Fraternity of the Hidden Light

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Fraternity of the Hidden Light

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Greetings Everyone,

I have been lurking for a bit reading up on what everyone has to say here. I have only found one thread that discusses the Fraternity of Hidden Light - and it wasn't all that informative. I wonder if any members have taken instruction from this school, and your opinions of them. Specifically, about the balance between study and practical work and the daily/weekly time needed to devote.

Thanks for any help you all offer -

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Re: Fraternity of the Hidden Light

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Hello Hermite

Just as in BOTA the FLO system provides material for daily practice. I just wrote a related post on http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 05#p475305

FYI. There are two PFC books published by FLO that also give an idea of the intensity of the course of study and commitment needed.

Hope it helps.
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Re: Fraternity of the Hidden Light

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Care Fraters/Sorores

At the beginning of the current year (2013), I have submitted my application to FLO for membership. After several months my membership was approved and I was assigned to an Australian tutor, Fra S.I.A. I was welcome by him and I started to pay my lessons. When I received the second lesson I decided to enquire my tutor about the overall system followed by FLO and if they included Enochian Magic into their teaching. As a replay for my enquires my tutor send me a brief message telling that I my studies will be discontinued and my membership ceased from that day on. He also said that FLO membership "is not for every one". And that's it!

I pledge to Fra S.I.A. for a second chance asking him if he coul at least explain to me the reason of such rush decision. The didn't care to drop a line back.

Filling that decision unfair, I decided to pledge to the Preceptor West to intercede to the Steward of the Fraternity on my behalf, and she did it. She informed afterwards that after exchanges of communication between the Steward and Fra S.I.A. my membership termination status was maintained. And no further explanation was provided except that one: FLO membership "is not for every one"...

But my question remains. How a tutor, based on a couple of emails and without any face to face contact can decide the spiritual path of a student? How can someone without any offensive reason can decide to put a student away? I haven't done anything, in my point of view, to provoke such a conclusion. Except for misconduct or anything done that compromise the name of the school the student should be able to tread their own path an decided to leave or continue their studies by their own choice. A tutor shouldn't be able to terminate any student membership without discussing with the student or given them a warning. I didn't have any...

I was just a student willing to clarify my path ahead, as I have some bad experiences with other orders and spiritual fraternities. I think I have the rights to make questions about the school I'm getting into during the Probatory stage. That grade is not only for the school but for the student as well to decide if it fits. Asking a couple of question about grade structure and some teachings contents is not that bad to put someone away.

I would like some feedback from Fra/Sors from FLO on this matter or if they can help me.

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It seems that it is the kind of organization where questions are not welcomed. I wouldn't bother to be thrown away from such a group.Still, I find the procedure a bit crude. Can't you think of another reason?

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From the other thread you posted in recently FraTAS,the reasoning for Anti Enochian stance [and the dislike of Goetia] in the FLO,from a member of the group:

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =8&t=19677
Original post: Ronin

Banishinglies this is not an attack on you or anything like that, I just think I should clear some things up that you said, so that it does not confuse anyone that may be interested in BOTA or FLO. First off I am a member of both organizations, and I cannot recommend them highly enough. I would like to say that Paul Foster Case was far from being an eccentric person, who thought this and that was evil. He did feel that Enochian was responsible for the death of his friend Michael Whitty, but I think that he also felt that Enochian was irrelevent for spiritual development, and could possibly lead a person to become unbalanced and delusional. He was not the only one to feel that Enochian was not important in spiritual growth, here is a great viewpoint from Rawn Clark, an adept from the Bardon tradition- A Bardon Companion: Correspondence - 52, it is a tad long sorry. Paul Foster Case did not feel that ceremonial magic was "evil", it is another thing that I feel he thought was not completely essential for spiritual growth. Ritual work helps raise the consciousness of the magician through its use of symbols, but the symbols have no inherent power within themselves. The power comes from the magician's mind alone, group or solo initiations do not "initiate" someone, all that the rituals can do is prepare the magician to receive the inner initiation, which in essence is a "gift from above". So even though BOTA has no ritual work within its correspondence lessons, if they are followed closely enough, and with heart and dedication, they can lead the aspirant towards that inner initiation. BOTA does have ritual work for members at their main temple, but not within the correspondence lessons. Paul A. Clark left BOTA to form FLO and allowed Probationers (correspondence members) more access to ritual work, also FLO has more Lodges which allow Probationers to apply for membership within a Lodge in order to work a GD style grade system. FLO from what I know so far, in keeping with the tradition of Paul Foster Case, does not use Enochian magic. Also BOTA and FLO are no more "Christian" in their tone than most other organizations with the Western Mystery Tradition. Without it's Judeo-Christian heritage the WMT would be practically empty. That is just my two cents, hope I didn't leave anything out or confuse anyone even more.
It dosen't surprise me that things went badly for you in regard to Enochian,given the above information. [eek] However I can only speculate as to whether or not making enquiries about Enochian was enough to get you kicked.I don't know if that would be corrrect but I personally think it's a poor reason in it's own right,if it was so.

But,perhaps you should have learned more about the background of the organisaton and it's founders before enquiring about this,as it does seem a bit of a sore point for them. [oh]
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At the beginning of the current year (2013), I have submitted my application to FLO for membership. After several months my membership was approved and I was assigned to an Australian tutor, Fra S.I.A. I was welcome by him and I started to pay my lessons. When I received the second lesson I decided to enquire my tutor about the overall system followed by FLO and if they included Enochian Magic into their teaching.
I would've asked prior to joining but that's just me. I'm not going to join any group without knowing as much as I can about it ahead of time.
Except for misconduct or anything done that compromise the name of the school the student should be able to tread their own path an decided to leave or continue their studies by their own choice. A tutor shouldn't be able to terminate any student membership without discussing with the student or given them a warning. I didn't have any...
In public schools - yes. This is a private organization. They can do what they want. They have specific rules in place. I have no idea what they are, tho. I think it would've been nice if they at least gave you an explanation but as a private organization - they're not 'required' to.
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