Complex Barriers
- lupenthewolf
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Complex Barriers
I have been working with spiritual barriers for many years now and I've gained some proficiency with them, but my barriers are still very simple. Although quite strong they typically only use one or two elemental energies, if any, and they require constant maintenance to keep them stable. I've tried using a physical anchor to stabilize them for longer periods, but with little success. Also I didn't learn how to make barriers from any particular person/book, I started doing it almost instinctively as a way to protect myself from nasty spirits. Possibly because of this I've had trouble adapting to other methods; they just don't "feel" right, you know?
If anyone has some advice on how to make my barriers more complex/ more stable I'd appreciate your help. Thanks [grin]
If anyone has some advice on how to make my barriers more complex/ more stable I'd appreciate your help. Thanks [grin]
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Re: Complex Barriers
Have you tried assigning a servitor the task?"
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there is no need to push the river... it will flow on its own
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Re: Complex Barriers
A very good suggestion.
There are numerous books and resources out there that focus on servitor creation that will be able to create a familiar to do this for you. They will do the job far greater than creating an object to do the barrier work.
There are numerous books and resources out there that focus on servitor creation that will be able to create a familiar to do this for you. They will do the job far greater than creating an object to do the barrier work.
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Re: Complex Barriers
I've heard of servitors, but I'm unclear as to what they are and what they do/are capable of. Perhaps someone could explain a little bit? I'll certainly look into it myself, but seeing as I've seen it mentioned here before I figure someone here would be able to tell me more.
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Re: Complex Barriers
There is a link to a free PDF on the subject. I cant remember what thread it is in. I'm guessing someone will post it soon. Patience.
Oop.. I found it...
http://cleaves.zapto.org/news/attachmen ... tities.pdf
Oop.. I found it...
http://cleaves.zapto.org/news/attachmen ... tities.pdf
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there is no need to push the river... it will flow on its own
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Re: Complex Barriers
Thank you for the link, it should prove very informative. Once I learn a bit more I'll give a servitor a try, maybe for a small barrier.
Any tips that might help me? There's always something the books don't say. [rolleyes]
Any tips that might help me? There's always something the books don't say. [rolleyes]
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Re: Complex Barriers
There is much that books don't say. That is what is gained from contemplation and reflection after careful reading.lupenthewolf wrote:Thank you for the link, it should prove very informative. Once I learn a bit more I'll give a servitor a try, maybe for a small barrier.
Any tips that might help me? There's always something the books don't say. [rolleyes]
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Re: Complex Barriers
I realize this manonthepath, but it never hurts to seek more information. I firmly believe that one should pursue as much information from as many sources as possible before beginning any kind of magickal practice. [geek] I realize that that can take a great deal of time, but I don't like to rush into anything, especially where magick is concerned.
I appreciate all your help, everyone. I'm currently researching servitors and will let you know how it goes. [thumbup]
I appreciate all your help, everyone. I'm currently researching servitors and will let you know how it goes. [thumbup]
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Re: Complex Barriers
Are you just using energy or binding that energy to any objects?
Have you tried anything like hot foot powder?
Are the objects you're using temporarily. like writing signs on paper. Try carving it in wood.
Complex for me often means more then one layer. A sort of plan B in case plan A fails.
First: Object in iron/metal/wood that stays still until you want it removed.
Second: Some sort of paper or symbol that gets renewed from time to time, every new moon or something like that.
Third: Energy/wish/prayer/magick that is performed daily or at least regularly.
Have you tried anything like hot foot powder?
Are the objects you're using temporarily. like writing signs on paper. Try carving it in wood.
Complex for me often means more then one layer. A sort of plan B in case plan A fails.
First: Object in iron/metal/wood that stays still until you want it removed.
Second: Some sort of paper or symbol that gets renewed from time to time, every new moon or something like that.
Third: Energy/wish/prayer/magick that is performed daily or at least regularly.
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Re: Complex Barriers
Strengthen your focus/concentration/power with mind techniques, positive thinking, meditation, visualizations.
Even the most simple air circle can theoretically hold back a lot, if it is cast by an experienced magician.
