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Has anyone found a method of magick which works towards the end of physically altering reality right away in a beyond-human sense? This could be used for self-defense. Alternately, it could be interesting to see magicks which immediately alter mental states of those around you for the same end.

This is really just another curious musing. You could easily avoid the situation by lining up with divine will and such. You could also use common sense, train the body physically, learn mentalism / hypnosis / psychology / etc... but I'm interested how far anyone has gotten with these more fantastical methods.

I've never thought about it before. But basically, it would e the same method as using charms.
Trying to exude a really dangerous aura to deter other people is no different than trying to exude a beautiful energy to attract suitors.

I have jerks in my area who loves to tease and taunt for my clothes and coloured hair. For this reason I use a shield to 'banish their attention' for me. It works pretty well. The construct is the same as shields for psychic protection but it is imbued with energy the aforementioned purpose.

Napoli wrote:I have jerks in my area who loves to tease and taunt for my clothes and coloured hair. For this reason I use a shield to 'banish their attention' for me. It works pretty well. The construct is the same as shields for psychic protection but it is imbued with energy the aforementioned purpose.

Very interesting! Are you able to link me to a resource to learn how to do a shield?

Desecrated wrote:I've never thought about it before. But basically, it would e the same method as using charms.
Trying to exude a really dangerous aura to deter other people is no different than trying to exude a beautiful energy to attract suitors.

It's true that auras have immediate effects, that's a good insight. My s.o. just mentioned to me that advanced qi practitioners are able to create a ball of qi energy and can use that to dent metal telekinetically. I really don't know what to make of that.

Gate wrote:Are you able to link me to a resource to learn how to do a shield?

Yes, I do. Here you go.

https://www.thoughtco.com/grounding-cen ... ng-4122187

http://www.moragspinner.net/witch-skills-shielding/

Remember, shields can be made personal. Feel free to customise it with your imagination if it holds any meaning to you. You can draw inspiration from the articles from the above links and more for this.

It sounds like you're after something along the lines of martial qi gong/nei gong. These are systems of meditation designed to cultivate internal energy which can then be expressed in a combative situation, either to enhance a blow beyond what the body is physically capable of producing (relative to the physical strength expressed) or to defend oneself from harm beyond what the body is normally capable of enduring.

The internal martial arts (neijia - taichi, baguazhang, xingyi, etc) are all based around these principles, as are quite a few other schools of Eastern martial arts.

On the more ritualistic and esoteric end of the spectrum of these arts, there are practitioners who performs rituals or tattoo themselves with sigils to connect themselves to, or allow themselves to be possessed by, certain spirits or deities, for the purpose of enhancing their capabilities.

Alternately, it could be interesting to see magicks which immediately alter mental states of those around you for the same end.

This part I'm not so sure about beyond a theoretical sense. I know there are masters who claim to be able to pacify animals by projecting Qi, but I've never heard of this being reliably reproduced on humans (which would be difficult to verify, for obvious reasons). I do know that it is possible to alter mood using the projection of energy, having experienced it myself, but it's usually the result of prolonged exposure (ie. during a healing session, or a transmission), not a quick effect which could be used in some kind of defensive situation.

Finally, in the realms of more traditional Western Hermetics, Franz Bardon (in as much as he can be considered part of the realm of traditional Western Hermetics anyway) claims that it is possible to paralyze a person through a sufficiently powerful projection of the Earth element.

There is also a widely circulated story about a student of his using a Kabalistic formula to paralyze soldiers during an interrogation - although the formula wore off, after which they promptly shot him (or so the story goes). That said, beyond these, I've never heard of these feats being performed using these techniques from a reliable source.

For what it's worth - anything along these lines with practical application is going to take a lot of effort. The ability to fah-jin (emit force) in Taichi, for example, is generally said to require at least 10 - 20 years of solid training. Likewise, the ability to project the elemental energies to the level of producing such dramatic physical effects is probably going to require one to have spent a decade and more working through the entirety of Bardon's training program.

Thank you Rin, that was an awesome read.

I feel the irony of this situation is that after ten years getting so ethereal one may not even care to do something so dramatic in such a low plane - most likely a waste of energy. Still, I'm curious if there are any such warriors around who fight with spiritual enhancement. My guess would be the Shao Lin temples.

