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I like to start with a light blue Aureola then I extend the heigt above ne head so I can fit a silver halo inside. but to be honest i imagine the halo to be more as a helmet. but then I drags a black cloak over ill. I added some purple strands on the tunnik .

S how do you imagine your aura???

The aura is the outer radiation of internal things, so I don't dress it up at all. I work with my internal energies and my consciousness, and my aura changes accordingly.

Like when I'm sparring or such and I want to be intimidating, I just shift my internal stuff so that I am actually more intimidating from the inside out. Or the same thing when I want to be more calming and comfortable to the people around me. Shape Shifting and such is another matter entirely, though, and doesn't have much to do with direct auric manipulation.



~:Shin:~

D - that sounds more like a shielding technique than an Auric Dressing. Although, some people do use the concepts interchangeably.

"LMFAO - Sexy and I know it" is constantly playing everywhere I go. [crazy] [rofl]

Shinichi wrote:The aura is the outer radiation of internal things, so I don't dress it up at all. I work with my internal energies and my consciousness, and my aura changes accordingly.

Like when I'm sparring or such and I want to be intimidating, I just shift my internal stuff so that I am actually more intimidating from the inside out. Or the same thing when I want to be more calming and comfortable to the people around me. Shape Shifting and such is another matter entirely, though, and doesn't have much to do with direct auric manipulation.



~:Shin:~

hi shinichi!

could you tell a bit more about shape-shifting?
it's something that fascinates me greatly, and actually i imagined it to be like the description you gave of changing your aura, just stronger...
but you say that there is something else to do for it to happen?

greetings : )

pali

Desecrated wrote:I like to start with a light blue Aureola then I extend the heigt above ne head so I can fit a silver halo inside. but to be honest i imagine the halo to be more as a helmet. but then I drags a black cloak over ill. I added some purple strands on the tunnik .

S how do you imagine your aura???

i'm actually just starting to really feel it. i'm a very kinesthetic person, so i feel the structure of my energy, and the colouring is secondary.
i don't really dress myself up, so to speak [happy] , but i have to admit that i love to feel powerfully sexual... it's just such an alive feeling : )

p.s.: powerfully sexual energy structure? heavy waves, but with the readyness to explode in the blink of an eye. there is something of the movement of the snake in it, as well as the lightness of a big cat. orange in the base, but sparks of light green, light blue, yellow and red all over it as well... the queen of wands ; )

palindrom wrote:

Shinichi wrote:The aura is the outer radiation of internal things, so I don't dress it up at all. I work with my internal energies and my consciousness, and my aura changes accordingly.

Like when I'm sparring or such and I want to be intimidating, I just shift my internal stuff so that I am actually more intimidating from the inside out. Or the same thing when I want to be more calming and comfortable to the people around me. Shape Shifting and such is another matter entirely, though, and doesn't have much to do with direct auric manipulation.



~:Shin:~

hi shinichi!

could you tell a bit more about shape-shifting?
it's something that fascinates me greatly, and actually i imagined it to be like the description you gave of changing your aura, just stronger...
but you say that there is something else to do for it to happen?

greetings : )

pali

Proper magical or shamanic shape shifting occurs while your soul is outside your body. Meaning that you project the astral body, then utilizing your mental control over that body, you shift its shape from your standard human form to something else. An animal, a spirit. Whatever.

Bardon actually teaches this in his higher steps. For Step 9 I think, he instructs you to Astral Project to the Elemental Kingdoms (and later, the Planetary Spheres) only after changing your astral body into the shape of the natives of that Kingdom, so that they will see you as one of their own. The only Elemental Kingdom where you don't have to shift as a new initiate is the Air Kingdom, because Sylphs are so naturally close to our appearance to begin with.

In every case, you should always revert to your natural form before re-entering your body after such Journeys. Walking around with your soul in the shape of a Salamander (or anything else) while everything else is Human will cause problems.



~:Shin:~

Shinichi wrote:
Proper magical or shamanic shape shifting occurs while your soul is outside your body. Meaning that you project the astral body, then utilizing your mental control over that body, you shift its shape from your standard human form to something else. An animal, a spirit. Whatever.

Bardon actually teaches this in his higher steps. For Step 9 I think, he instructs you to Astral Project to the Elemental Kingdoms (and later, the Planetary Spheres) only after changing your astral body into the shape of the natives of that Kingdom, so that they will see you as one of their own. The only Elemental Kingdom where you don't have to shift as a new initiate is the Air Kingdom, because Sylphs are so naturally close to our appearance to begin with.

In every case, you should always revert to your natural form before re-entering your body after such Journeys. Walking around with your soul in the shape of a Salamander (or anything else) while everything else is Human will cause problems.



