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Important Question

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:19 pm
by aleff12
Hello, I am new here.

I have an important question regarding the power of mirrors and blood.

I know that mirrors might be portals for interdimensional entities but I am not sure. If so, I know also that blood has a great impact in the magic world.

But let`s say that some people that have pimples on their faces might drop accidentally drops of blood on the mirrors when they squeeze the pimple.

If so, would that mean that a person is more vulnerable to an entity attack ? or it has no power at all if there was no intent ?

Or is the belief that gives power to such things ? Only if the person believes that an entity can influence that person by doing such things, the entity can influence that person ?

Please tell me a honest oppinion on my question.

I really want to find the answer guys

Re: Important Question

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:11 pm
by Sypheara
First off, welcome to the forums! Always good to see fellow new posters :D
But let`s say that some people that have pimples on their faces might drop accidentally drops of blood on the mirrors when they squeeze the pimple.

If so, would that mean that a person is more vulnerable to an entity attack ?
No.
Or is the belief that gives power to such things ? Only if the person believes that an entity can influence that person by doing such things, the entity can influence that person ?
Nope.

These are really two questions, so i've answered them briefly above.

It is not just belief that gives power to such things. That is unfortunately a very post modern mindset that we could do with doing away with as quickly as possible, as it just creates distorted, incorrect, and solipsistic branches of useless magickal practice imho.

The answer to the reason why that wouldnt work is actually a difficult one, because of its complexity. Suffice to the say, the amount of blood transferred to the mirror is negligible. The amount of energy blood contains can vary greatly, on its condition which is also modified based on what is attempting to be obtained. The most empowered blood flows from a person whilst they are under possession by a higher entity, spirit or god which additional infuses ones own blood and lifeforce with theirs.

This is the state in which blood would be drawn by myself to empower a an object to fully ensoul it. Lesser blood work without the possession can unlock sigils etc when used appropriately, but will not be able to open a mirror as a permanent gateway. This can be done in numerous ways, one described as above with the persons own blood, or through utilising other arguably as strong techniques or stronger, such as animal sacrifice.

Due to the very low level amount of fluid, the non heightened state of the blood involved, and the fact the mirror has not been additionally prepared to act as a gateway proper and seat energies, it will have a negligible effect one can entirely disregard. A normal mirror is no more a portal or anything else than any other reflective surface, such as water etc for creating a medium from which spirits can emanate and display themselves. However, I will admit to myself owning no mirrors in my entire household, and dislike the fact my tablet is basically a black mirror, as it means that spirits can show themselves in these surfaces.

They can certainly not project from them, unless of a very, very high vibratory nature and spirits of that power could manifest how and where they would like anyway.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:59 pm
by Asurendra
Hello Aleff12,

Welcome to the Forum.

First of all the probability is, even if every mirror were a potential portal to unknown dimensions, that a drop of blood on it will open it like a key is infinitesimally slight. It is not the blood or the mirror that is the factor in themselves so much as your intention. Yes, there is energy in blood but your intention is far greater.

That is my opinion, anyway.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:48 pm
by RoseRed
What they said.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:29 am
by aleff12
Question : Why you dont have anymore mirrors at your place ?

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:44 am
by Sypheara
Like I said, spirits have a habit of showing themselves through reflective surfaces. Though this is different from being able to use it at a portal, it can cause surprise etc. I also find that if i use mirrors purely in an occult fashion and very rarely, i get better results with them somehow.

Basically just small things like that. I intend to get one for practicality, a small one that can be turned around when not needed in the bathroom, and a full length one for my working room when i have the money.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:08 pm
by Desecrated
If magic was that easy, everyone would be doing it.
Magic take time, months and months of training, time and energy.
And Will.

You can't just accidentally open a portal to another reality.
You can trip on a board of wood, but you can't accidentally built a house just stumbling on some boards and nail.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:44 pm
by manofsands
Also when Sypheara says...
Like I said, spirits have a habit of showing themselves through reflective surfaces.
This is something that would only happen to one who has trained themselves and opened up to such... or to someone who was born with expanded abilities (and would already be aware of spirits). Seeing entities in mirrors isn't likely to happen to just anybody.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:51 pm
by Sypheara
manofsands wrote:Also when Sypheara says...
Like I said, spirits have a habit of showing themselves through reflective surfaces.
This is something that would only happen to one who has trained themselves and opened up to such... or to someone who was born with expanded abilities (and would already be aware of spirits). Seeing entities in mirrors isn't likely to happen to just anybody.
Mostly true, but again id say it heavily depends on the entity so thats a rule which can be broken.

