Original post: Statickitten
Hi, I am new to reading tarot cards. I have just been learning the past two days or so. I did this relationship cross and I was wondering if I might get any input on how it looks. Thank you for any advice you can give.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 3 of Cups
2. Other parties position in the relationship- 10 of Swords (reversed)
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- 5 of Cups
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- Ace of Wands
5. The future of the relationship- The Lovers
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Just out of curiousity, what deck are you using for this reading?
Just out of curiousity, what deck are you using for this reading?
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Original post: Statickitten
I was using Universal Waite.
I was using Universal Waite.
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Original post: Caradoc
I'm really no expert and don't trust my ability to read this sort of spread, particularly if not done in person.... but I'll give it a go.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 3 of Cups
Motherly Love.
2. Other parties position in the relationship- 10 of Swords (reversed)
Without an apostrophe I can't tell if there is one or more party referred to here. I'm assuming only one... this is almost a paradox, the sense I get is one of comfort and oppression at the same time. Assuming card no.1 does carry a significance of 'Motherly Love' you could assume this gives the person on the recieving end a sense of comfort, of being cared for; but at the same time a sense of being looked down upon and being trapped in the role of protectee if you see what I mean.
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- 5 of Cups
A strong yet watery lusty relationship, possibly based on sex. Or possibly this shows an unfulfilled lust.
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- Ace of Wands
The beginning of a new phase. This will either be a new fiery and energetic phase, or the indication may be that the new phase is born from an explosive incident. Possibly, assuming the above guesses are correct, the party referred to in card no.2 will break out of the oppression he/she is feeling, an arguement will ensue and the relationship will be changed and will either end or will achieve a more steady and balanced keel with a better understanding of each participant by the other.
5. The future of the relationship- The Lovers
Could represent the balanced relationship I mentioned above. Could also represent a close friendship with no romantic connection at all. If taken as representing a romantic connection, there is no reason to assume it will be between the two people referenced in the reading.
It's always more difficult to read when not in person. There are so many conflicting connotations which might be navigated more competently when the querent is sitting in front of you. I'm interested to know what others make of the cards.
I'm really no expert and don't trust my ability to read this sort of spread, particularly if not done in person.... but I'll give it a go.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 3 of Cups
Motherly Love.
2. Other parties position in the relationship- 10 of Swords (reversed)
Without an apostrophe I can't tell if there is one or more party referred to here. I'm assuming only one... this is almost a paradox, the sense I get is one of comfort and oppression at the same time. Assuming card no.1 does carry a significance of 'Motherly Love' you could assume this gives the person on the recieving end a sense of comfort, of being cared for; but at the same time a sense of being looked down upon and being trapped in the role of protectee if you see what I mean.
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- 5 of Cups
A strong yet watery lusty relationship, possibly based on sex. Or possibly this shows an unfulfilled lust.
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- Ace of Wands
The beginning of a new phase. This will either be a new fiery and energetic phase, or the indication may be that the new phase is born from an explosive incident. Possibly, assuming the above guesses are correct, the party referred to in card no.2 will break out of the oppression he/she is feeling, an arguement will ensue and the relationship will be changed and will either end or will achieve a more steady and balanced keel with a better understanding of each participant by the other.
5. The future of the relationship- The Lovers
Could represent the balanced relationship I mentioned above. Could also represent a close friendship with no romantic connection at all. If taken as representing a romantic connection, there is no reason to assume it will be between the two people referenced in the reading.
It's always more difficult to read when not in person. There are so many conflicting connotations which might be navigated more competently when the querent is sitting in front of you. I'm interested to know what others make of the cards.
