CC Zain 'Egyptian' deck

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CC Zain 'Egyptian' deck

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I don't know if this is the right folder for this particular question - it's tarot related but I'm using the cards more specifically for symbolic study and meditation.

My question - I noticed a lot of usage by various tarot students of the CC Zain White Brotherhood of Light Egyptian Tarot and admittedly I liked the design of the major arcana as well as the degree to which the images reflected those of Marseilles, Rider-Waite, BOTA, etc. - I already have the Universal Waite and the Thoth so I decided to get something with a different flavor.

What I noticed real quickly; there's something very different about the Hebrew letter allocations - pretty much no relation to Sefir Yetzirah with the letters and the elements/planets/zodiac. The colors that were used in the renovated deck were unrelated to the Golden dawn scales and didn't follow any sort of schema when I arranged either the planets or the signs of the zodiac in any way I could come up with.The thing he did consistently at least with the minor arcana was kept the signs related to each element together albeit he decided to make swords earth and coins air (YHHV I suppose). The pips (1-10) of each minor suite match the color, per key, of the first ten of the major arcana however when you try to figure out what he'd be doing with a base ten you realize that none of the attributions of the first ten cards have congruency with sephira (it would be fair if these were all planets but it's a mixed blend of planets and signs).

Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about the Church of Light but as far as I can tell - if they take Zain's deck seriously - have a very different way of doing their pathworking and alchemy than anything Golden Dawn related.

Has anyone else looked at this deck before and, if so, were you able to make any Qabalistic sense of it?
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Re: CC Zain 'Egyptian' deck

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http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/br ... -egyptian/

There are reviews on this site,though I don't know if they will be helpful.

It looks like a nicely designed deck to me and I find it interesting that it was originally produced in black and white,perhaps that is of some relevance to your question?
I can't help much with this query,though, as I have no interest in Golden Dawn and I don't work from a paradigm that is WMT related,but I am going to look at the deck some more as it is very intriguing,as is your question about it.

I found a link for the BOL on this page [but there is a pop up that annoyed me on it too...]

http://green-door.narod.ru/zaintarot.html
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Nahemah wrote: I found a link for the BOL on this page [but there is a pop up that annoyed me on it too...]

http://green-door.narod.ru/zaintarot.html
Yeah, I saw that too - both the sight and the pop up, got the fear of computer-HIV though and left promptly.

Funny you should list aeclectic.net, I was researching there last night and I did just order another deck, did some looking around and for a more Levi-traditional 'Magician on Aleph' set I really liked the the Oswald Wirth as I liked that it's retains the Marseilles purity with a few minor cleanups:
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/oswald-wirth/

Another note to the above deck, I found out that there was a Martinist author who wrote a pathworking on this deck or any Aleph for Magician/Shin for Fool set. I'll be fascinated to see how they do their pathworking in that regard because while I've had the Case/Waite/Knight outlook pounded into me for most of my reading that the Fool needs to be Aleph I reviewed what happened if all the keys between Magician and Judgement shift down one - in a lot of places it seems to make even better pathworking sense (at least superficially) with one glaring oddity of Key 15: The Devil ending up on the center path between Tiphareth and Yesod.

The Masonic Tarot had mouth-watering detail and meditation symbols as well but it's also close to $100 most of the time - perhaps a later date for that one:
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/masonic/
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