Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
I feel like Energy Work needs it's own subforum category.
First off, are the Nine Cuts, or Kuji-In, just a more advanced version Sigil casting? I've been researching it a little bit, and the actual empowering seems more like a specific type of sigil casting than anything else. I've been working with the Rin mantra and mudra for a few research purposes, but I haven't found anything special about the techniques so far.
This question was less along the lines of energy work.
Are there any good meditations or practices specifically for *quickly* cleaning out your chakra system? I have a few energetic blockages that have taken a lot of time to work out, and my own techniques are taking far too long to achieve the results I need. This is something that needs to be rushed, for reasons I cannot go into.
When you start Kundallini meditations, and you stop before completely raising the energy, is it possible for it to recces back down your spine?
I took a while out of doing my specific meditations, and now whenever I do them again the energy feels extremely ecstatic, and I can't actually tell where it is along my spine, but it feels lower than where I ended last time.
How can I increase my control over the amount of energy I'm using better? Are there any practices you could recommend?
When I inhale energy from the surrounding area, it takes a very long time to fill up on, and a long time to move enough of it to my solar plexus to have any noticeable effect. Usually, I take energy directly from my surroundings and apply it where I need it, I don't store it.
When I pull in energy from God through my crown chakra, it's about twice as intense, but significantly more difficult to control. I rarely do it, because I can't isolate where I need the energy (ie. to a single, specific organ, or patch of flesh).
When I use my own personal Ki from my solar plexus, the effect is almost immediate, and only slightly less powerful than when inhaling through my crown chakra.. But it takes a looot out of me. I need to spend at least 30 minutes recharging on vital energy from around me, or I end up sleeping for a day.
No matter which form of energy I use (personal Ki, vital energy from the earth, or God's energy from my crown), I'm limited in my control over it, and I really need to fix it.
I'm working past a couple of persistent illnesses, and if I end up wasting my own vital force trying to heal myself, I end up missing the point. Needless to say, I need to gain better, more precise control. I need to be able to make my energy like a hypodermic needle, and I don't know how to practice such a thing. I'm doing the best I can to control what I have now.
Thanks to anyone who posts. My life has been too bust to respond on the forum a lot, so unless I have some more specific questions I may not respond to individual posts, of course, unless they spark my interest to do so.
First off, are the Nine Cuts, or Kuji-In, just a more advanced version Sigil casting? I've been researching it a little bit, and the actual empowering seems more like a specific type of sigil casting than anything else. I've been working with the Rin mantra and mudra for a few research purposes, but I haven't found anything special about the techniques so far.
This question was less along the lines of energy work.
Are there any good meditations or practices specifically for *quickly* cleaning out your chakra system? I have a few energetic blockages that have taken a lot of time to work out, and my own techniques are taking far too long to achieve the results I need. This is something that needs to be rushed, for reasons I cannot go into.
When you start Kundallini meditations, and you stop before completely raising the energy, is it possible for it to recces back down your spine?
I took a while out of doing my specific meditations, and now whenever I do them again the energy feels extremely ecstatic, and I can't actually tell where it is along my spine, but it feels lower than where I ended last time.
How can I increase my control over the amount of energy I'm using better? Are there any practices you could recommend?
When I inhale energy from the surrounding area, it takes a very long time to fill up on, and a long time to move enough of it to my solar plexus to have any noticeable effect. Usually, I take energy directly from my surroundings and apply it where I need it, I don't store it.
When I pull in energy from God through my crown chakra, it's about twice as intense, but significantly more difficult to control. I rarely do it, because I can't isolate where I need the energy (ie. to a single, specific organ, or patch of flesh).
When I use my own personal Ki from my solar plexus, the effect is almost immediate, and only slightly less powerful than when inhaling through my crown chakra.. But it takes a looot out of me. I need to spend at least 30 minutes recharging on vital energy from around me, or I end up sleeping for a day.
No matter which form of energy I use (personal Ki, vital energy from the earth, or God's energy from my crown), I'm limited in my control over it, and I really need to fix it.
I'm working past a couple of persistent illnesses, and if I end up wasting my own vital force trying to heal myself, I end up missing the point. Needless to say, I need to gain better, more precise control. I need to be able to make my energy like a hypodermic needle, and I don't know how to practice such a thing. I'm doing the best I can to control what I have now.
Thanks to anyone who posts. My life has been too bust to respond on the forum a lot, so unless I have some more specific questions I may not respond to individual posts, of course, unless they spark my interest to do so.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
No.Haelos wrote:I feel like Energy Work needs it's own subforum category.