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Here is a rundown of the situation. I am very much in love with the person who was the subject of the reading. I feel like I have a very strong connection with him, it's like he is my twin. We just click so well, and we have pretty much everything in common. However, I am currently married. Though not very happily. I feel like I should be with this other person. Here is the same reading I did for me and my husband.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 5 of Cups
2. Other parties position in the relationship- Temperance
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- Ace of Swords (reversed)
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- The Star (reversed)
5. The future of the relationship- 10 of Pentacles (reversed)
Here is a rundown of the situation. I am very much in love with the person who was the subject of the reading. I feel like I have a very strong connection with him, it's like he is my twin. We just click so well, and we have pretty much everything in common. However, I am currently married. Though not very happily. I feel like I should be with this other person. Here is the same reading I did for me and my husband.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 5 of Cups
2. Other parties position in the relationship- Temperance
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- Ace of Swords (reversed)
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- The Star (reversed)
5. The future of the relationship- 10 of Pentacles (reversed)
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Original post: Caradoc
I don't really want to say any more in case you are stupid enough to base any decision on my poor ability to read mundane spreads and a marriage collapses :lol: A marriage is always worth working with (and at) and I'm not going to be responsible for giving you an excuse to take an easy route out, no offense meant
BTW, what is the Universal Waite? Is that what I would call the Rider/Waite Tarot? The pack accompanying The Key to the Tarot by A E Waite? If so, get a better pack and read again
The ten of pentacles would normally suggest something that has run its course... reversed it could have a meaning indicating more that you percieve it as having run its course, but that your perception is incorrect. It all depends how you use reversed cards in your readings, I don't use them at all so don't ask me5. The future of the relationship- 10 of Pentacles (reversed)
I don't really want to say any more in case you are stupid enough to base any decision on my poor ability to read mundane spreads and a marriage collapses :lol: A marriage is always worth working with (and at) and I'm not going to be responsible for giving you an excuse to take an easy route out, no offense meant
BTW, what is the Universal Waite? Is that what I would call the Rider/Waite Tarot? The pack accompanying The Key to the Tarot by A E Waite? If so, get a better pack and read again
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[QUOTE=Statickitten]Hi, I am new to reading tarot cards. I have just been learning the past two days or so. I did this relationship cross and I was wondering if I might get any input on how it looks. Thank you for any advice you can give.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 3 of Cups
2. Other parties position in the relationship- 10 of Swords (reversed)
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- 5 of Cups
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- Ace of Wands
5. The future of the relationship- The Lovers[/QUOTE]
I would say there is a strong basis here in friendship, in mutual celebration and in joy, but I am questioning the depth of it. too soon to know if the festive friendship and shared merrymaking of the Three can translate into anything deeper. the future holds a major decision, and I'm concerned about the past connection being based on sorrow. there is growing sexual attraction and energy, but the past seems haunted and unresolved.
Most interesting card here, or at least the most enigmatic, is the reversed Ten of Swords. My take on this is that there is a moment here you can take advantage of if you act quickly.It's suggesting if you don't take someaction soon, you will lose an important opportunity and things will deteriorate rapidly.
Now have a look at the Three and the Five of Cups, place them side by side. In the Five, we see three cups spilled and two left standing. The esoteric message here is that the Two of Cups - romantic love - can be a healing force for the sadness of the lost Three. Now you also HAVE the Three in here suggesting joy and shared pleasure, festivity. A strong wound in you calls for healing and something has responded. however, you need to move quickly or risk losing more than you might think.
This spread presents a moment where you are only half conscious of what you want as opposed t what you need, and the fiery wands energy of the Ace is not helping you think clearly. You need some Pentacles groundedness and Swords intellect to help you sort your way though a potentially dangerous but still joyful situation.
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[QUOTE=Statickitten]Hi, I am new to reading tarot cards. I have just been learning the past two days or so. I did this relationship cross and I was wondering if I might get any input on how it looks. Thank you for any advice you can give.
1. Querent's position in the relationship- 3 of Cups
2. Other parties position in the relationship- 10 of Swords (reversed)
3. Basis for the relationship; the past- 5 of Cups
4. What lies between the parties now; the present- Ace of Wands
5. The future of the relationship- The Lovers[/QUOTE]
I would say there is a strong basis here in friendship, in mutual celebration and in joy, but I am questioning the depth of it. too soon to know if the festive friendship and shared merrymaking of the Three can translate into anything deeper. the future holds a major decision, and I'm concerned about the past connection being based on sorrow. there is growing sexual attraction and energy, but the past seems haunted and unresolved.
Most interesting card here, or at least the most enigmatic, is the reversed Ten of Swords. My take on this is that there is a moment here you can take advantage of if you act quickly.It's suggesting if you don't take someaction soon, you will lose an important opportunity and things will deteriorate rapidly.
