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As far as Magical Theory goes, it's just as simple. Nonphysical is condensed into Physical. You can say that vibrations are slowed down and all that, but most of the practical explanations I've seen suggest actually doing it is a matter of condensation,

lupenthewolf wrote:Once you slow down energy enough to begin creating physical matter, how to you make it take on the shape you want? For that matter how do you make it take on the properties of the material you want? The practitioner will need to come up with a way to guide the energies into form as they condense/slow down into matter, otherwise it's not unlikely that you'd end up with a pile of magickally conjured dirt.

On a more helpful note: I agree with Rin in that slowing down energy and condensing energy would probably have much the same effect, but that's not where the real problem lies. Once you slow down energy enough to begin creating physical matter, how to you make it take on the shape you want? For that matter how do you make it take on the properties of the material you want? The practitioner will need to come up with a way to guide the energies into form as they condense/slow down into matter, otherwise it's not unlikely that you'd end up with a pile of magickally conjured dirt.

Horny Goat wrote:Khazargo, I don't know whether you want the ability to dematerialise objects and then rematerialise them in your vicinity, or whether you want the ability to create objects that did not previously exist and have them materialise. Either way, they are called apports and the history of the paranormal is full of such incidents. Poltergeists, of which there have been many, often produce such phenomena.

If you want to be able to do this then forget Einstien, forget science. Most scientists don't believe in the paranormal and their science doesn't allow for such things. The laws of physics and the principles of magick are not the same thing at all. All that science can offer you are beliefs, which if they help you to believe in and practice magick are very useful, but they can also be very limiting to a magickian.

If you want to produce apports then you are going to have to produce them with your mind.

There are a number of different ways of acquiring a magickal/psychical power. They are:-

1) through meditation.
2)through the use of drugs.
3)through the use of mantra.
4) through the use of magickal ritual.

With the first one, meditation? I cannot advise you on that as lacking experience.

With the second, drugs? I cannot recommend any drugs that enable the production of apports.

With the third one, mantra? We now know that mantras do not have to be ancient, authentic, and handed down by a guru. The work of the Chaos Magickians has shown that mantras can be self-created, and for any purpose. They are still very effective. The sigil mantra method is used for the 'ability to produce apports' goal.

The fourth one, ritual magick? If you desire an event, an ability, a power then work a ritual for it, whether it be long, lengthy and complex or short and simple. A single working of this ritual is all well and good if you are an adept, otherwise 10, 7 or 5 repetitions are necessary for success.

Referring back now to poltergeists: there are three theories:-

1) They are non-human spirits. As such, they have abilities that human beings, living or dead, do not possess.

2) Or, they are the spirits of departed human beings. As such, why should their minds be able to do something that the living human's mind cannot?

3) Or, they are not spirits but their phenomena is produced by the unconscious levels of mind of a living human being.

Poltergeists commonly produce apports and whether they are the spirits of dead people or the unconscious minds of the living, they show such phenomenon as being within human capability.

If you want the ability to produce apports then create a sigil and a mantra for such an ability. Work then for ten days running. You will then have the ability. It is as simple as that.

Please, just do it and do not allow anything to stop you. Report back with success.

I would have written a longer reply but I realised I couldn't write for shite. Ha ha.

Horny Goat wrote:Rin, accounts of the production of apports by poltergeists are commonplace. There are so many it would be possible to fill a book with them as they are a key part of this well attested phenomena. If you consider them fraudulent then I just don't know what to say.

Example 1) A case known as The Black Monk of Pontefract from 1960's England.

A boy and his grandmother are in the lounge of the boy's home. A fine grey-white powder, like chalk dust, is falling all around, covering surfaces in a fine layer. They look up to the ceiling thinking that is the source. It is not. The top half of the room is perfectly clear of this powder. It starts to fall from below head height.

This is immediately followed by pools of water appearing on the kitchen floor with no visible cause. New pools appear as quickly as they can mop them up.

At a later stage in this case, the family had an egg come floating into the lounge from the kitchen. It was dropped on the floor. A second egg soon followed. The mother rushed to the refrigerator, got all the eggs out and put them in a wooden box. She then sat on the lid preventing the poltergeist from playing it's tricks.
An egg materialised mid air, before exploding. She looked inside the box. An egg was missing. She sat back down on the lid of the box. Another egg appeared, exploded, and when she looked in the box it was empty. The eggs were gone.

Example 2) The Case of Maria Jose Ferreria.

A pretty 11 year old girl living with the servants of the Jabuticabal family in Brazil. They were plagued by poltergeist phenomena. A neighbour, a Spiritist by religion called Joao Voloe offered to help this Catholic family. He decided the girl Maria was the focus.

A dozen eggs were placed in the egg rack in tide refrigerator. When the family's granddaughter went into the yard to feed the chickens, she found three eggs underneath one of them. But the bird was a cock. Looking in the refrigerator, three eggs had disappeared.

Maria moved in with Volpe. 312 stones, one weighing 3.7 kilos fell in the house.

Maria found that she only had to ask for something from the poltergeist/s and it would appear at get feet. A piece of candy; a flower; a brooch; any small object.

On another occasion the girl reached for a guava fruit from a tree but it was too high for her. She asked Mrs Volpe to reach for it. When she did, it simply vanished.

There were many more materialisations in this case which ends tragically with death of the girl, aged 13.

Example 3) The Cardiff Poltergeist aka Pete the Poltergeist.

This poltergeist resided in the corner of a workshop. If you tossed a stone to it, it would throw a different one back.

I shan't write this. I'll just provide a link.

http://www.british-paranormal.co.uk/the ... -services/

I have been unable to find the quite well known case of a poltergeist that aided in the repair of an old aircraft by materialising needed, and hard to acquire parts. It was on UK television years ago. I believe the host was Michael Aspell.

I have been unable to find the case of the poltergeist that materialised cannonballs. The recipient now has enough to fill a 'brass monkey', the name given to their holder.

There are simply so many cases of poltergeists producing apports that I won't try to list anymore.

Example 4) Alfred Russel Wallace, Charles Darwin's evolution co-theorist, investigates a medium.

The medium was Agnes Nichols, later Agnes Guppy. She could produce apports. When Walace asked for a sunflower, he got a six foot specimen with roots and earth still attached. One another occasion someone asked for flowers and received what looked like a shop full.
Her most incredible apport was herself. One one occasion she sat at her dining room table doing accounts and simply disappeared. Four miles away a small group of spiritualists holding a ace acne in a darkened room were surprised by an almighty crash and, striking a match, found Mrs Guppy lying on their table clutching an account book.

I will not offer you any accounts of H.P. Blavatsky producing apports as you may feel she is a fraud.

I will not offer accounts of apports connected to Uri Gellar as his powers are, to many, dubious.

Sai Baba's reputation is mud.

All three of the above can be looked up on the Internet.

I will not list the famous anecdote of Austin Osman Spare attempting a materialisation of roses and instead getting a shower of shit.

Time is running short and I've been writing for ages.

With regards to resurrecting the dead: there have been numerous cases of dead people reanimating their own bodies without need of magickians, but the technique of bringing one back to life is not so difficult at all so long as their corpse is not too damaged or rotted away.

Horny Goat wrote:For details of poltergeists producing apports you're probably best going with written books rather than Internet sources, which tend to be less detailed. Any books specifically on poltergeists, ghosts in general, the paranormal i general and spiritualism. I think books tend to be better sources than the Internet.