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Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:38 pm
by Haelos
So, I was toying with some ideas I've been having, and somehow in the process, I managed to create an extremely powerful protection circle / invocation of the Sun and its energies.
My ritual involved calling several powerful Gods and Goddesses to watch my circle, calling the essence of the Void around me, and filling myself with gold-colored energy while performing a simple mantra, also calling forth a God, by name. In total, 10 entities were used in this ritual. I imagine it was similar to a Heptagram ritual, from what little I really know of tGD and it's practices.
Within seconds of coloring my own energy, I momentarily perceived our universe from the perspective of the sun, before I was filled with so much heat I couldn't focus or even be inside anymore. I went outside in the snow and it felt like room temperature for a good 5 minutes.
My question is; What should have done with this energy?
I honestly just grounded it, because it was significantly more energy than I've ever worked with in my life, and I don't think I could have handled as much as I was calling in, had I continued the ritual.
I seriously took like five-ten minutes for the entire thing. Ancient Gods are not something to screw with.
As a side note, the ghosts (or other entities) I normally let live in my household are extremely, terribly quiet. It seems the banishing effect is as powerful as the solar invocation.
I'll be completely honest with you; This is power far beyond my level of understanding. I didn't think such a simple ritual would have such an intense effect, so quickly.
I don't want to put such power to waste by not using it, and I also don't want to wastefully use it.
Any assistance that you guys could offer would be greatly appreciated.
(For some reference, I have not worked through any of the other spheres, including the earth sphere (following Bardon's PME). I currently have a burning sensation in my upper gut [solar plexus-ish], as well as tightness and pain. It's going away with some applied healing, but not very quickly. I performed the ritual approximately 25 minutes ago, as of this typing.)
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:48 pm
by cyberdemon
Oh brilliant, solar power!
Experimentation is a good idea at this point. Point it to a plant or tree and see if you can manipulate its growth (have a control plant).
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:17 am
by corvidus
Impressive stuff! It's been awhile since I've felt any significant amount of heat after a ritual or meditation.
If it was me, being an alchemist at heart, I would make a solar tincture/fluid condenser and project all that energy into the tincture.
Or a lunar tincture, circulate, and see if I could fix the two together.
Or maybe into some other tool.
You could always share it with Mother Earth as well, but then I'd call you out for contributing to global warming

Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:23 am
by Sweetgum
Hi Haelos
It's good to see someone breaking new ground
Please do keep a Magical Diary and record your workings with as much detail as possible
Take photographs if you can
Your question is :-
"I momentarily perceived our universe from the perspective of the sun, before I was filled with so much heat I couldn't focus or even be inside anymore. I went outside in the snow and it felt like room temperature for a good 5 minutes
My question is; What should I have done with this energy?"
So, let me have a think
Firstly the energy came from you. It was not an outside manifestation
You instinctively felt that it came to serve you
I have no doubt it was a herald of change in some form
You're a nice person and this working was no strain to you
I've got a feeling that there was something in the background of your life to which this was a response
Are you responsible for the lives of others? A mother or a child perhaps
and were you a little concerned about this?
I believe you were being shown the power that resides inside you
The enormous reserves of strength that you carry was manifested so you could witness it
Fortune, emotional gain, and all-round success can be yours if you put yourself in the way of the oppression - if you shoulder the burden - that is needed or necessary to achieve it
A good marriage, a perfect home, happy children, love, friendship
all can be yours if YOU shoulder the burden. If YOU do the work, that it requires
And the blunt fact is that you have the resources within you to do just that
You've been shown them
So to the question "What should I have done with this energy"
the answer is that you should tailor your future workings to gaining control over it
so that you can call it up at will, in the degree determined by you
It is yours. You own it. Now you learn to handle it
Best wishes
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:55 pm
by Stukov
While I didn't use the same approach or methodology as you, you seem to describe something similar I discovered a few years back while I was following my own path. If it is the same, what I ended up trying, and seemed to work was like this.