Now have a look at the Three and the Five of Cups, place them side by side. In the Five, we see three cups spilled and two left standing. The esoteric message here is that the Two of Cups - romantic love - can be a healing force for the sadness of the lost Three. Now you also HAVE the Three in here suggesting joy and shared pleasure, festivity. A strong wound in you calls for healing and something has responded. however, you need to move quickly or risk losing more than you might think.
This spread presents a moment where you are only half conscious of what you want as opposed t what you need, and the fiery wands energy of the Ace is not helping you think clearly. You need some Pentacles groundedness and Swords intellect to help you sort your way though a potentially dangerous but still joyful situation.
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The friendship thing is probably right. I have known him for 2 years, and he is my best friend. We know each other online only. There is a lot of sexual tension and what not. We both want to be together in real life. The sorrow part probably has something to do with we were both not happy people I guess you could say. I was unhappy with my marriage along with having problems dealing with the death of my father. I was basically unhappy with my life at the time. He has his own issues. But the sorrow part has nothing to do with us being sad over each other. I guess I was curious as to what the outcome of me and him would be, because I want to be with him more than anything. I am very much in love with him, and he makes me happy. Hehe, don't worry I wouldn't base a decision like that off of tarot cards.
The friendship thing is probably right. I have known him for 2 years, and he is my best friend. We know each other online only. There is a lot of sexual tension and what not. We both want to be together in real life. The sorrow part probably has something to do with we were both not happy people I guess you could say. I was unhappy with my marriage along with having problems dealing with the death of my father. I was basically unhappy with my life at the time. He has his own issues. But the sorrow part has nothing to do with us being sad over each other. I guess I was curious as to what the outcome of me and him would be, because I want to be with him more than anything. I am very much in love with him, and he makes me happy. Hehe, don't worry I wouldn't base a decision like that off of tarot cards.
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Your post was quite fascinating Feranaja, particularly the relationship you described between the three and five of cups. I take it from your description that the 'Universal Waite' is the Rider/Waite after all so I need no further information on that, thanks. It's always a great pleasure to learn something and to see another point of view, so thanks for that too
Statickitten, I would suggest, even though the spread you used has revealed quite a lot of information, that you perform a much more in-depth reading. I'd be very interested to see the results posted here if you would not be too intimidated by the public display of such personal information.
Your post was quite fascinating Feranaja, particularly the relationship you described between the three and five of cups. I take it from your description that the 'Universal Waite' is the Rider/Waite after all so I need no further information on that, thanks. It's always a great pleasure to learn something and to see another point of view, so thanks for that too
Statickitten, I would suggest, even though the spread you used has revealed quite a lot of information, that you perform a much more in-depth reading. I'd be very interested to see the results posted here if you would not be too intimidated by the public display of such personal information.
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I am new at this and everything, so what spread and question type thing would you recommend I do for an indepth spread? No, I don't mind at all posting.
I am new at this and everything, so what spread and question type thing would you recommend I do for an indepth spread? No, I don't mind at all posting.
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[QUOTE=Caradoc]Your post was quite fascinating Feranaja, particularly the relationship you described between the three and five of cups. I take it from your description that the 'Universal Waite' is the Rider/Waite after all so I need no further information on that, thanks. It's always a great pleasure to learn something and to see another point of view, so thanks for that too
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Yes, the Universal is just a different colour variation on the original Waite/Smith pack.
I've been reading with this deck for so long I have a language of my own within the parametres of meaning the symbolism suggests, so sometimes I might come out with a thing that seems unorthodox, but it's how I have seen the cards function; for me at least, the insight resonates. Hopefully it does with the Querent as well, but there are such limitations to online interpretation. In a real reading I would take the Querent deply into the Five to explore the source of the sorrow, and find her own insight regarding the healing potential of the new relationship. Just one reader's approach of course. I'mjust a guide, they find the answers within.
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[QUOTE=Caradoc]Your post was quite fascinating Feranaja, particularly the relationship you described between the three and five of cups. I take it from your description that the 'Universal Waite' is the Rider/Waite after all so I need no further information on that, thanks. It's always a great pleasure to learn something and to see another point of view, so thanks for that too
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Yes, the Universal is just a different colour variation on the original Waite/Smith pack.
