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hi it's me, reporting in.

something new came up. it smells like flowers in specific spots and it moves around. specific outdoor phenomenon in a certain area. no wind. appears 9pm+ at night. the scent itself is a hair away from actually smelling bad, but so far it's like a thick, powdery flowery scent. idk how to identify hiddens by smell but i reckon it's either an angel-type (or non-malicious djnn-type) demon, or a type of spirit.

send ideas

Sounds like a land-spirit.

Desecrated wrote:Sounds like a land-spirit.

sauce?

cyberdemon wrote:

Desecrated wrote:Sounds like a land-spirit.

sauce?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landv%C3%A6ttir

But you have similar spirits in most civilizations.

Desecrated wrote:

cyberdemon wrote:

Desecrated wrote:Sounds like a land-spirit.

sauce?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landv%C3%A6ttir

But you have similar spirits in most civilizations.

okay but in the middle of a city? can still correlate though.
anyway, gonna try to communicate with it. see ya!

cyberdemon wrote:
okay but in the middle of a city? can still correlate though.
anyway, gonna try to communicate with it. see ya!

Well yeah, cities are built on land too.
I highly recommend leaving some food and beer. That always seems to do the trick.

It's a piece of your Higher Self/internal twin flame

You don't have to give it anything

What is a spirit gonna do with beer?

Spirits don't even want people to drink beer!

Next wrote:It's a piece of your Higher Self/internal twin flame

You don't have to give it anything

What is a spirit gonna do with beer?

Spirits don't even want people to drink beer!

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you should say anything against it. Beer is made from grains and other products of the land, and is often quite "earthy" in its quality, making it an ideal vessel for an offering to a land/earth spirit. Offerings are not just about the medium that is used, but about the energies used as well. When offering Beer, you also offer some energy along with it. The beer, being a product of the land, is a good catalyst for these energies for a Land spirit, as well as the alcohol helping to transmute and hold the energy for periods of time (this is seen more readily with extracts that are used in magic/talismans/blessings, as most extracts are done with either alcohol or oil).
Also, it is a great sign of friendship and good will to share a beer with someone. I don't know what spirits you come into contact with, but most spirits don't care if you have a beer or not. It's actually quite traditional to leave alcohol as offerings to spirits.

Caerdon wrote:

Next wrote:It's a piece of your Higher Self/internal twin flame

You don't have to give it anything

What is a spirit gonna do with beer?

Spirits don't even want people to drink beer!

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you should say anything against it. Beer is made from grains and other products of the land, and is often quite "earthy" in its quality, making it an ideal vessel for an offering to a land/earth spirit. Offerings are not just about the medium that is used, but about the energies used as well. When offering Beer, you also offer some energy along with it. The beer, being a product of the land, is a good catalyst for these energies for a Land spirit, as well as the alcohol helping to transmute and hold the energy for periods of time (this is seen more readily with extracts that are used in magic/talismans/blessings, as most extracts are done with either alcohol or oil).
Also, it is a great sign of friendship and good will to share a beer with someone. I don't know what spirits you come into contact with, but most spirits don't care if you have a beer or not. It's actually quite traditional to leave alcohol as offerings to spirits.

Motumbá Àse,

I agree, from african lore to their diaspora and the natives of America (the whole, not just USA) are used to leave offerings of food and drinks, drinks from milk to beer, wines, etc. Earthly spirits like fermented type of drinks.

The offerings are like a "linguage", a code, to relate with the spirit.

As for "Higher Self" treatment, for the yoruban, Ori (our inner/higher self) needs to be attended just like any other Orisa. So, that statement that our higher self needs no offering might apply only to SOME western traditions, mostly the ones based on orientalism.

In Umbanda beer is offered to spirits of the Ogum family, black beer to the Xangô family, some exus and pombogiras drink beer as well.

Saravá