Wanga Doll Black magic and religion Noob info

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Original post: Kanarime

Wanna change your luck. First change yourself. If a doll can help you do that, then more power to you, but I've never found a quick fix to be the proper answer to a consistent problem.

I'd recommend Undoing Yourself With Energized Meditationby Chris Hyatt Phd. It's a bitchin book, and should tell you all you need to know to get started in learning magick (with a "k" ). It might even give you some insight into your toy... dildo... doll thing. Also try Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising, and do the exercises in the text.

Don't be like the dumb bastard from the sixties who believed that people like Tim Leary said that everyone can turn into supermen by getting fucked up on LSD. To quote King Mob, "Don't just sit back in your seat expecting someone to take you there. They're just showing you what to do."

Do you really think purchasing a doll is going to change your luck? If you want a handle on your luck or your circumstances, then stop being a victim and take responsibility for it. You can't always change your environment, but you damned well can change yourself.

The answer lies in changing the source of the problem. Once you're through with trying to "quick fix" and "cheat" your way to a false solution, you'll probably find your luck turning around a complete 180 degrees.

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Original post: Samhain

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How can you use this wanga doll as an noob? The info said it has 13 different herbs and 2 oil. I won this item on ebay. This wanga voodoo doll can bring: money, love, protection and other things.

Is there any newbie around that has some luck with wanga and have no religion? Because i would be amazed if this is working. I am an magiccian in real life i know i fake people to let them believe in things that does not exist (Like David Blaine)
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A carpenter needs tools in order to do his work, but an untrained person won't find much use for a level. And can easily cut their hand off with a skillsaw, especially if they're foolish by nature. Whether a wanga doll is more like a level or a skillsaw will depend on how well you can focus your intent. And how strong your subconscious beliefs are about it.

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Original post: fiat_lux_777

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Dear Masterunix2003,

The question of magick is not a question of belief, but rather a question of "suspension of disbelief".

When you watch a great movie or read a wonderful novel you get completely involved in the storyline to the extent that the "mundane" world fades away and the film or book becomes your universe. This is suspension of disbelief.

The same applies to magick. Magick doesn't require you to "believe" in it - in fact, blind belief is to be avoided. It does require, for the period of the ritual, that you suspend disbelief and become caught up in the moment - completely focussed and involved.

Feranaja , thank you for your response, but still not answerd my questions. If an "spell" or something can exist then i wanna see it or feel it. So i dont can do anything with your information. And i really tried every other thing in life its just not good. Thats why i need info and people with expiernces in this wanga thingy.

I think you may have missed the point of Feranaja's post. Sometimes a quick-fix easy solution is not beneficial in the long-run, especially if the underlying causes of the problems have not been addressed. If you want to see magick, you must be unflinching in your analysis of yourself and your motivations.

To illustrate, let's say my conscious mind desires to be rich, and I work a ritual to this end. If my motivation and subconscious desires aren't in accord with my conscious intent (i.e. if I'm lazy and don't really want to work to obtain more money) then the ritual will (usually) be unsuccessful.

Remember, magick works along natural, probable lines - if you wish to widen your sphere of availability so more probabilities fall within your grasp, you're going to have to do some introspective work. IMO.

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Todd

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Original post: Tyday

Ok, masterunix2003, here's my serious advice based on my own creative genius - you can ignore my post if you want a first-hand recount. So you want this wanga doll thing to give you luck right? Give your Wanga Doll a name, preferably something that is related to its purpose - for example GIVEMELUCK or YOULUCKYTHING. Ohhh noo...that was so lameâ?¦anyway...Talk to it. Tell it to give you luck, money etc. Call its essence into your life everyday. You donâ??t have to believe in anything. You just have to do it â?? donâ??t just forget about the whole thing. Sometime, someplace a good thing will happen and you will put 2 and 2 togetherâ?¦and it will happen againâ?¦and againâ?¦and then belief can come in. An example: say that you woke up late today and are late for the train...Doh'! Chant your Wanga Doll's name and visualise it jumping up and down, magickally delaying your train (or directly harassing the train drivers), and saying â??It is done!â?Â

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Original post: masterunix2003

Tyday, thank you for your response. My wanga doll has an instruction and it has 13 different magic oils or something ... and 3 different herbs. I see what you mean Tyday ... really great awnsered for all my questions! I give my wanga doll a name like in the instructions ... i talk to it and for some reason i am in love with an girl that i meet. She also loves me. Tomorow is my B-Day so it will be very great and perfect! I think from now on only positives may can happen! So its an great start in my life. Anyway thank you all for all your reaction ... but till now i like Tyday's messages the best.

