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Questions about Sigils

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:07 pm
by praesidivmdelvx
I'm only reading about Magick and not practicing. I decided it would be better to learn as much as possible before jumping in ignorantly. I have a couple different books:

Ted Andrews - Qabalah Magick & More Simplified Magick (Pathworking)
Marion Weinstein - Positive Magic
Robert Bruce - Astral Dynamics
Donald Michael Kraig - Modern Magick
Three Initiates - The Kybalion

Some of the things in the "White Magick" section of Modern Magick seem really great. LBRP, Middle Pillar, other meditations etc.
However, I've noticed that there are goetic sigils further along in the book. I have no desire to perform goetic evocation or evoke any spirit for that matter. I'm only interested in becoming closer to the divine via pathworking, meditation, & astral projection. Also knowing how to handle an entity or thought-form should it bother myself or my family.

My concern is, based off of the fact that nothing is at rest and all matter has a vibratory rate, does merely having a book with sigils in it pose any danger? Could the vibratory rate of theses images create a sympathetic resonance to these beings, attracting them? Also most of my books were purchased used, any advice in terms of cleansing them? I read a passage in Dion Fortune's - Psychic Self-Defense where she says that books could have a magnetic current attached to them created by magical workings performed while using or owning them etc. No real negative energy is felt but I always like to be cautious.

Any help from a much more practiced and knowledgeable person would be very appreciated.

Re: Questions about Sigils

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:07 pm
by Ramscha
My concern is, based off of the fact that nothing is at rest and all matter has a vibratory rate, does merely having a book with sigils in it pose any danger? Could the vibratory rate of theses images create a sympathetic resonance to these beings, attracting them? Also most of my books were purchased used, any advice in terms of cleansing them? I read a passage in Dion Fortune's - Psychic Self-Defense where she says that books could have a magnetic current attached to them created by magical workings performed while using or owning them etc. No real negative energy is felt but I always like to be cautious.

Any help from a much more practiced and knowledgeable person would be very appreciated.
They could (theoretically). Also your thought about that matter that the book might cause danger can have an effect (theoretically).

Then of course when something happens you knew it would happen because you already thought about it that it would happen and then the images in the book are they cause and then they are evil and you have to get rid of them and cleanse and purify everything and get rid of the negativ energy caused by you by cleansing the room because you were still thinking about the negativ stuff and bla bla bla....

You see where it end. Seriously, paranoia is one of the most common threats that adepts might face.
Yes, your images and texts might possess a certain power and yes, it is good to be a little cautious with them. But honestly, don't be too shy with the books.

A practical advice for the cautious ones who like it tidy
- Find a seperate place for your magick stuff, a chest or a wardrobe. If you like, it could be some fancy stuff as well if you are into that and like something special for your special hobby. When you put it away in the chest, this is like some kind of mini-banishing. Out of the view, out of the mind.
- If you want to cleanse something, why not be oldfashioned and just use some incense or stuff like that, depends a lot on your system and how you define "pure" and what things you like for cleaning something.

Ramscha

Re: Questions about Sigils

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:24 pm
by Desecrated
As a collector of occult book I would say = Not likely.

A printed book that is 30-40 years old won't have enough energy to them to do anything special.

A handwritten book on the other hands takes months if not years to make. Somebody has to pour their soul, time and effort into making one of those.




If you still want to clean them off from old energy a simple incense bath and a little salt would do the trick.

Light an incense, move the book through the smoke, feel, will and say; this book is now clean. This book is now mine.
Sprinkle some salt on the cover and the back.
Done.

Re: Questions about Sigils

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:04 pm
by Sypheara
Sigils unless activated properly and purposefully usually only have a very small effect, and likely only when read/stared at for long periods of time.

It is a completely different matter if as desecrated said it was hand written, especially if it was done in a magickal manner utilising certain inks etc. It is also a different matter if the book has been consecrated and linked with a particular spirit.. my own diaries are linked to Hecate when i begin them and fully consecrated when i have finished.

Certain books are also opened as gateways before being published by their authors - you can usually scry which ones are enfleshed in such a manner and if they indeed hold any intrinsic possession.

Either way i would not cleanse the books. If they have been activated and worked with, this just makes them more effective tools. Why blunt a knife simply because you are afraid of it?

Id leave well alone and just treat them with respect.

Re: Questions about Sigils

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:04 pm
by manofsands
Along with what others have presented I would like to add that most of these entities and forces you may worry about don't actively 'live' on this plane. They usually need help or be invited to make any decernable effect. This is not to say in some way that they cannot, but in general I don't think it is something you have to worry about.

If the case came up that an unwelcomed entity was bugging you, I would guess you would feel its presence in some way. If you did not actively invite it, then my guess is that it would be holding on by its finger tips and a simple banishing ritual, smudging or even protective visualization could knock it loose. The worry you may have left over from some B-movie memory isn't a likely scenerio.