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Hi, I was wondering what is a godform, as far as that and other thought form go, and how one is created. Any info?

magari wrote:http://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/godform.html

That's possession magic, you're just going to get possessed by a demon. They've hidden most real magick on Earth and replaced it with magick that makes things worse for the Humans.

RaineAshford wrote:

magari wrote:http://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/godform.html

That's possession magic, you're just going to get possessed by a demon. They've hidden most real magick on Earth and replaced it with magick that makes things worse for the Humans.

Its the first link under the google search "Define: Godform"

You must be the expert on this since every other result has something to do with anime.

This forum is turning into a joke.

I have been gathering information on the esoteric, spiritualism, and the metaphysical for years now.
Slowly getting information on the subjects, and filtering through the gathered material eliminating the junk and forming it all into an understanding of the universe, and all that dictates law in such universe.
As well as forming theoretical, and experimental uses for the energies that makeup everything.
I am thankful for your input, but would like you to refrain from making comments that insult my intellect.
I simply need more information.
If I misread your post, I am deeply sorry.

magari wrote:http://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/godform.html

Good as that is, it's mostly an explanation of Invocation rather than explaining what a godform is, which is what I think the OP is asking about.

spiiritmaan56 wrote:Hi, I was wondering what is a godform, as far as that and other thought form go, and how one is created. Any info?

In the context you seem to be asking, this is mostly a subject of Chaos Magick, so you can learn a lot by delving into that subject of study and the resources involved.

How does an entity become a god? The very very short answer: Evolution.

The very short answer:

A natural deity is a sentient intelligence which governs a specific domain of Nature. Poseidon in any of his forms, for example, is the intelligent force which governs the domain of Sea. Any sea or ocean in the world, and everything within that domain, is under the influence and authority of Poseidon. How did he become the god of the seas? He evolved. Or rather, the energy and collective consciousness of the sea itself evolved into a single intelligence representing the collective, and that intelligence is therefore the god of that domain.

Younger, initially "artificial" godforms can be studied via the Ellis Project that DKMU initiated several years ago, which can be read about some in their book The Assault On Reality or Ellis: The Assault On Reality. They started out with a Sigil and a Servitor created from that Sigil. The initial goal was to use the Linking Sigil to create a "network" of energy, spirits, and people. By tagging the sigil on geographic locations of power (stonehenge, churches, etc), all of those locations will be tied together via this sigil, and thus all of that power can be used via this sigil. As the project expanded, the servitor evolved and changed. It took on an appearance it liked for itself (a spider or a red haired woman), it began acting on its own intelligence and volition, and very quickly the project grew beyond the control and influence of any of the creators: the unintelligent and artificially constructed "Linking Sigil" became the intelligent, sentient, spirited and alive Ellis, through a process of growth and evolution that is technically still occurring. It's a bit like building a program for a computer (which is the Servitor creation), and then the programmed AI evolves into its own independent life with its own talents, specialties, and domain of ownership. This, Ellis, is a Chaos Magick style "godform."

So yeah. As I said: Evolution.

The long answer would require a couple of books. [razz]



~:Shin:~

Shinichi wrote:

magari wrote:http://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/godform.html

Good as that is, it's mostly an explanation of Invocation rather than explaining what a godform is, which is what I think the OP is asking about.

spiiritmaan56 wrote:Hi, I was wondering what is a godform, as far as that and other thought form go, and how one is created. Any info?

In the context you seem to be asking, this is mostly a subject of Chaos Magick, so you can learn a lot by delving into that subject of study and the resources involved.

How does an entity become a god? The very very short answer: Evolution.

The very short answer:

A natural deity is a sentient intelligence which governs a specific domain of Nature. Poseidon in any of his forms, for example, is the intelligent force which governs the domain of Sea. Any sea or ocean in the world, and everything within that domain, is under the influence and authority of Poseidon. How did he become the god of the seas? He evolved. Or rather, the energy and collective consciousness of the sea itself evolved into a single intelligence representing the collective, and that intelligence is therefore the god of that domain.

Younger, initially "artificial" godforms can be studied via the Ellis Project that DKMU initiated several years ago, which can be read about some in their book The Assault On Reality or Ellis: The Assault On Reality. They started out with a Sigil and a Servitor created from that Sigil. The initial goal was to use the Linking Sigil to create a "network" of energy, spirits, and people. By tagging the sigil on geographic locations of power (stonehenge, churches, etc), all of those locations will be tied together via this sigil, and thus all of that power can be used via this sigil. As the project expanded, the servitor evolved and changed. It took on an appearance it liked for itself (a spider or a red haired woman), it began acting on its own intelligence and volition, and very quickly the project grew beyond the control and influence of any of the creators: the unintelligent and artificially constructed "Linking Sigil" became the intelligent, sentient, spirited and alive Ellis, through a process of growth and evolution that is technically still occurring. It's a bit like building a program for a computer (which is the Servitor creation), and then the programmed AI evolves into its own independent life with its own talents, specialties, and domain of ownership. This, Ellis, is a Chaos Magick style "godform."

So yeah. As I said: Evolution.

The long answer would require a couple of books. [razz]



~:Shin:~

Thanks, for this info. I might look into the subject a little further. [grin]

http://hermetic.com/osiris/godformsofneophyte.htm

Assumption of a godform, in it's classic Western sense, is best known as being from Hermetic Theurgy and most certainly is not Demon possession.

@RaineAshford: You need to stop popping up in threads you don't understand and claiming everything is demonic.

RaineAshford wrote:

magari wrote:http://hermetic.com/stavish/rituals/godform.html

That's possession magic, you're just going to get possessed by a demon. They've hidden most real magick on Earth and replaced it with magick that makes things worse for the Humans.

It's starting to get ridiculous and I cringe on your behalf when I see it. Please stop.

To the OP, there's actually a lot more information on this that is easily available online.

For instance, detailed background information:

http://ars-theurgica.org/

http://www.hermetics.org/theurgy1.html

Thanks.

No bother. [thumbup]