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Re: How the world really works

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:22 pm
by Dreayz
Amor wrote: Sat May 07, 2022 9:27 pm After you have tried the experiment it may be possible to do something.
It's not possible, can you try ejecting the controller ground pick Ive alloited and doing the heart exercize he just did or a smilar usage of the system.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:15 pm
by Amor
I will not help those that will not exercise their own authority

Also it is important to write so that both parties understand what is the communication

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:38 pm
by Dreayz
Amor wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:15 pm I will not help those that will not exercise their own authority

Also it is important to write so that both parties understand what is the communication
Still having problems.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:50 pm
by OneOfFourth
Amor wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:41 am You must do this for yourself. Does part of you still want what you were dreaming/hoping for?

Visualize a dark entity on the front of your heart. Send it light from your Flame and require it to show you its light.

What happens?
Doesn't that basically create a permanent bond between the one sending their heart energy and potentially unknown adverse entity/human? To me that sounds like a highly risky and dangerous thing to do which might open up powerful ways and techniques of oppression using spiritual abilities.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:17 am
by Amor
>Doesn't that basically create a permanent bond between the one sending their heart energy and potentially unknown adverse entity/human?

Depending upon the human sender, the light from the heart is from a profound level of the cosmos.

It is the experience of myself and others, that the light from the heart resets the light-dark balance in the target.

Try if for yourself

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:44 pm
by OneOfFourth
Amor wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:17 am >Doesn't that basically create a permanent bond between the one sending their heart energy and potentially unknown adverse entity/human?

Depending upon the human sender, the light from the heart is from a profound level of the cosmos.

It is the experience of myself and others, that the light from the heart resets the light-dark balance in the target.
So that's a "yes" then?

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:03 pm
by Amor
Light from the heart usually resets adverse relationships - unless the entity is too afraid of its supervisor

As the Beatles sang : all you need is love

That is a slight exaggeration but close enough for most situations

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:15 am
by OneOfFourth
To me it seems that every single time an entity has approached me, it has been an adverse entity and it was sent by humans. The main thing the entities (or rather the humans who sent those spirits my way) wanted to gain access to me in very imaginative ways. The main common denominator with those approaches was that I was supposed to give them access to some part of myself or to send/give some specific thing to them from myself so they could help (i.e gain access to my soul/mind/will to install adverse commands). By doing that I would have given them a way to oppress me.

Because of that I highly recommend against anyone doing anything like that with any spirit or person, ever.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:21 am
by Amor
OneOfFourth wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:15 am Because of that I highly recommend against anyone doing anything like that with any spirit or person, ever.
That might be appropriate in your case, but most of the people I encounter wish to deal with their spirit problems

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:49 am
by OneOfFourth
Absolutely, but that's not the way to deal with a spirit or rather with the people who send those spirits to their victims. Everything in my experience seems to point to the direction of spirits following rules and nothing more, nothing less. No amount of energy sending and will power use will get rid of them permanently if at all. As far as I'm aware, all spirits come to you because of what rules have been set/written to you (or your "soul"). Attacks towards people are implemented by an adverse human manipulating (with spiritual abilities) their victim into accepting an adverse rule into their mind/will/soul. This can be done by simply commanding the victim's soul/mind/will to do something, such as "You suffer" or "You don't find the truths" or "You get oppressed" or "You invite illnesses", or the most common and one of the first things usually installed into people "You believe in my lies".

Now the "spirits" come and start working according to the rules commanded into the victim's "soul". So basically it seems that "spirits" are more or less just the command/intention written in the victim's soul and everything in the universe working to make that rule happen in practise. So "spirit" is basically just an illusion people have about more than one thing working in conjunction.

In other words: spirits don't care about opinions, energies, love or anything at all. They work purely according to the rules/commands written in the soul. Only humans care about energies they can receive from other people etc. Not any of the spirits do that, ever, unless a human has instructed the "spirit" to get those energies/accesses from their victims so the adverse person can gain much more powerful hold on their victim.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:50 am
by Amor
> it seems that "spirits" are more or less just the command/intention written in the victim's soul and everything in the universe working to make that rule happen in practise.

Humans do like to think that they are the center of this universe but it is not so.

So how to test your proposition?

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:48 am
by OneOfFourth
Amor wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:50 am > it seems that "spirits" are more or less just the command/intention written in the victim's soul and everything in the universe working to make that rule happen in practise.

Humans do like to think that they are the center of this universe but it is not so.