First problem I had when pulling or connecting to my energy on the other side was I would get tingly and energetic while pulling down from about head down into the body. The major reaction I had to get over was my body starting to feel like I wanted to sneeze. My eyes would get watery, my nose would itch and tingle, and it just felt like a rush my body couldn't handle.
With the right breathing, focus, mindset you can press past this and prevent your body from sneezing, releasing the energy, as it passed down your head. When you prevent that blowout valve, you can start filling your whole body. I imagined flowing down some self chakra points up and down. Moving forward I could then pull more energy down.
At some point your body will fill up as well, getting really warm and possibly tense. I used arm and leg positioning to redirect the energy into a loop rather than leak out of the hands and feed chakra points. Pulling down more required a type of brain or mind attunement (doing some initially, but this goes further) I don't know how to describe it other than it feels like you are taking your brain and using a concentration similar to how you would try to fly or use powers in dreams. The initial one you do when you start like a meditation dials in your brain radio, but this one unlocks you for unlimited height (or enough to go further). The first one gets your feet off the ground a few feet this one takes you into space.
After doing that you get some more energy and the body will keep getting hotter and hotter. What I found, where I think you may have gotten is where do you go from there. What I did was pull pull pull and focus the energy in my heart and start to compress it. Take all the energy and smash it into a tiny little sphere inside you.
As you worked with the sun, think of it as taking the energy of a gas giant and adding more and more until the mass is enough to create a self ignition of a star.
If that works for you let me know and I'll describe where I went from there. Also at the time I was using the name online and writing about the character of Sol Invictus, rather than all the gods you used try using this as a mirror of yourself, as someone adopting the traits that Sol Invictus has (the idea of the unconquered Sun. If you aren't familiar I can type more.
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:29 pm
by RockDemon
If what Stukov says , and the Sol Invictus works for you, then you are lucky. Birthday of Sol Invictus is soon on December 25.
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:01 pm
by Haelos
A lot of good replies so far. I've been a bit too busy to get back here and add my own again.
@Corvidus, thanks a lot for this suggestion! I hadn't thought about using the energy to charge a fluid condenser. I didn't actually have any handy at the time, but I'll be making one soon to charge with solar energy. Probably use it in a wand or something; Who knows.
@sweetgum That's all good in theory, and in the long run, but coming up with a practical way of using that energy in the moment isn't as easy as you make it sound. I'll take what you said to heart, though.
@Stukov, The entity I invoked is actually a decent bit older than Sol Invictus. I wrote it down as Sol, to let you know it was the sun, but it wasn't Sol himself, or Helios. I never had the issues you talk about, like needing to sneeze. It all happened too quickly for me to feel such a thing. I was just immediately on fire, basically.
Out of curiosity, why did you choose your heart to focus this energy? I would have chosen my solar-plexus and guts, as that's where all the energy creation and storage is.
I'll practice storing the energy next time I perform the ritual. It was too much the first time, but performing it since then, it hasn't been as bad. I still need to ground most of the energy though..
@RockDemon, interesting you should mention that. I actually have something quite important planned for that day.
The 25th is also the next full moon in my area. Lucky me.
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:03 pm
by Haelos
Also, @Stukov; If Sol Invictus is the "Unconquered Sun", what exactly would be the "conquered Sun?"
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:26 am
by RockDemon
Haelos wrote:@RockDemon, interesting you should mention that. I actually have something quite important planned for that day.
The 25th is also the next full moon in my area. Lucky me.
Yeah , I know that feeling, you plan to do a ritual and everyhing seems to be so perfect as if the universe itself serves you
Haelos wrote:Also, @Stukov; If Sol Invictus is the "Unconquered Sun", what exactly would be the "conquered Sun?"
The sun swallowed by a green monster ?
