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I have heard of the OSV (Ordo Strigoii Vii), TOV (Temple of the Vampire), House Kheperu, and that's all. And as far as I know, none one of those organizations is full of practicing vampyres with any real occult knowledge or organization.

I'm looking for something similar to what the CoS (Church of Satan) has, but for vampyres. Meaning, a physical location/house, practices actual magick instead of just trying to sell you fangs and jewelry (OSV and TOV are known for just being commercial organizations for selling things), etc.

Does such a thing exist? Or is the vampyre community not as well-established as I'd hoped?

Thank you.

Such a thing does not exist because vampires do not exist, at least not as anything distinct from regular humans. Vampirism is simply the act of draining vital energy from the people around you - which is an incredibly inefficient (and morally dubious) way of obtaining energy. Such a person could be called a "vampire" in the same sense that someone who lies regularly could be called a "liar," but it's just a label for a pattern of behavior, not a distinct species or sub-species or spiritual state or any other such nonsense. I don't like to throw around absolutes when it comes to metaphysical matters, but in this case I'm quite confident in doing so. Any vampire "covens" are either collections of individuals who have allowed romanticism to delude them into thinking they need to drain energy from people to survive, groups of people who like to roleplay as mythical vampires for thrills or commercial enterprises seeking to profit off the former two.

What country are you in? There are a bunch of different vampyre groups that participate in the Endless Night balls in New Orleans beyond just the Strigoi Vii/Sabretooth Clan crowd. And as I recall from briefly living in New York as a teenager, there was a more hardcore group that used to throw invite-only parties in the underground steam tunnels. Can't remember their name and no clue whether they still exist. But if you're looking for a group that does anything more than basic energy work and elaborate cosplay in fake fangs...yeah no, never heard of one, and I'd be highly surprised if one existed. I've met some nice people involved in that scene but as far as subcultures go, it's pretty freaking silly.

Rin wrote:Such a thing does not exist because vampires do not exist, at least not as anything distinct from regular humans. Vampirism is simply the act of draining vital energy from the people around you - which is an incredibly inefficient (and morally dubious) way of obtaining energy. Such a person could be called a "vampire" in the same sense that someone who lies regularly could be called a "liar," but it's just a label for a pattern of behavior, not a distinct species or sub-species or spiritual state or any other such nonsense. I don't like to throw around absolutes when it comes to metaphysical matters, but in this case I'm quite confident in doing so. Any vampire "covens" are either collections of individuals who have allowed romanticism to delude them into thinking they need to drain energy from people to survive, groups of people who like to roleplay as mythical vampires for thrills or commercial enterprises seeking to profit off the former two.

Well I've read about how the concept originates. Basically it happened very recently in a village in Romania. Someone died, the people who knew him complained about seeing him in their room or dreams. Then leave during dawn and they would feel extremely weakened. They went to the guy's grave, dug him up and attacked his corpse. When they finished the hauntings suddenly stopped and they no longer felt weakened to a point of death for some reason. Throughout medieval europe the "vampire" cases were backed up by people in a local village seeing the dead person walking around their village then feel weakened, some even dying from this feeling of "weakening".

The slaying ritual of damaging/hurting the bodies would cause the sightings of the said dead person and the haunting complaints to immediately cease. So what do you make of this? Its how the myth or concept originated:

"Marinescu explained to police when he was arrested that Toma, who he said had been a respected and well-liked teacher in the village for years, had been buried on Christmas Day in 2003. But soon afterwards he had begun to appear to members of Marinescu's family in dreams as a vampire. Although he did not see the man himself, he saw his family become sick and they told him that Toma was not just a dream but a vampire whose spirit had come back from the dead."

"We burned it, dissolved the ash into water and the people who had fallen sick drank it. They got better immediately. It was like someone took away all their pain and sickness. "We performed a ritual that is hundreds of years old. We had no idea we were committing a crime. On the contrary, we believed that we were doing a good thing because the spirit of Petre was haunting us all and was very close to killing some of us. He came back from the dead and was after us."

"An uncle of mine died in 1992 and a few days after we buried him I started to feel very sick," he said. "The doctor had no idea what was wrong with me. One day, an aunt brought me a glass of water. I drank it all. I got well almost immediately. I only found out later that it was my dead uncle's ashes."

"When they had dragged the body out, they waited. Then, at the stroke of 12, Marinescu began the ritual that they had been planning for weeks, one that had passed from generation to generation in their family. They drove a pitchfork through Petre Toma's chest, opened it, drew out his heart and then put stakes through the rest of his body. They sprinkled garlic over the mutilated corpse and then, carefully, laid it back in its grave. They left the cemetery with the heart impaled on the end of the pitchfork and went to a crossroads where Marinescu's wife, son and daughter-in-law were waiting. There the group burnt it, dissolved the ashes and then drank the solution."

http://rense.com/general62/vamp.htm

Kool story about the ritual Liberator, thanks for sharing.

Liberator wrote:

Rin wrote: The slaying ritual of damaging/hurting the bodies would cause the sightings of the said dead person and the haunting complaints to immediately cease. So what do you make of this? Its how the myth or concept originated:

I understand the magick behind it.

When a mind dreams while their body is living or dead they enter hyperspace and travel somewhere relevent to predestiny in existence and then enter hypertime momentarily to interact with the body. Hypertime is a sped up time interaction field that allows for affecting the minds of others.

This would allow someone to appear in another's dream.

The damaging the body disrupts it because they are still connected to the body in their dreams(In a death coma) and it is giving them Earth's power to haunt or do good whatever they're doing.

Personally I was always curious of the ROS, but they have no way of finding information on them like the little information the AsetKa releases.