I've been reading with this deck for so long I have a language of my own within the parametres of meaning the symbolism suggests, so sometimes I might come out with a thing that seems unorthodox, but it's how I have seen the cards function; for me at least, the insight resonates. Hopefully it does with the Querent as well, but there are such limitations to online interpretation. In a real reading I would take the Querent deply into the Five to explore the source of the sorrow, and find her own insight regarding the healing potential of the new relationship. Just one reader's approach of course. I'mjust a guide, they find the answers within.
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Ok, I found a more in depth spread. Here are the results I got.
1- Foundationof the relationship - The Star
2-How you feel towards the relationship on a physical level- King of Swords (reversed)
3- How he/she feels towardsthe relationship on a physical level- The Moon
4- How these two energies would combine on a physical level- Page of Pentacles
5-How you feel intellectually about this relationship- 7 of Cups
6- How he/she feels intellectually about this relationship- Queen of Cups
7-How these two energies combine on a mental level- The Tower
8-Where you are emotionally in regards to the relationship- 2 of Swords (reversed)
9- Where he/she is emotionally in regards to the relationship- 8 of Cups
10-How these energies would combine at an emotional level- 10 of swords
11-Advice or Outcome - The Empress
Ok, I found a more in depth spread. Here are the results I got.
1- Foundationof the relationship - The Star
2-How you feel towards the relationship on a physical level- King of Swords (reversed)
3- How he/she feels towardsthe relationship on a physical level- The Moon
4- How these two energies would combine on a physical level- Page of Pentacles
5-How you feel intellectually about this relationship- 7 of Cups
6- How he/she feels intellectually about this relationship- Queen of Cups
7-How these two energies combine on a mental level- The Tower
8-Where you are emotionally in regards to the relationship- 2 of Swords (reversed)
9- Where he/she is emotionally in regards to the relationship- 8 of Cups
10-How these energies would combine at an emotional level- 10 of swords
11-Advice or Outcome - The Empress
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without soley relying on book interpretations of the cards, rely on your intuition when turning over each card, what energy do you immediately get when you see it. if its unclear, work on developing your psychic ability, because you do have some.
without soley relying on book interpretations of the cards, rely on your intuition when turning over each card, what energy do you immediately get when you see it. if its unclear, work on developing your psychic ability, because you do have some.
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[QUOTE=Statickitten]Ok, I found a more in depth spread. Here are the results I got.
1- Foundationof the relationship - The Star
2-How you feel towards the relationship on a physical level- King of Swords (reversed)
3- How he/she feels towardsthe relationship on a physical level- The Moon
4- How these two energies would combine on a physical level- Page of Pentacles
5-How you feel intellectually about this relationship- 7 of Cups
6- How he/she feels intellectually about this relationship- Queen of Cups
7-How these two energies combine on a mental level- The Tower
8-Where you are emotionally in regards to the relationship- 2 of Swords (reversed)
9- Where he/she is emotionally in regards to the relationship- 8 of Cups
10-How these energies would combine at an emotional level- 10 of swords
11-Advice or Outcome - The Empress[/QUOTE]
Ok, first of all, do you want to explore how this reading might unfold, or just a straight commentary on the symbolism?
One way of approaching this spread might be to look at The Star
and the Empress, let's examine that relationship. It looks to me like something created from a basis of hope. What could be created? I see Venus here, but also Demeter (in the Empress). Look hard at the two cards, at the various symbols. (oes this show advice, or outcome? I like to use more precise meanings of the placements. But let's work with what you have).
Now, something stands out for me when I look at these two cards, that start and finish the reading. They contrast in meaning very greatly from the tone of most of the other cards throughout the reading. What is the basis? what is the advice? And what are the facts? I first of all see a schism between reality and wishes, and I'd like you to amplify that thought a little before breaking this all down card by card.
Is there a possible split between the deepest wishes of your heart, and the facts as they now prsent themselves? And could you be projecting those wishes onto an unsuitable situation?
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[QUOTE=Statickitten]Ok, I found a more in depth spread. Here are the results I got.
