other instances where psychic energy created by humans has been made clearly visible to others, such as Shamanic bilocation. Which is where some kind of energy duplicate of the person is visible to other people at a distant place, almost like a 3D hologram.

I'm not talking about actually manifesting solid matter out of thin air, just making the energy visible to others, just like visible psi balls and bilocation.

Does anybody know how these principles can be applied to a tulpa/servitor, thus making it visible to others?

Hello ThreeWhens,

There are certainly reports and tales about this subject. But, it is not something I have experienced myself nor has anyone whom I really trust. So I cannot offer anything on its validity. However, this would probably be a very 'high level' practice so the way to test the possibilities is to reach that level. It might be better on focusing on how to get there with this visibility as an ultimate goal. If you try to reach for what is on top of the ladder without climbing you won't make it and you'll only end up cynical about the whole thing: that old 'sour grapes' story from Aesop. Patiently and consistently climb the rungs and you'll be successful.

Here is a practical text to guide you:

http://cleaves.zapto.org/news/attachmen ... tities.pdf

I found an interesting quote taken from a book that answers this question, although the book doesn't go into specifics. The quote is taken from "Clairvoyance And Occult Power Secrets".

"You have heard of the Hindu Mango Trick, in which the magician takes a mango seed, plants it in the ground, waves his hands over it, and then causes first a tiny shoot to appear from the surface of the ground, this followed by a tiny trunk, and leaves, which grow and grow, until at last appears a full sized mango tree, which first shows blossoms and then ripe fruit. In short, in a few moments the magician has produced that which Nature require years to do—that is he apparently does this. What he really does is to produce a wonderful thought-form in the astral, from seed stage to tree and fruit stage; the astral picture reproducing perfectly the picture in his own mind. It is as if he were creating a moving picture film-roll in his mind, and then projecting this upon the screen of the air. There is no mango tree there, and never was, outside of the mind of the magician and the minds of his audience.
In the same way, the magician will seem to throw the end of a rope up into the air. It travels far up until the end is lost sight of. Then he sends a boy climbing up after it, until he too disappears from sight. Then he causes the whole thing to disappear, and lo! the boy is seen standing among the audience. The boy is real, of course, but he never left the spot—the rest was all an appearance caused by the mind and will of the magician, pictured in the astral as a thought-form. In the same way the magician will seem to cut the boy into bits, and then cause the severed parts to spring together and reassemble themselves. These feats may be varied indefinitely but the principle is ever the same—thought-form projection.
Western visitors have sought to obtain photographs of these feats of the Hindu magicians, but their plates and films invariably show nothing whatever except the old fakir sitting quietly in the centre, with a peculiar expression in his eyes. This is as might be expected, for the picture exists only in the astral, and is perceived only by the awakened astral senses of those present, which have been stimulated into activity by the power of the magician—by sympathetic vibration, to be exact. Moreover, in certain instances it has been found that the vision is confined to a limited area; persons outside of the limit-ring see nothing, and those moving nearer to the magician lose sight of what they had previously seen. There are scientific reasons for this last fact, which need not be gone into at this place. The main point I am seeking to bring out is that these wonderful scenes are simply and wholly thought-form pictures in the astral, perceived by the awakened astral vision of those present. This to be sure is wonderful enough—but still no miracle has been worked!
I may mention here that these magicians begin their training from early youth. In addition to certain instruction concerning astral phenomena which is handed down from father to son among them they are set to work practicing "visualization" of things previously perceived. They are set to work upon, say, a rose. They must impress upon their memory the perfect picture of the rose—no easy matter, I may tell you. Then they proceed to more difficult objects, slowly and gradually, along well known principles of memory development. Along with this they practice the art of reproducing that which they remember—projecting it in thought-form state. And so the young magician proceeds, from simple to complex things; from easy to difficult; until, finally, he is pronounced fit to give public exhibitions. All this takes years and years—sometimes the boy grows to be a middle-aged man before he is allowed to publicly exhibit his power."

From the writing, it sounds like the Hindus are creating the phenomenon of astral sight. I'm not familiar enough with astral sight to know how clear of an image it produces. But most people who claim to have it describe it as indistinct and foggy. So it would be very difficult to use this method to produce an image that's clear enough to trick people into believing what they're seeing is solid and physical, since even people who naturally have or have trained themselves to have astral sight can only sense indistinct, foggy pictures.

Personally, I do not think that what those yogis are doing in those situations is creating tulpas; they are using a form of telepathic projection as an illusion technique on the crowd. I have a very strong suspicion this is what is behind the alien abduction experiences. This ability is something called a 'siddhi' in Sanskrit, particularly it is called Parichitabhignta. I have not witnessed such things in action so I cannot swear to its validity, but, there are certainly many reports about it, even from Westerners.

