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@the_spiral: I get it. To be more clearer, I never correlated nor cared about being exact with my wording. You don't subscribe to labeling anything as 'evil' or 'good', such as the object or noun in what you refer to as a mosquito. I get that. However, the act of draining energy, or the verb of the noun in this case the action of the mosquito draining energy from people, you label within a negative light, which to me in essence is calling the noun a negative being to us regardless if they are or not under a higher scope. That is what I wanted clarity on. So, to humans, if they are one of these attachments you are referring to they are bad. That is what I wanted to know.

So in reality, there is no correct answer here from what you are telling me. If you psychologically believe them to embody as something bad to you, then you should cleanse them according to you, regardless if that is the truth or not, and if not you should just observe. The problem here is that it is really subjective to me. When colonists first migrated to America, they killed off almost the entire wolf population. Their misguided altruistic belief lead to a overpopulation of deer and herbivores, that caused initial problems until checks and balances were put in place to curb the deficiency in the ecosystem. I worry that when someone gets treatment from spiritual healers like you, that you may be like one of those naive hunters who were taught in a certain mindset, who believe themselves to be helping, when in the long run, due to the very nature that you do not consider/lack the understanding of the entire system in question that you are effecting, you may be causing more problems than you realize. Sort of like most chiropractors. There are only a few who actually know what they are doing and can help their patients. The rest are lucky to not cause problems in the end and compound the problem at hand. It could be very well that these beings are draining a energy that needs to be drained such as misfortune and come to ailing people for a reason. I have noticed after reading over stories of what some call "Angels" and others call "Demons" for people who are taught under a religious mindset that they are in essence the same thing and most don't even realize it.

Thanks for the post. It taught me a few things and did indeed help. I am sure others have benefited from it as well. I look forward to the cleansing rituals if you ever get around to making them in case I ever need it.

@cyber: Thanks that was informative.

@Jazz: Thanks I like the approach.

Hmm, more false analogies, this time comparing basic protection work to mass slaughter. How interesting. Anyone who visits the astral planes can see for themselves exactly what this Work does and why it's needed. No semantic games necessary. And I never claimed to be a "spiritual healer", but I understand very (one could even say painfully) well my own place and the place of others like me in the spirit world. Thanks for your concern though. And it's interesting how hard you've tried to reframe my (perfectly clear) statements and draw people into irrelevant moral debates from your very first reply, all while assuming the fawning and flattering postures of an acolyte. That wasn't too subtle. Just as you did with those who offered advice on your other post, which is why I didn't bother to engage you there. And you certainly seem intent on discrediting our work for someone who claims to be a "complete novice." Who exactly am I speaking with right now, by the way? Answer carefully.

@cyberdemon - Maybe we could write the guide together? It might take a while though, unless my committee is willing to accept my OF ramblings as a dissertation [tongue]

the_spiral wrote:Maybe we could write the guide together? It might take a while though, unless my committee is willing to accept my OF ramblings as a dissertation [tongue]

I accept OF ramblings as dissertations!

cyberdemon wrote:

the_spiral wrote:Maybe we could write the guide together? It might take a while though, unless my committee is willing to accept my OF ramblings as a dissertation [tongue]

I accept OF ramblings as dissertations!

Ok, well I'll just appoint you to my committee and we'll get to work then [rofl]

@ the_spiral Who knows in the end. You know your place in everything? Include that in the guide, I’d love to read it. I do like analogies or parables though. If you want to know why, I like them because it is how higher level beings communicate according to all religious doctrine here on mother earth. We have to figure it out ourselves, as they say. Can’t be told now can we; that would be meaningless. We wouldn’t truly learn anything.

It’s like the character in the movie, ‘the sixth sense’ by Night Shyamalan, the plot centers on this young boy who can speak to dead people. One day the boy comes across a ghost who didn’t quite grasp that he is dead. The ghost even, in his own delusion, believed to truly be helping the young boy. The boy never judged though, regardless of how much ego this man flared. The boy was more terrified in all honesty. What a crazy scenario. It never crossed this ghosts mind until the end, within his delusional fantasy, that he was the one that needed saving. Even after all the hints. Perhaps we can all learn from moral lessons in life no matter what medium they come from.

You are correct though, I am no one worth listening to. Merely a novice. Nothing else. I’ll pass on attaching myself to any label besides that of a beginner. I feel that you aren’t grasping some things within my posts though. I had to re-read one of your posts to grasp something actually! Perhaps, by taking another look at some of mine when you get the chance will lead to a different conclusion in the end.

I apologize though for taking up your time if you feel that way and would like to thank you for taking the time to help others and to talk with me. I am sure we will run across each other more here on OF. Best of luck to you in school.

Lol ok, your polite condescension is noted. At least you've dropped the "I'm just an open-minded novice here to learn at your feet" act, it wasn't very convincing. I'll be happy to re-read your posts when I have time. I'd also encourage you to begin a practice of your own and actually explore some of the other realms before assuming nobody else knows what they're talking about in their own fields of practice. And yes, I'll be seeing you around OF. I hope you find the answers you seek regarding your schizophrenia/possession issues here. But since you've made it clear you don't feel healing is relevant to your concerns, I'll ask you to take your broader questions to another thread so this one remains on topic. Thanks and be well.