Some spirits are able to show themselves and interact with the physical regardless of the persons ability. These spirits can just appear in these surfaces, but that is very, very rare. Mainly because its more they arnt aware or interested in the person in question.

For some examples, you just need to look at some haunting and poltergeist cases of the kinds of things spirits can do without requiring a person to have any particular special abilities to observe them.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:36 pm
by RoseRed
You can't just accidentally open a portal to another reality.
Not everyone can but those that are inherently gifted can. Those with strong and untrained gifts can wreak havoc in their lives and in those around them. It doesn't happen often but it can happen.

Sometimes, those portals open all by themselves, too. Well, at least without any help on your own end.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:12 pm
by Asurendra
You can use a mirror for magic to see an entity (especially a dark mirror) but that does not mean that all mirrors are magical. As a general rule, the magic comes from you, the mirror is simply a vehicle. Even with an enchanted object this energy has to interact with you to manifest. Haunted objects may be different but for most situations the above general rule applies.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:23 pm
by RoseRed
Yeah - unless you get a stupid kid with mad inherent Talent that decides to play Bloody Mary in front of the mirror and wakes it up. That's always fun to fix.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:37 pm
by aleff12
Are smart phones black mirrors or not ? one friend is afraid to touch them anymore because he might have blood traces on his fingers and it could affect him by touchin that phone ?

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:02 pm
by Asurendra
Aleff12,

When your friend says such things hit him on the head to wake him up. What was said above applies:

"First of all the probability is, even if every mirror were a potential portal to unknown dimensions, that a drop of blood on it will open it like a key is infinitesimally slight. It is not the blood or the mirror that is the factor in themselves so much as your intention. Yes, there is energy in blood but your intention is far greater."

A demon is not going to crawl out of the cell phone to attack him. The film 'Mirrors' is a movie.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:05 pm
by RoseRed
Seriously? That's getting into the realms of paranoia.

And most black mirrors are either made or consecrated for that purpose.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:54 am
by shaded_shadow
RoseRed wrote:Yeah - unless you get a stupid kid with mad inherent Talent that decides to play Bloody Mary in front of the mirror and wakes it up. That's always fun to fix.
Would you care to elaborate? It sounds like personal experience? If you've posted the experience elsewhere just a link or PM will do fine thank you.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:13 pm
by RoseRed
My daughter did that when she was 12 in the bathroom mirror - along with her own little impromtu ritual to go along with it. Of course, she didn't tell me that for several years. All I knew was I woke up one morning and the bathroom mirror was working magically - as if someone opened the front door but still had the glass/screen door closed. You could see what was in the mirror but it was still closed enough to that things didn't come through.

Guess who got a new medicine cabinet that day?

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:21 pm
by shaded_shadow
I know this is probably a little off topic but why didn't you 'close the door' so to speak? cleanse and or a banishment afterwards to wrap it up? wouldn't that have saved you buying a new medicine cabinet?

Re: Important Question

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:15 pm
by Sypheara
I cant speak for Rose, but in some cases its simply easier to dispose or destroy a certain object than go through the process of cleansing it depending on what energies are seated within. Usually when you break the material links the energies dissipate as well. You can also combine the two for maximum effect.

For example, If i had an item, such as a mirror, that was enchanted in such a manner by accident, I would cleanse it to the best of my ability, and smash it, before burying the pieces in a place of seclusion to ensure that the link was permanently and irrevocably broken.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:05 pm
by RoseRed
The simplest answer to that question is that is was a mirror on the wall instead of a medicine cabinet and I had been wanting to replace it anyway.

The rest of the answer is that I did 'close the door'. I wouldn't have disposed of it until it was safe for someone elses child to come across accidentally.

Re: Important Question

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:06 am
by Sypheara
True, that's something I hadn't considered. Better safe than sorry.