First off, are the Nine Cuts, or Kuji-In, just a more advanced version Sigil casting?
It's a concentration technique.
Yes, Don't rush it. let it happen when it happens.Are there any good meditations or practices specifically for *quickly* cleaning out your chakra system? I have a few energetic blockages that have taken a lot of time to work out, and my own techniques are taking far too long to achieve the results I need. This is something that needs to be rushed, for reasons I cannot go into.
Yes.When you start Kundallini meditations, and you stop before completely raising the energy, is it possible for it to recces back down your spine?
I took a while out of doing my specific meditations, and now whenever I do them again the energy feels extremely ecstatic, and I can't actually tell where it is along my spine, but it feels lower than where I ended last time.
Lots of practice.How can I increase my control over the amount of energy I'm using better? Are there any practices you could recommend?
Yes, this is normal. You need to rest.When I inhale energy from the surrounding area, it takes a very long time to fill up on, and a long time to move enough of it to my solar plexus to have any noticeable effect. Usually, I take energy directly from my surroundings and apply it where I need it, I don't store it.
When I pull in energy from God through my crown chakra, it's about twice as intense, but significantly more difficult to control. I rarely do it, because I can't isolate where I need the energy (ie. to a single, specific organ, or patch of flesh).
When I use my own personal Ki from my solar plexus, the effect is almost immediate, and only slightly less powerful than when inhaling through my crown chakra.. But it takes a looot out of me. I need to spend at least 30 minutes recharging on vital energy from around me, or I end up sleeping for a day.
No matter which form of energy I use (personal Ki, vital energy from the earth, or God's energy from my crown), I'm limited in my control over it, and I really need to fix it.
A trained marathon runner can run longer then a normal person, becaused they have trained for a very long time. If you decide to start running marathons out of the blue, the next day will be very painful and you might need to recover for more then 30 minutes.
Well, if it is an illness that will pass. Let it pass, then continue with your energy work.I'm working past a couple of persistent illnesses, and if I end up wasting my own vital force trying to heal myself, I end up missing the point. Needless to say, I need to gain better, more precise control. I need to be able to make my energy like a hypodermic needle, and I don't know how to practice such a thing. I'm doing the best I can to control what I have now.
If it is a chronic diseases, You can concentrate on lessening the symptoms a little, but trying to heal it complete will most likely just hurt more in the end.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Try pore breathing instead of nose or mouth breathing.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
I usually try to combine the two. A lot of times I get the sensation of pore breathing whether I focus on it or not.RoseRed wrote:Try pore breathing instead of nose or mouth breathing.
As a general rule of thumb, if I'm moving charged breath, I breathe it through my nose, and if it's uncharged, or if I'm simply moving it from one place to another, I use my mouth. No matter what though, when I focus on specific areas, it pretty much automatically turns to pore-breathing, and takes more guided effort to pull through my nose and then move it to apply the energy.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
I actually meant Kuji-Kiri, which is used to empower symbols. Most often I see kanji or hiragana used as the empowering symbol, but it could be assumed that any sigil will work.Desecrated wrote:No.Haelos wrote:I feel like Energy Work needs it's own subforum category.
First off, are the Nine Cuts, or Kuji-In, just a more advanced version Sigil casting?
It's a concentration technique.
Yes, Don't rush it. let it happen when it happens[/quote]Are there any good meditations or practices specifically for *quickly* cleaning out your chakra system? I have a few energetic blockages that have taken a lot of time to work out, and my own techniques are taking far too long to achieve the results I need. This is something that needs to be rushed, for reasons I cannot go into.
Could you perhaps share some resources to a couple? For this particular instance, I need to rush it as much as I can, although I know that I should not. I'm not here for moral lessons today, and I'm aware of the consequences. As I said, I can't go into the reason, but the quicker the end-result, the better.
Lots of practice.[/quote]How can I increase my control over the amount of energy I'm using better? Are there any practices you could recommend?
Okay, perfect. I do that. Now, what kind of practice?
The point is, what I'm doing now isn't cutting it and is keeping me at neutral growth.
Well, if it is an illness that will pass. Let it pass, then continue with your energy work.I'm working past a couple of persistent illnesses, and if I end up wasting my own vital force trying to heal myself, I end up missing the point. Needless to say, I need to gain better, more precise control. I need to be able to make my energy like a hypodermic needle, and I don't know how to practice such a thing. I'm doing the best I can to control what I have now.