I've heard of monks teleporting, do you know anything about this?

Gate wrote:Thank you Rin, that was an awesome read.

I feel the irony of this situation is that after ten years getting so ethereal one may not even care to do something so dramatic in such a low plane - most likely a waste of energy. Still, I'm curious if there are any such warriors around who fight with spiritual enhancement. My guess would be the Shao Lin temples.

I've heard of monks teleporting, do you know anything about this?

Some things are hard to do in the physical plane. The magic we see in the media is not the reality. However, one can do some special things in the astral realm. Or that is what I have read (I have yet to astral travel). Levitation and other miraculous feats are not unheard of. If you ask me then I will say that some of those stories are possible. But not just by any people. They very advanced magus who can do it. However, since there is not sufficient evidence for it, it is hard to believe that it is possible.

Gate wrote:Thank you Rin, that was an awesome read.

I feel the irony of this situation is that after ten years getting so ethereal one may not even care to do something so dramatic in such a low plane - most likely a waste of energy. Still, I'm curious if there are any such warriors around who fight with spiritual enhancement. My guess would be the Shao Lin temples.

I've heard of monks teleporting, do you know anything about this?

It depends on the individual I suppose - I would think that someone who was inclined to abuse such abilities is unlikely to undergo the decades of dedicated meditation and training required to attain it (and of course finding someone willing to teach them), when they can just go out and grab a gun or knife instead. There are accounts of such abilities being abused of course, as with any form of power, but it seems to be the exception rather than the norm.

As to how frequently it gets used, my guess would be not a lot. It was one thing in medieval Asia when wandering monks or hermits had to worry about bandits and robbers and whatnot, but another thing entirely in this day and age, especially with the advent of firearms. There are cases where practitioners are attacked and have to defend themselves (a lot of stories came out of the Cultural Revolution of monks defending themselves against the Red Guards, but you'd have to decide for yourself which are real and which are concocted), but they're rare, especially in the first world or urban areas.

As for Shaolin - I don't know a lot about it, but from what I'm told it's mostly a tourist trap these days - the same is said of most of the "big name" temples, that they were mostly ransacked during the cultural revolution, the monks who survived scattered into hiding or left China, and when the temples were revived they were populated by party-affiliated monks with little or no genuine training (some of whom allegedly simply work there as a day job for tourists).

There are some apparently genuine masters who trace their lineage back to pre-Cultural Revolution Shaolin (Jiang Feng comes to mind, I believe it is claimed that his master trained at Shaolin, but as both Master Jiang and his own master are now deceased, it's a bit hard to verify the claim), but I don't think you'll find much in terms of genuine cultivation there these days.

As for teleporting - nothing even remotely reliable. I've read accounts of masters practicing bilocation (presumably through condensing the astral body to make it physically visible?), but the only relatively modern one is Stylianos Atteshlis (although he wasn't a monk) - there is an account of him bi-locating in The Magus of Strovolos, from memory.

Wow, thanks Rin! That was a really interesting read. So much to look into.

I feel like anything is possible. It probably just takes a LOT of time, effort, & training to create such these uncommon abilities. Probably some channeled info too.

Yeah, dedicated training is a given if you want results, no matter which aspect of the spiritual path you're looking at. You get out what you put in :p

There is an entire class of Martial Arts that utilize esoteric skills in order to augment physical skills, producing all kinds of wonderous abilities from mind games and illusions to intimidating people or turning (kinda) invisible by altering the aura to more physical based skills like Fa Jin and Qing Gong.

There is also an entire class of Magick that deals exclusively with military spellcraft and martial magick.

Some things for you to read would be Ars Anima Gladius, Occult Swordplay, and the Tai Chi Classics.

Military Magick is really a lot simpler than most might think, especially on a micro (direct fighting) scale, but it has the prerequisite that you be good at both magick and fighting. If you suck as a warrior and you suck as a magician, then you have no business trying to be a warrior magician. It is not, by any measure at all, a beginners topic. It is not a topic for everyone advanced either, because not everyone is a warrior. Not everyone can handle the pressure and trauma of actual warfare. It is War Magick, not Sport Magick.



~:Shin:~