Original post: messiah of sin
varg virkernes is the marilyn manson of europe, and that is a big ass compliment from me. he's in prison for murder and arson. the murder was for killing a pussy that was trying to kill him. the arson was for burning churches, and i appluad that cause christianity is the enemy, they have been oppressing us, and i mean all occultists not just satanists, as long as they've been around.
anyway man varg is a kickass writter and a pagan, you should read his work on paganism.
http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/paganism01.shtml
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
And I thought Norwegians only enjoyed skiing and fjord sailing!
Though is this Varg the conqueror really like Marilyn Manson, isn't Manson non-violent?
More like Charlie Manson perhaps??
And I thought Norwegians only enjoyed skiing and fjord sailing!
Though is this Varg the conqueror really like Marilyn Manson, isn't Manson non-violent?
More like Charlie Manson perhaps??
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Original post: Azakel
It seem to me like your just a sick fuck like him. One, Marilyn Manson wouldn't kill anyone or burn down a Church. The only reason why Christianity suppress you is because you let it out, stop play this fucking balm game, it show that you have a sign of weakness and to feel strong about self you must go out and blame other for shit. Okay grow up and take responsibility for yourself, think about this, ALL Religions have kill people and suppressed people for not believe what they did. NO religion is safe from that and all are Guilty.
It seem to me like your just a sick fuck like him. One, Marilyn Manson wouldn't kill anyone or burn down a Church. The only reason why Christianity suppress you is because you let it out, stop play this fucking balm game, it show that you have a sign of weakness and to feel strong about self you must go out and blame other for shit. Okay grow up and take responsibility for yourself, think about this, ALL Religions have kill people and suppressed people for not believe what they did. NO religion is safe from that and all are Guilty.
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Original post: messiah of sin
to the first dude, charlie manson didn't kill in self defense and varg did, marilyn manson would kill someone if they were trying to kill him, read his book he's tried to commit murder twice
to the second dude, damn ive only been here a few minutes and theres already an asshole, so im a sick fuck eh, sure your not a christian?
you think manson would never burn down a church? manson hates christianity. read anthing he's written or watch any interview with him.
tell me the name of someone persecuted and killed by satanism.
to the first dude, charlie manson didn't kill in self defense and varg did, marilyn manson would kill someone if they were trying to kill him, read his book he's tried to commit murder twice
to the second dude, damn ive only been here a few minutes and theres already an asshole, so im a sick fuck eh, sure your not a christian?
you think manson would never burn down a church? manson hates christianity. read anthing he's written or watch any interview with him.
tell me the name of someone persecuted and killed by satanism.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
Well I had the unique pleasure of reading that link on Burzum. I wonder if he was trying to shock people into examining the less palatable aspects of european paganism or whether he considers these views to be a purist view of paganism? In the same vein, please examine this quote from the link:
He goes on to describe the various races, which was interesting that a god created, I'm happy to say I'm a "Karl" as I have light brown hair and blue eyes but still not a Eirliar. Apparently my eyes allow me to enter Valhalla, so that's a bonus!
I'd just like to point out that my avatar is a portrait of the great Finnish hero and sometimes Nazi ally and Society slayer Count Carl Gustav Mannerheim who would be allowed into Valhalla and would kick everyone's ass to kingdom come therein.
Well I had the unique pleasure of reading that link on Burzum. I wonder if he was trying to shock people into examining the less palatable aspects of european paganism or whether he considers these views to be a purist view of paganism? In the same vein, please examine this quote from the link:
I think these "Pagans" should instead realize that they are not Pagans at all, but - like I said - just a bunch of Christians. You cannot be Pagan and anti-racist. You cannot be Pagan and homosexual or even tolerate homosexuality. You cannot be a Pagan and not want to have only as racially healthy children as possible. You cannot be a Pagan and believe in "free love". You cannot be a Pagan and at the same time be what Christians call a "humanist".