If it is a chronic diseases, You can concentrate on lessening the symptoms a little, but trying to heal it complete will most likely just hurt more in the end.[/quote]
It's a bacterial infection that I've had for (going on) five years now. It started as an ear infection and has spread into my throat, sinuses, and eyes.
It is not something that will heal on it's own by this point. It's to the point where the infection doesn't get any stronger, but it doesn't go away either. I've been using energy work and healing meditations to attempt to flush this out of my body. For various reason, I've never been able to get any antibiotics to assist in healing. God simply doesn't have that in my plan, and I've done many things to attempt getting some.
I've pushed most of the symptoms down with sheer will over the past couple years, but now I'm really learning how I can get rid of it. I need to do this, for reasons that should be more than obvious.
Most often, as I said, I apply force directly from around me to heal. This takes too much time.
When I apply my own force, it leaves me too drained, and leaves me in fear of the infection sustaining or getting worse.
When I use energy from my crown, I cannot control it well enough to isolate it where I need it.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Okay, this is the problem with good information on the subject. I've only seen it used to cut. To create a barrier. But it's not the actual fingers that creates the barrier, it's you, you are only using certain symbols because they focus your concentration on the task.Haelos wrote:
I actually meant Kuji-Kiri, which is used to empower symbols. Most often I see kanji or hiragana used as the empowering symbol, but it could be assumed that any sigil will work.
The consequence is that it won't work.
Could you perhaps share some resources to a couple? For this particular instance, I need to rush it as much as I can, although I know that I should not. I'm not here for moral lessons today, and I'm aware of the consequences. As I said, I can't go into the reason, but the quicker the end-result, the better.
It's not about moral, it's about effectiveness. you can't rush it.
If you try to meditate or do energy work with a specific goal in mind that you HAVE to get, your missing the point.
I can't go into a fight concentrating on what will happen when I win, If I do that my focus is not on the fight and I will get punched in the fucking face.
Same thing with energy work. You don't do it to get good at it. You just do it, and after a couple of years, you get good at it.
You can't cut a piece of paper by concentrating on the rift. You sharpen your scissor and then you cut.
Okay, perfect. I do that. Now, what kind of practice?
The point is, what I'm doing now isn't cutting it and is keeping me at neutral growth.
Maybe you don't. Nothing stays around for 5 years refusing to get threated without a reason.
It's a bacterial infection that I've had for (going on) five years now. It started as an ear infection and has spread into my throat, sinuses, and eyes.
It is not something that will heal on it's own by this point. It's to the point where the infection doesn't get any stronger, but it doesn't go away either. I've been using energy work and healing meditations to attempt to flush this out of my body. For various reason, I've never been able to get any antibiotics to assist in healing. God simply doesn't have that in my plan, and I've done many things to attempt getting some.
I've pushed most of the symptoms down with sheer will over the past couple years, but now I'm really learning how I can get rid of it. I need to do this, for reasons that should be more than obvious.
You can't flush it out of your body apparently. Have your tried making peace with it?
Then don't isolate it.Most often, as I said, I apply force directly from around me to heal. This takes too much time.
When I apply my own force, it leaves me too drained, and leaves me in fear of the infection sustaining or getting worse.
When I use energy from my crown, I cannot control it well enough to isolate it where I need it.
Practice until you can draw in enough practice to drown the whole area.
You say you want it to be like a needle, and at the same time that's not working.
Well, try a different approach then. If a needle won't work. Try a basketball bat.
If you can't draw enough energy into that spot, try sending out the energy from that area. Take all the bad and throw it out. Then replace it with new energy.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
This may be true. I've only ever seen it used to empower symbols, although that is only in it's most basic form. It is also meditative practices.Desecrated wrote:Okay, this is the problem with good information on the subject. I've only seen it used to cut. To create a barrier. But it's not the actual fingers that creates the barrier, it's you, you are only using certain symbols because they focus your concentration on the task.Haelos wrote:
I actually meant Kuji-Kiri, which is used to empower symbols. Most often I see kanji or hiragana used as the empowering symbol, but it could be assumed that any sigil will work.
Considering it started out as an ear infection, and given the various symptoms, I'd say, yes. It's an infection.Maybe you don't. Nothing stays around for 5 years refusing to get threated without a reason.
You can't flush it out of your body apparently. Have your tried making peace with it?
If I didn't spend so much time actively trying to fight it, it may very well have killed me by now. It's destroyed my sinus cavities (more than they already were), and continues to show symptoms, although to lessening degrees.
Making peace with it seems to me like a stupid thing to do. It's quite obviously damaging my body, I see no reason why I'd allow it to continue.