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:13 pm
by Stukov
I didn't mean Sol Invictus as in literally our sun or whatever, meant more the idea behind the concept of the unconquered sun. The old story is that every night would start with the darkness winning, pushing back the sun, to the uneducated of ancient times the darkness would have been pretty scary, while humans would have fire, there were many manner of beasts that lurked at night, let alone the danger of the environment. So for these people the night was terrifying.
The story goes with night beating back the sun. However every night the sun would rise, unconquered. No matter how long or how dark, the sun would come again, because it was never fully defeated.
Where I go with this is the idea your inner light, and I don't mean the traditional light vs dark you see around here, I mean your inner energy vs non existence or whatever forces around you like night in the old story that push you down or try to diminish you - you can fight back, because if you imagine yourself like the unconquered sun, some dawn you shall return unconquered.
I guess you could say it's the idea of never giving up or giving in, looking inward for your strength rather than externally, because within you burns your own Sol Invictus..
However since my understanding was not accurate for your experiences it probably won't really apply.
I was using heart because the way I rather made my own Chakra like points it was more the center and a little more easily accessed, as anytime I felt adrenaline that energy had that association. So I could more easily access and store the energy as its pretty easy for me to concentrate and use the endocrine system to get the right feeling to tap into that, if that makes sense. Though in theory every point would be equally charged, just used the heart as the control valve I guess.
The conquered sun would look like anyone who gave up or gave into someone pressuring them into doing something they don't want to.
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:11 pm
by Haelos
Stukov wrote:I didn't mean Sol Invictus as in literally our sun or whatever, meant more the idea behind the concept of the unconquered sun. The old story is that every night would start with the darkness winning, pushing back the sun, to the uneducated of ancient times the darkness would have been pretty scary, while humans would have fire, there were many manner of beasts that lurked at night, let alone the danger of the environment. So for these people the night was terrifying.
The story goes with night beating back the sun. However every night the sun would rise, unconquered. No matter how long or how dark, the sun would come again, because it was never fully defeated.
Where I go with this is the idea your inner light, and I don't mean the traditional light vs dark you see around here, I mean your inner energy vs non existence or whatever forces around you like night in the old story that push you down or try to diminish you - you can fight back, because if you imagine yourself like the unconquered sun, some dawn you shall return unconquered.
I guess you could say it's the idea of never giving up or giving in, looking inward for your strength rather than externally, because within you burns your own Sol Invictus..
However since my understanding was not accurate for your experiences it probably won't really apply.
I was using heart because the way I rather made my own Chakra like points it was more the center and a little more easily accessed, as anytime I felt adrenaline that energy had that association. So I could more easily access and store the energy as its pretty easy for me to concentrate and use the endocrine system to get the right feeling to tap into that, if that makes sense. Though in theory every point would be equally charged, just used the heart as the control valve I guess.
The conquered sun would look like anyone who gave up or gave into someone pressuring them into doing something they don't want to.
I think I see what you're getting at now.
You're right that it doesn't particularly apply to this situation, but this is a valuable piece of text for me, nonetheless.
Yeah, the energy I called in was that of the Sun itself, and all associated deities or spirits. From what I understand of Bardon's writings, this is the kind of thing you would need to do if you were going to mentally journey to the sun sphere. You have to match its vibrational quality, and even Bardon states that this is one of the most difficult spheres to enter.
I had never invoked a planetary energy before, (besides Mercury and Luna, when working with Thoth), so I wasn't really ready for what I was happening. It also didn't help that I had no idea what my spell would do until I performed it.
Re: Invoking Sol; What to do with it?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:19 am
by Stukov
In that case, next time you do this or enter the sun, or any star really, become the sun. Change your essence to that of a star, be full of energy. A ball of gasses that should spread out and dissipate in space, but doesn't because there is so much of you your mass pulls the gasses in with tremendous force so great they fuse and explode or separate and explode. The heat and pressure are at the core of your essence, they fuel and sustain you. You are the sun.