He goes on to describe the various races, which was interesting that a god created, I'm happy to say I'm a "Karl" as I have light brown hair and blue eyes but still not a Eirliar. Apparently my eyes allow me to enter Valhalla, so that's a bonus!
I'd just like to point out that my avatar is a portrait of the great Finnish hero and sometimes Nazi ally and Society slayer Count Carl Gustav Mannerheim who would be allowed into Valhalla and would kick everyone's ass to kingdom come therein.
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Original post: messiah of sin
i'm a laveyan satanist, not an odinist like he is, i just love his work
i'm a laveyan satanist, not an odinist like he is, i just love his work
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
I mean, you say he killed in self-defense but clearly the courts didn't think so, I guess that's just your biased opinion or is it based on any other fact then Varg the Slayer claimed it to be true and you believe everything your Nordic hero states?
messiah of sin;259130 wrote:to the first dude, charlie manson didn't kill in self defense and varg did, marilyn manson would kill someone if they were trying to kill him, read his book he's tried to commit murder twice
to the second dude, damn ive only been here a few minutes and theres already an asshole, so im a sick fuck eh, sure your not a christian?
you think manson would never burn down a church? manson hates christianity. read anthing he's written or watch any interview with him.
tell me the name of someone persecuted and killed by satanism.
I mean, you say he killed in self-defense but clearly the courts didn't think so, I guess that's just your biased opinion or is it based on any other fact then Varg the Slayer claimed it to be true and you believe everything your Nordic hero states?
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
No arguments there I enjoyed briefly reading your link as it had interesting etymologies for words we take for granted and an alternative slant on history and I do love european mythology, especially germanic/celtic ones.
messiah of sin;259133 wrote:i'm a laveyan satanist, not an odinist like he is, i just love his work
No arguments there I enjoyed briefly reading your link as it had interesting etymologies for words we take for granted and an alternative slant on history and I do love european mythology, especially germanic/celtic ones.
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Original post: messiah of sin
it's just my biased opinion, i don't believe everything varg says cause theres some shit i dont agree with him on, mainly anton lavey
now marilyn manson, i'd probably believe anything he said. just being honest.
dude you remind me of my grandfatherI mean, you say he killed in self-defense but clearly the courts didn't think so, I guess that's just your biased opinion or is it based on any other fact then Varg the Slayer claimed it to be true and you believe everything your Nordic hero states?
it's just my biased opinion, i don't believe everything varg says cause theres some shit i dont agree with him on, mainly anton lavey
now marilyn manson, i'd probably believe anything he said. just being honest.
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Original post: Azakel
I retract my first post sorry about that, but I find people who hate on a religion when all the no is the bad SHIT about and nothing else it does piss me off. And what would it matter if I was Christian or not, that has nothing to do with this, believe it or not there ARE Christian Occultist, don't judge every one because of some of the fucked up one out there. You say your a Laveyan Satanist, some of the thing you say are totally different then some other I know. It be like me Judging Satanic One on here(hope it's okay to use you here), for thing you believe.
But I still go by one thing I said though:
I retract my first post sorry about that, but I find people who hate on a religion when all the no is the bad SHIT about and nothing else it does piss me off. And what would it matter if I was Christian or not, that has nothing to do with this, believe it or not there ARE Christian Occultist, don't judge every one because of some of the fucked up one out there. You say your a Laveyan Satanist, some of the thing you say are totally different then some other I know. It be like me Judging Satanic One on here(hope it's okay to use you here), for thing you believe.
But I still go by one thing I said though:
Change something though.The only reason why ANY Religion suppress you is because you let it out, stop play this blame game, it show that you have a sign of weakness and to feel strong about self you must go out and blame other for shit. Okay grow up and take responsibility for yourself, think about this, ALL Religions have killed people and suppressed people for not believe what they did. NO religion is safe from that and all are Guilty.