Practice Raja Yoga and maybe you'll get there.
http://www.amazon.com/A-Series-Lessons- ... +yoga+free

Asurendra wrote:Personally, I do not think that what those yogis are doing in those situations is creating tulpas; they are using a form of telepathic projection as an illusion technique on the crowd. I have a very strong suspicion this is what is behind the alien abduction experiences. This ability is something called a 'siddhi' in Sanskrit, particularly it is called Parichitabhignta. I have not witnessed such things in action so I cannot swear to its validity, but, there are certainly many reports about it, even from Westerners.

Practice Raja Yoga and maybe you'll get there.
http://www.amazon.com/A-Series-Lessons- ... +yoga+free

Thank you for the Amazon link. And I knew they weren't creating tulpas, but what I thought was important is that they were successfully making their own mental projections, which would normally be invisible to everyone else, visible. Maybe the same underlying principle could apply to making tulpas visible.

My idea of it went like this: if a Hindu had created a tulpa and was observing his tulpa, he could exert some kind of influence over others to make them able to see astral constructs, which would include the tulpa.

But thank you for bringing up telepathic projection, because that may be more on the mark of what their technique was. I never thought telepathy could be strong enough to create that level of illusion, because normally telepathic communication is, just like astral sight, fuzzy and unclear at best. In addition, telepathic messages usually register in the subconscious mind rather than overtly appearing to the conscious mind, as I understand it. But even with telepathic projection the same theory could apply: if a Hindu had created a tulpa and was observing his tulpa, he could use telepathic projection to get the crowd to see what he is observing. And they would see the tulpa through him.

It does not sound easy if you did it either way, but it wouldn't be an advanced ability if it were easy.

The alien abduction theory is interesting. Do you think that magicians are tricking people into thinking they've been abducted by aliens? Why would they do that? It would make one hell of a prank, that's for sure.

Just my thoughts on it but I think this would relate to how strong the servitor/tulpa is. The stronger it is the easier it would for it to influence the thoughts of other's.The only practical technique that I've ever encountered for doing this is working with it for a really long time(visualizing it nearly all day everyday until other's can see it). now if it works have no clue.

If I'd have to come up with a theory on it off the bat it would be.

You create a servitor and work with it long enough that it has the energy to influence other subtly when this starts to happen it actually starts to become a Egregore this is usually when you start to lose control of it too and where all the warnings come it .When this happens it gains more energy faster and starts to become visible to others.

Hello Zenick,

I think, under most circumstances, a person would have to be clairvoyant to perceive a tulpa. I wouldn't completely rule out the other, but, as a magical goal it may be a dead end. There are religions in which millions of people over generations have poured energy into god-forms and we do not see them walking around every day (thankfully, could you imagine running into Jehovah in a dark alley?).

Hello ThreeWhens,

To be upfront, I am still neutral about the whole UFO phenomenon. But, if it were real I have my suspicions about it. I don't think that human magicians or yogis are generating the alien abduction experience. We are not the only beings which exist and others may possess siddhis such as Parichitabhignta. Remember, these and all occult abilities have no connection to morality.

I don't see how it could be done. Even if I described my servitor to you in vivid detail, the image in your mind would differ from mine.

thankfully, could you imagine running into Jehovah in a dark alley

Now that made me chuckle.

Well yeah it would make a silly goal. The thought form would have to want to make it self known to other's so more likely this would be a rouge one as all that I have read about(visible and/or phyiscal type manifestations) were. Not something as well defined as a god-form who would know a bit better and only become visible to the worthy or whatever depending on the god-form and is constantly being feed from a large source.

DawningSun777 wrote:I don't see how it could be done. Even if I described my servitor to you in vivid detail, the image in your mind would differ from mine.

The description would be the same though wouldn't it?

Interesting question. Apparently AO Spare could do it (according to K Grant).

Likewise if, as sum claim, modern Western magick is not decadent or weak but well accomplished how come commanding invisible object-moving forces (like the power of 'poltergeists' etc), levitation (like sum eastern adepts, apparently), materialising objects out of thin air (again, a feat on record), and other superhuman shiz, apparently not so common?? Is it because thats all impossible in this universe? or local 'modern' reality makes it (near) impossible? or adepts can do those things but keep their cards close to their chests? or westerners havent managed to overcome their own disbelief in the possibility of such things? Western occultists arent turned on to teh real powerz? or what? The record of such 'supernatural' things taking place seems pretty good....

Zenick wrote:

DawningSun777 wrote:I don't see how it could be done. Even if I described my servitor to you in vivid detail, the image in your mind would differ from mine.

The description would be the same though wouldn't it?

Ever played telephone? Even without outside parties, our brain will never match the exact description. We will see different shades of colors, different minute details.