So how to test your proposition?
By looking at the large number of people on social media sites asking for help: they describe that they did just what I warned against doing here. Once they did what they did, they instantly got oppressed and are now in lots of distress because they can't figure a way out.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:54 am
by Amor
That is not a test of your proposition. You merely point out that unskilled unrefined humans can get into trouble on all of the human planes.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:35 am
by OneOfFourth
Amor wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:54 am That is not a test of your proposition. You merely point out that unskilled unrefined humans can get into trouble on all of the human planes.
I'm pointing out that they gave or did something the entity asked them to do. The result has usually been that they encountered oppression which was instantly out of their control.

The most common themes the victims tell about seem to follow this script:
- Originally the victim might or might not be in some kind of trouble already.
- Suddenly some entity/person contacts the victim by communicating directly in his/her mind.
- The entity/person wants to tell the victim something important or help the victim out but for one reason or another it cannot be done yet.
- To fix things, the victim is instructed (by that someone/something) to open access to the victim or to give something to the entity/person.
- This is mandatory to "take the victim's mind over the mental/spiritual threshold" so the victim can sense/learn/see/etc. whatever it is the entity/person wants to help the victim with.
- Alternatively some other similar action is required to activate something or make something happen. Anything goes as long as the victim gives access or in-direct access to his/her "resources" which opens up new doors for the oppressors.
- At this point the victim usually wants some proof of the persons/entitys existence.
- The victim is told that it cannot be done because the person/entity is in a parallel reality or in another time or timeline or is the victim's own soul or dead relative etc. Anything goes which prevents the use of internet e-mail, real life meeting, phone call, text message, etc. from working as a proof of the validity of the entitys/person's true identity.
- Eventually the needs/curiosity of the victim wins and the victim does what the entity/person asks the victim to do.
- Now the victim starts experiencing non-stop oppression.

Almost always the victims experience some spiritual abilities in action either in the form of things happening to them, or them being able to perform some magick themselves. For example common theme seems to be synchronizities being used to make things happen to the victims, which makes them believe they're experiencing several different realities at the same time, or that angels/entities/God/whatever is speaking to them through the environment, or that unexplainable coincidences are happening to them because of the previously mentioned things are doing it to the victim. The stories range from fantasy settings, to religious experiences, to sci-fi stories, to horror stories, to supernatural stories.

To make things much more convincing, false memories of past experiences and past/parallel lives are implanted into the victim's mind. This is usually done with the command/suggestion to the victim's mind/soul/will that he/she should believe the oppressors lies. Now the victim doesn't suspect anything since he/she has clear memories of important events happening: that's all the proof he/she needs. This makes the victims careless as they believe they know what they know and that there's no danger to their future actions. This is what eventually deceives the victims into doing something that gives the real access to the victim's mind/soul/will which makes the oppressive situation permanent and nearly unescapeable for the victims: the victims were convinced they knew what they were doing, but were deceived into believing so.

Some form of sensory input manipulation is also at play usually. The victims tell about their experiences seeing/feeling/hearing/etc. about all sorts of convincing things in their minds eye. I think that sometimes that can be a real thing they're sensing, but the same "ability" is being used to also feed false information/experiences to the victims.

Judging by the OPs story in this thread, he is experiencing a textbook case of this kind of scam. The story fits 100% what the other victims are telling. Based on my personal analysis, research and what people have been telling about their experiences in similar situations, here's my diagnosis of OPs real situation:

His "system was hacked" by the exact same people who brought all of those experiences to him in the first place. They are still fully controlling his experiences and events he has regarding this topic, playing the long game, making him falsely believe he originally had anykind of control over the "system" he's been using and trying to regain access to this whole time. All his successes and communication is implemented by those scammers themselves. OP is communicating with something the scammers implemented into the OPs mind, which has been instructed to slowly but surely deceive him towards doing what the scammers want, from where there is no turning back. In other words: OP is not in trouble, but he will be if he continues to believe what he has been made to think and believe by the covertly working oppressor(s).

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:29 am
by Amor
OneOfFourth wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:35 am I'm pointing out that they gave or did something the entity asked them to do.
I would advise a range of experimental tests before doing that.

Meanwhile the light from the heart transcends the human personality and is rather effective at restructuring relationships with adverse entities. Try it for yourself

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm
by Dreayz
I've lost control of one of the rolesets i had (system), I need help setting it as okay. Can one of you say YES or think yes to me settingmy rolesetting back.

Re: How the world really works

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:24 pm
by Amor
>think yes to me settingmy rolesetting back

Perhaps you could give some more detail as to what you wish intended for you. Not all permissions are wise