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Original post: messiah of sin
I've read a lot of the Christian bible. And I fucking hated it it. I gave it a chance, just cause i'm a pissed off person doesn't mean I'm closed minded. When I was a little kid I used to have to go to church and be an acolyte, after i carried their pathetic torch for them i had to listen to this asshole priest give these biggoted sermons. and i've met a hell of a lot of judeo-christians. theres one or two open minded ones. but most are all the same, my enemies.
I've read a lot of the Christian bible. And I fucking hated it it. I gave it a chance, just cause i'm a pissed off person doesn't mean I'm closed minded. When I was a little kid I used to have to go to church and be an acolyte, after i carried their pathetic torch for them i had to listen to this asshole priest give these biggoted sermons. and i've met a hell of a lot of judeo-christians. theres one or two open minded ones. but most are all the same, my enemies.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
You're lucky you have such an intelligent and well read grandad!
As for your other statements, I accept what you say, I'm not shit bagging you, enjoy your time here on OF!
messiah of sin;259140 wrote:dude you remind me of my grandfather
You're lucky you have such an intelligent and well read grandad!
As for your other statements, I accept what you say, I'm not shit bagging you, enjoy your time here on OF!
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Original post: doh
To everyone here, watch the language.
Azakel, apology aside, please check your email.
messiah of sin, it is truly unfortunate that you have such a hatred toward Christianity. Yes, it's got it's share of twisted, sick, warped, mean, hateful, negative twits following it, but I'm surprised you've only met two or three that are worth anything at all.
I must say, though, that I find it highly ironic that you have swapped one bigoted organized religion for another bigoted (against anything related to the God of Abraham) religion. Counter productive.
As far as Varq, I'm sorry, but he honestly doesn't hold a candle to Manson's earlier stuff, in my opinion. Manson is loosing some of the edge "in his old age", but I don't put them in the same boat.
I also don't want to be rude, but I have to point out that what I have read from Varq concerning paganism really isn't that new or different. It just appeals to another generation. Granted, I haven't read much, but there are authors out there that are much better.
To everyone here, watch the language.
Azakel, apology aside, please check your email.
messiah of sin, it is truly unfortunate that you have such a hatred toward Christianity. Yes, it's got it's share of twisted, sick, warped, mean, hateful, negative twits following it, but I'm surprised you've only met two or three that are worth anything at all.
I must say, though, that I find it highly ironic that you have swapped one bigoted organized religion for another bigoted (against anything related to the God of Abraham) religion. Counter productive.
As far as Varq, I'm sorry, but he honestly doesn't hold a candle to Manson's earlier stuff, in my opinion. Manson is loosing some of the edge "in his old age", but I don't put them in the same boat.
I also don't want to be rude, but I have to point out that what I have read from Varq concerning paganism really isn't that new or different. It just appeals to another generation. Granted, I haven't read much, but there are authors out there that are much better.
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Ok, you obviously dont have the first clue about metal my friend. If you did, you would know the whole church burning was only an race between black metal bands at the time, to prove who was more EVIL than the next, a publicity stunt that got out of hand. There were alot of beautiful churches burned down because of that silly movement, and if you beleive that has anything to do with Laveyanism, i suggest you start from scratch again and readthe Satanic bible. Ifyou dont beleive me, heres a CoS forum, go post this thread there, and see what response you get;)
http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php
Ok, you obviously dont have the first clue about metal my friend. If you did, you would know the whole church burning was only an race between black metal bands at the time, to prove who was more EVIL than the next, a publicity stunt that got out of hand. There were alot of beautiful churches burned down because of that silly movement, and if you beleive that has anything to do with Laveyanism, i suggest you start from scratch again and readthe Satanic bible. Ifyou dont beleive me, heres a CoS forum, go post this thread there, and see what response you get;)
http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php
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Original post: Sushumma
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anyway man varg is a kickass writter and a pagan, you should read his work on paganism.