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Original post: corbypete

mate, go away, and stop insulting people here with your ignorance, lack of time for anyones advice, anddismissive behaviour.

That wanga doll you have, its useless, its not a tool like your microwave in your kitchen, its a tool for channelling your beliefs. If you believe in nothing, or care not to put int he effort why should that magick put its effort in you. it wont.

Your the kinda guy who dabbles with evil spirits because they appear to be the most active, get them to prove they exist, only to find a knife has flown off your table and into your chest.

If you're not willing to have faith or belief in anything, why use toos that are used with a religion. Thats like saying "ok guys, i dont believe in electricity. i think its all bullshit, but can you give me a quick tip how to wire this plug for my tv?"

I'd go wait on GadgetShop until something with commercial fulfills your needs

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Original post: masterunix2003

I believe only in my self and i ignore all the crap talk where i didnt ask for i understand the meaning in the wanga dolls

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Original post: masterunix2003

Like i said earlyer, 1 day before my B-day some good things happend. Now we are weeks further and its getting better. Also the girl that i meet its getting very serious. We are now living together because some other bad thing happend because i needed to get out o my house where i lived before and she toke me in so we are now living happy together. Also this monday its going very good in business! My new life is started and i am happy of that i am not saying that the wanga thingy helpt me or something but i am saying it is all going good sinds i used the wanga doll and i am using it daily now. It gives you a good feeling to have some doll around you to share your happyness with it anyway thank you all or your replay's etc.

Greetings: Masterunix2003


[QUOTE=masterunix2003]Tyday, thank you for your response. My wanga doll has an instruction and it has 13 different magic oils or something ... and 3 different herbs. I see what you mean Tyday ... really great awnsered for all my questions! I give my wanga doll a name like in the instructions ... i talk to it and for some reason i am in love with an girl that i meet. She also loves me. Tomorow is my B-Day so it will be very great and perfect! I think from now on only positives may can happen! So its an great start in my life. Anyway thank you all for all your reaction ... but till now i like Tyday's messages the best.[/QUOTE]

[masterunix]

Here is masterunix again after 6 years ... i dont remember my email address or password for my masterunix2003 account, so i needed to create a new account to post this message!

In the beginning i didn't believe the Wanga Doll at all and i bought it for fun and just in case if it works ... i am just a regular guy with no religions or anything, but now i believe my Wanga Doll gave me luck!

In 2005 i had no job and i was just a simple person ... now 6 years later i am happy married own 2 houses, 1 car, owning my own company and work as freelancer with luck i also have project that pays a lot of money without any diplomas and every other freelancers are amazed how do i get those jobs ( i am ICT freelancer system engineer, IT manager Linux and Windows systems).

Me and my wife running also an online webshop with 20k visitors a month now and make in euros around 6k gross

So i don't know if i am pure luck OR if the wanga doll is real? But i believe in my doll very seriously now

[Mrdark69]

I believe I know what your getting at, and im sorry If your not getting the responses you need, Ive a method that just may work for you. But it may require a bit more research and creativity on in the creation of tech-nick on your part. I Assume Magic in the begging was more or less based on a scientific art based on its current surroundings. Believing isn't always a must, If most practitioners believe Things are tools, and that believing it may work, will make it work, Then perhaps they misunderstood without first taking into account, U can never be certain. For instance, we believe clouds come from water, And as a society we made many guesses until we were fairly certain it was the case, but we could never truly prove that. Ive never played in the clouds, and Ive never heard of anyone drowning in them. So really wouldn't the point be, more directed toward manipulating what we got or perceive in ways that make sense. Ive heard that scientist cant figure out why bees fly, their mass out-ways their ability to fly. U might wanna try looking up some experiments done Thur Quantum science, and their study on changing water particles, by just placing the water in a sealed container in various spots, with just a word on the box. My personal favorite into the Practice of magic, Is by studying the brain, and how it works. For instant, if u go to a dark room, and let your eyes adjust, Then flip the light on and off really quickly without moving your eyes, Then the room will become visible again for a short period of time. Hope this all helps. Good luck.