~:Shin:~

so the main difference is in where your soul is, inside or outside the body?

this touches to something i often wondered: what is the difference between imagining to journey (in which i'm getting quite good by now), and proper journeying?
in my exercises it sometimes gets really real, with also feeling like i have bird-emotions, and sensing clawed feet and wings and feel the temperature of the air and so... but nevertheless, i don't flatter myself to really be able to do astral projection yet.
is the border a flexible one there?
how do i undertand if i'm still casting the birdpicture mentally or if i'm really being it? it's just in the way i perceive, isn't it?

...or is where i reside while working always the spirit, and i'm neither body nor soul nor mind?

...a bit awkwardly written, sorry, this is newish land to me...

i'm doing bardon, so i'll definitely getting across these instructions again - am just on step two/three now, slowly getting ready towards step four...

as to staying salamander when getting back home - where is my soul then, while i'm being salamander? i mean, my body, i "know" where it stays while i'm moving out of it, but where do i leave my soul? or do i change it, and change it back? who in me remembers what a human soul is supposed to look like? my mind?

pali

@desecrated: i hope it's ok if i'm getting into astral journeying here - i'd love to do an entire thread on it, but these days i don't have the time to host a thread... if you want me to shut up here, just say so ; )

palindrom wrote:so the main difference is in where your soul is, inside or outside the body?

The main difference is where your Spirit, your Consciousness, is and what vehicle it is using to get there. There is more than one form of Journeying. Bardon discusses the two most important ones for most practitioners, those being what he calls Mental Wandering and Astral Projection. The difference between them is the vehicle you use to Journey. Mental Wandering utilizes the Mental Body, whereas with Astral Projection you separate the Astral Body (soul) from the physical body and use that as your vehicle.

There is also, in my own practice, Internal Journeying. Rowe touches on this a bit with his Sacred Space practice, and I also use it for Lucid Dreaming and similar internal exercises.

palindrom wrote:this touches to something i often wondered: what is the difference between imagining to journey (in which i'm getting quite good by now), and proper journeying?
in my exercises it sometimes gets really real, with also feeling like i have bird-emotions, and sensing clawed feet and wings and feel the temperature of the air and so... but nevertheless, i don't flatter myself to really be able to do astral projection yet.
is the border a flexible one there?
how do i undertand if i'm still casting the birdpicture mentally or if i'm really being it? it's just in the way i perceive, isn't it?

The difference between imagination and Journeying is that with Journeying, you are actually...Journeying somewhere. With Mental and Soul Journeys, this is easily verifiable. You can just walk around your room, house or neighborhood (exactly as Bardon instructs) in order to look around and stuff and learn things. Then when you're back in your body, you go check those things to see if you actually saw them or imagined them.

The Plastic Imagination is a powerful tool for concentration, but you need to learn the difference between imagination and real informational input. Not learning this difference quickly leads to delusion. This is why Bardon teaches you Imagination in step two and three and why he only gives instructions for things that can lead to delusion in later steps, which most students only reach after a few years of serious training if they do things right.

palindrom wrote:...or is where i reside while working always the spirit, and i'm neither body nor soul nor mind?

If you go by Bardon's explanation for Spiritual Anatomy (which I use myself), then you are an Immortal Spirit (Consiousness) that is simultaneously incarnate in a Mind (Mental Body), Soul (Astral Body), and a (Physical) Body. These three bodies are vehicles that allow your consciousness to interact on the different planes of existence, but when you die all three of those bodies die and you become Spirit again.

palindrom wrote:as to staying salamander when getting back home - where is my soul then, while i'm being salamander? i mean, my body, i "know" where it stays while i'm moving out of it, but where do i leave my soul? or do i change it, and change it back? who in me remembers what a human soul is supposed to look like? my mind?

Your Soul is what changes shape and changes back while projecting the Soul (and the Mind is while projecting the Mind), and is the vehicle of your Spirit.

If you spend so much time in other shapes and other worlds that you forget what it's like to be human, then you have a few much bigger problems than what part of you is supposed to remember that. Those fairy tales about people getting lost in Faerie have a grain of truth to them, you know.

You've been a human for many years, and the part of you that most people call the "subconscious" has an blueprint of your existence that will come through instinctually, while your Spirit also has its own blueprint of your highest potential that will come through intuitively. Like a rubber band, no matter what shape you twist yourself into, unless you break something you'll always instinctually and intuitively get pulled back towards the version of yourself that is most natural and harmonious to everything else.



~:Shin:~

I just want to point out that I was very high and don't remember making this thread.
I have no idea what the hell I was talking about.

Desecrated wrote:I just want to point out that I was very high and don't remember making this thread.
I have no idea what the hell I was talking about.

We've all been there.