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He's also quite a nazi, though probably not as much these days as he used to be (at least if you judge by the articles on burzum.org).
I remember an old burzum interview (in some metal zine) where he mentioned how china should be carpet-bombed, spiced with the usual antisemitic rhetoric...
[QUOTE=messiah of sin;259123]
anyway man varg is a kickass writter and a pagan, you should read his work on paganism.
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He's also quite a nazi, though probably not as much these days as he used to be (at least if you judge by the articles on burzum.org).
I remember an old burzum interview (in some metal zine) where he mentioned how china should be carpet-bombed, spiced with the usual antisemitic rhetoric...
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Original post: messiah of sin
also i know most laveyans hate varg and varg hates lavey, i never said the church burnings had shit to do with laveyan satanism. i just said christianity oppresses the occult, and you can't argue with that. ive read the satanic bible more than you obviously, i know what im talking about i just happen to be a laveyan satanist that like varg's writting.
dude ive been in the american metal scene for a long ass time even though im young, im not gonna try and tell you how much your know about whatever the hell you listen too so dont try that shit on meOk, you obviously dont have the first clue about metal my friend. If you did, you would know the whole church burning was only an race between black metal bands at the time, to prove who was more EVIL than the next, a publicity stunt that got out of hand. There were alot of beautiful churches burned down because of that silly movement, and if you beleive that has anything to do with Laveyanism, i suggest you start from scratch again and readthe Satanic bible. Ifyou dont beleive me, heres a CoS forum, go post this thread there, and see what response you get
also i know most laveyans hate varg and varg hates lavey, i never said the church burnings had shit to do with laveyan satanism. i just said christianity oppresses the occult, and you can't argue with that. ive read the satanic bible more than you obviously, i know what im talking about i just happen to be a laveyan satanist that like varg's writting.
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Original post: hendo555666
What does the American metal scene have to do with Varg?
Quote:im not gonna try and tell you how much your know about whatever the hell you listen too so dont try that shit on me
No one is shitting on anyone here, but your comments so far have shown a total lack of knowlege on laveyanism and metal history. Marlyin manson the modern day Varg?????Im sure he'd love to here his "no1 fan" call him that!!
Quote:i never said the church burnings had shit to do with laveyan satanism.
Well you quite openly announced your support of church burnings, and went on to proclaim yourself laveyan?????Could you realy imagine Mr Lavey(when he was alive) running around with a can of lighter fluid n a zippo, lighting up the local churches????
Quote:ive read the satanic bible more than you obviously, i know what im talking about i just happen to be a laveyan satanist that like varg's writting.
Oh you claim to know me personaly, and how much ive read, well ok, if you want to beleive that, go ahead:D
What does the American metal scene have to do with Varg?
Quote:im not gonna try and tell you how much your know about whatever the hell you listen too so dont try that shit on me
No one is shitting on anyone here, but your comments so far have shown a total lack of knowlege on laveyanism and metal history. Marlyin manson the modern day Varg?????Im sure he'd love to here his "no1 fan" call him that!!
Quote:i never said the church burnings had shit to do with laveyan satanism.
Well you quite openly announced your support of church burnings, and went on to proclaim yourself laveyan?????Could you realy imagine Mr Lavey(when he was alive) running around with a can of lighter fluid n a zippo, lighting up the local churches????
Quote:ive read the satanic bible more than you obviously, i know what im talking about i just happen to be a laveyan satanist that like varg's writting.
Oh you claim to know me personaly, and how much ive read, well ok, if you want to beleive that, go ahead:D
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Original post: hendo555666
Anathema id have you as a grandad anyday:)
Anathema id have you as a grandad anyday:)
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Original post: messiah of sin
I said Varg was the Manson of Europe, but whatever. Varg has nothing on Manson.
Yeah aight I dont know you personally but that's not any dumber than you telling me how much I know about metal.
I said Varg was the Manson of Europe, but whatever. Varg has nothing on Manson.