I don't have the proper control to make it so precise, this is the point, and I don't know how to train better control.Most often, as I said, I apply force directly from around me to heal. This takes too much time.
When I apply my own force, it leaves me too drained, and leaves me in fear of the infection sustaining or getting worse.
When I use energy from my crown, I cannot control it well enough to isolate it where I need it.
Then don't isolate it.
Practice until you can draw in enough practice to drown the whole area.
You say you want it to be like a needle, and at the same time that's not working.
Well, try a different approach then. If a needle won't work. Try a basketball bat.
If you can't draw enough energy into that spot, try sending out the energy from that area. Take all the bad and throw it out. Then replace it with new energy.
I actually can't simply drown out the entire area, because it's in my skull, and collecting too much vital energy in your brain is probably one of the worst things a mage can do to themselves. Practicing breathing from the crown to other limbs does nothing for me, because I can barely pull the energy down that far. I still need more time to open the networks along my spine, so it's kind of impractical to use this forme of energy for the time being.
I've made use of multiple techniques, including variations on how you listed to no true avail in my end-goal.
No offense, but I'm not really here for these beat-around-the-bush answers you've been giving, nor for the metaphors. I know what I need done, I just don't know specifically how to do it. This is why I'm posting here. You don't seem to be knowledgeable enough in the areas I need, to be looking to offer the needed advice.
I know there are specific practices for training better prana control and capacity. I *have* control, and I can store a lot. I just need to do it better, quicker, and more efficiently. I don't know where to find these practices again, or what to begin looking for, really.
The two questions that are still up for debate are simple, and require either a yes, with links or other resources, or a no, with an end of the discussion.
I apologize for being so blunt and abrasive, but I've caught on to the fact that you like not to answer with direct thoughts in many of your posts, and I can no longer deal with such a thing. It's okay in certain instances and conversations, but not here, and not with me.
Trust me, I love the metaphors and indirect statements that throw the newbie witches off their track, but with certain people (especially us who practice) talking around the subject starts to show more about your lack of knowledge than offer any mystique to the topic. We are not here for mystics, but for cold hard facts.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Have you read Fra. Veos' IIH Commentary? He discusses the issues you're talking about as I recall, especially the question of increasing the density and quantity of accumulated energies.
Another source which provides excellent advice on controlling energy and directing it through specific areas of the body is Bruce's New Energy Ways (N.E.W.).
Another source which provides excellent advice on controlling energy and directing it through specific areas of the body is Bruce's New Energy Ways (N.E.W.).
"The path of the Sage is called
'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
that gives itself to the chisel-
cut by cut it is honed to perfection"
- DDJ, Verse 27
"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
that gives itself to the chisel-
cut by cut it is honed to perfection"
- DDJ, Verse 27
"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
I haven't read either of those. N.E.W. comes highly recommended, but the name is very off-putting to me.Rin wrote:Have you read Fra. Veos' IIH Commentary? He discusses the issues you're talking about as I recall, especially the question of increasing the density and quantity of accumulated energies.
Another source which provides excellent advice on controlling energy and directing it through specific areas of the body is Bruce's New Energy Ways (N.E.W.).
I have a book that's supposed to go along with IIH, but I don't think it's the one you mentioned. I'll look it up and read it, then I'll let you know how well it answers my problems.
Thank you for the recommendations, Rin.
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The name put me off at first too, and I disagree with a lot of what I've read of Bruce's other works on astral projection, but N.E.W. is an excellent piece which approaches the subject of energy work from an angle which is very much neglected, especially in Western works, and something I think anyone involved in any metaphysical/spiritual/magical practices should take the time to read. It also has the benefit of being short and concise, as well as public domain.
You can find the IIH commentary here: http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=13531.0
You can find the IIH commentary here: http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=13531.0
"The path of the Sage is called
'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
that gives itself to the chisel-
cut by cut it is honed to perfection"
- DDJ, Verse 27
"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
that gives itself to the chisel-
cut by cut it is honed to perfection"
- DDJ, Verse 27
"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Once again, thank you for the recommendation, and thank you for the link.Rin wrote:The name put me off at first too, and I disagree with a lot of what I've read of Bruce's other works on astral projection, but N.E.W. is an excellent piece which approaches the subject of energy work from an angle which is very much neglected, especially in Western works, and something I think anyone involved in any metaphysical/spiritual/magical practices should take the time to read. It also has the benefit of being short and concise, as well as public domain.
You can find the IIH commentary here: http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=13531.0
Your word will probably allow that book to be read by me a bit quicker.
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Re: Some miscellaneous energy-work questions
Bump for personal use.
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