Even the most simple air circle can theoretically hold back a lot, if it is cast by an experienced magician.
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Re: Complex Barriers
As I said in my opening post, I've only had limited success attaching the barriers to objects. If it works they do last much longer, but they are simultaneously much weaker than my normal barriers. Most of the time my barriers are just made using energy. The barriers on myself are constantly maintained by my subconscious, it's the barriers on my room that I'm worried about.
What do you mean "hot foot powder?" [confused]
What do you mean "hot foot powder?" [confused]
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Re: Complex Barriers
All it takes is practice to get better at it. You seem to have the basics down. Once you learn to attach things well - you'd be surprised at what you can do with them.
That and a power source to generate the energy to keep the shields running.
That and a power source to generate the energy to keep the shields running.
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Re: Complex Barriers
I had been working on alternative power sources before I posted, just hadn't gotten far with it yet. I'll continue to work on attaching and energy sourcing methods as I research servitors.
I thought you might like to know that I've saved that pdf, it's remarkably detailed yet easy to understand. Thank you manofsands, I've found it to be very informative and helpful. I was wondering if anyone knew of any other books on servitors I could look for? I'd like to keep looking at it as an option.
Again, thank you for all your help. I'm happy to have found such an open and helpful community. [grin] [thumbup]
I thought you might like to know that I've saved that pdf, it's remarkably detailed yet easy to understand. Thank you manofsands, I've found it to be very informative and helpful. I was wondering if anyone knew of any other books on servitors I could look for? I'd like to keep looking at it as an option.
Again, thank you for all your help. I'm happy to have found such an open and helpful community. [grin] [thumbup]
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Re: Complex Barriers
Then I would keep training to attach energy to objects. But also keep training on strengthening your energy. A really good banishing ritual can keep negative energy out for a while even without barriers.lupenthewolf wrote:As I said in my opening post, I've only had limited success attaching the barriers to objects. If it works they do last much longer, but they are simultaneously much weaker than my normal barriers. Most of the time my barriers are just made using energy. The barriers on myself are constantly maintained by my subconscious, it's the barriers on my room that I'm worried about.
What do you mean "hot foot powder?" [confused]
A bacteria needs to attach itself to it's host first. If there is nothing to attach to, it just passes by.
Negative energy needs other negative energy to stay. clean out all the negative energy first.
Hot foot powder is a voodoo tradition, but you'll find it in witchcraft as well. It's basically a barrier using herbs or spices.
Pouring a line of salt between the window and the window frame makes it harder for things to get in.
"cayenne pepper, and usually other ingredients such as sulfur, black pepper, graveyard dirt, bluestone, gunpowder or salt."
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Re: Complex Barriers
Unfortunately due to my wide spectrum of allergies I think hot foot powder is not possible for me. Thanks for the advice on banishing rituals, I think something like that probably would help. I'll have to look for one as I don't actually know any. 

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Re: Complex Barriers
If you want to lay a barrier around an area, you could try crunching old brick into crumbs and powder and mixing it with salt, cayenne powder and cinnamon. If you put enough mojo into it this will stop some pretty heavy shit for years. Just make sure the inside of your [yay] perimeter is clean before you close the circle!
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Re: Complex Barriers
Since it came up,.. may I ask those who mentioned it to elaborate of attaching energy to an object and methods they have had success with and in which situations you would choose to do so.
Thanx
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Re: Complex Barriers
Yes please. Some examples and methods would probably help. I'm still having limited success with attaching energy to things.
Also I would like some more information on servitors, could anyone point me towards some good reading material on the subject?
Thanks, I really appreciate the help you've all provided [smile]
Also I would like some more information on servitors, could anyone point me towards some good reading material on the subject?
Thanks, I really appreciate the help you've all provided [smile]
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Re: Complex Barriers
A decent introduction on familiar creation would be http://www.amazon.co.uk/Familiar-Spirit ... 0738704210
Read the comments for a detailed go over, unfortunately im kinda time limited this week for forums.
Read the comments for a detailed go over, unfortunately im kinda time limited this week for forums.
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Re: Complex Barriers
Thank you Sypheara, I'll look into getting it when I have the $ to spare.
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