Yeah aight I dont know you personally but that's not any dumber than you telling me how much I know about metal.
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Original post: hendo555666
Coolness, now add me on myspace you mentally deranged zombie of the umber world;)
Coolness, now add me on myspace you mentally deranged zombie of the umber world;)
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Original post: Al Rischa
This guys no pagan he is just a racist.
Al.
This guys no pagan he is just a racist.
Al.
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Original post: hendo555666
Im inclined to agree,although he goes beyond racist, to down right insane!!
Im inclined to agree,although he goes beyond racist, to down right insane!!
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Original post: Venefica
To me the Count is a man that just hate and destroy, he care little for creating, he just believe hate will solve it all, and if not one can at least hate and bitch. I really can not say what I think about the murder, perhaps he was right, his rival in the metal community was perhaps out to kill him, perhaps Varg live to day because he took action, but the burning of churches, some of them old and oh so very beautiful, that make me angry.
I can get hurt when a Christian tell me I am evil for practicing magick, but I can take higher ground. I allow them their faith and I make sure they can not deny me mine. I would be a hypocrite if I condoned trying to shut a religion down. Besides Christianity have many good point, for many people they have found their Spiritual path in Christianity and none have any right to then burn their temples down, none have the right to try to take away a person's chosen religion, no matter what you think of it. No one!
Edited to add: And the Count do not even follow his own religion. He is white and have blue eyes yes, but he i not blond he has brown hair, by his own religion she should not practice he should just sit and wait and hope for blond hair the next life.
I believe in freedom of religion, it is the most basic human right. Christians do not have any less right to believe what they want than you or I do. Burning churches is an ugly attack on the human right of free religion! It is also a shame to destroy such beautiful religious artwork. Let the Count rot in jail I say, he have deserved it, burning Churches are terrible.the arson was for burning churches, and i appluad that cause christianity is the enemy, they have been oppressing us, and i mean all occultists not just satanists, as long as they've been around.
I know little of this artist, however there are a big difference between hating something and actually doing something about it.you think manson would never burn down a church? manson hates christianity. read anthing he's written or watch any interview with him.
There are quite a few Asatru practitioner in Norway, those that believe in the old Gods, they are Pagans, the Count is a Satanist whit a few Pagan ideas in his practice. believing and worshiping Odin do not make you a Satanist.i'm a laveyan satanist, not an odinist like he is, i just love his work
I have not followed the case, but when a member of the Norwegian Occult community go to jail the rest of us notice. The Count believed a friend of him was going to murder him and went to a pre emptive strike, killing him first. This is against the law in Norway and is not considered to be self defense, the threat on his life being real or not.I mean, you say he killed in self-defense but clearly the courts didn't think so, I guess that's just your biased opinion or is it based on any other fact then Varg the Slayer claimed it to be true and you believe everything your Nordic hero states?
To me the Count is a man that just hate and destroy, he care little for creating, he just believe hate will solve it all, and if not one can at least hate and bitch. I really can not say what I think about the murder, perhaps he was right, his rival in the metal community was perhaps out to kill him, perhaps Varg live to day because he took action, but the burning of churches, some of them old and oh so very beautiful, that make me angry.
I can get hurt when a Christian tell me I am evil for practicing magick, but I can take higher ground. I allow them their faith and I make sure they can not deny me mine. I would be a hypocrite if I condoned trying to shut a religion down. Besides Christianity have many good point, for many people they have found their Spiritual path in Christianity and none have any right to then burn their temples down, none have the right to try to take away a person's chosen religion, no matter what you think of it. No one!
Edited to add: And the Count do not even follow his own religion. He is white and have blue eyes yes, but he i not blond he has brown hair, by his own religion she should not practice he should just sit and wait and hope for blond hair the next life.
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Original post: hendo555666
Or use peroxide;)haha!!!
Or use peroxide;)haha!!!
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Original post: Venefica
You do got a point.
You do got a point.