1- Foundationof the relationship - The Star
2-How you feel towards the relationship on a physical level- King of Swords (reversed)
3- How he/she feels towardsthe relationship on a physical level- The Moon
4- How these two energies would combine on a physical level- Page of Pentacles
5-How you feel intellectually about this relationship- 7 of Cups
6- How he/she feels intellectually about this relationship- Queen of Cups
7-How these two energies combine on a mental level- The Tower
8-Where you are emotionally in regards to the relationship- 2 of Swords (reversed)
9- Where he/she is emotionally in regards to the relationship- 8 of Cups
10-How these energies would combine at an emotional level- 10 of swords
11-Advice or Outcome - The Empress[/QUOTE]
Ok, first of all, do you want to explore how this reading might unfold, or just a straight commentary on the symbolism?
One way of approaching this spread might be to look at The Star
and the Empress, let's examine that relationship. It looks to me like something created from a basis of hope. What could be created? I see Venus here, but also Demeter (in the Empress). Look hard at the two cards, at the various symbols. (oes this show advice, or outcome? I like to use more precise meanings of the placements. But let's work with what you have).
Now, something stands out for me when I look at these two cards, that start and finish the reading. They contrast in meaning very greatly from the tone of most of the other cards throughout the reading. What is the basis? what is the advice? And what are the facts? I first of all see a schism between reality and wishes, and I'd like you to amplify that thought a little before breaking this all down card by card.
Is there a possible split between the deepest wishes of your heart, and the facts as they now prsent themselves? And could you be projecting those wishes onto an unsuitable situation?
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I guess basically I wanna know what would happen if I went that route. I think what you pointed out might be because maybe we want to be together, but it is not possible at the moment.
I guess basically I wanna know what would happen if I went that route. I think what you pointed out might be because maybe we want to be together, but it is not possible at the moment.
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My interpretation seems to relate more to your husband in this spead, i dont know what your question was but: The star shows your hope for the new relationship; youre feeling full of youthful vigour being in love again and the king of swords shows your sense of being judged, that you dont want to be seen as being selfish, or with bad intent. Youre feeling guilty. The moon shows that youre not entirely sure how hefeels, theres a sense of mystery with the moon as to how husband will take your feelings. The moon is peaceful and at a standstill right now, waiting for your next move. Page of Pentacles shows your combined energy is still young yet. Reflect on the messages you recieve, because what youre feeling intellectually about it right now is overshadowed by the emotion of the 7 of cups and the instability of the situation. Queen of cups is his financial stability of your marriage together, he will be honest with you on how he feels and the tower shows this will be tumultuous, the lightening strikes the tower, it is a powerful card in that the impact will transform you. after the storm comes healing, but first it will be difficult to deal with loss and change. Right now you just want peace of mind, and need to relax and just enjoy the hope and love youre feeling. However your energies combined with husband will create a broken heart. your husband still loves you, is still passionate about you..as shown in the moon though he may not always show it. Finally, the empress mother will soon give way to doubt if you decide to fulfill your spirit and heart but it involves action. decide soon, its crucial to all parties involved. tho be prepared for public scrutiny.
My interpretation seems to relate more to your husband in this spead, i dont know what your question was but: The star shows your hope for the new relationship; youre feeling full of youthful vigour being in love again and the king of swords shows your sense of being judged, that you dont want to be seen as being selfish, or with bad intent. Youre feeling guilty. The moon shows that youre not entirely sure how hefeels, theres a sense of mystery with the moon as to how husband will take your feelings. The moon is peaceful and at a standstill right now, waiting for your next move. Page of Pentacles shows your combined energy is still young yet. Reflect on the messages you recieve, because what youre feeling intellectually about it right now is overshadowed by the emotion of the 7 of cups and the instability of the situation. Queen of cups is his financial stability of your marriage together, he will be honest with you on how he feels and the tower shows this will be tumultuous, the lightening strikes the tower, it is a powerful card in that the impact will transform you. after the storm comes healing, but first it will be difficult to deal with loss and change. Right now you just want peace of mind, and need to relax and just enjoy the hope and love youre feeling. However your energies combined with husband will create a broken heart. your husband still loves you, is still passionate about you..as shown in the moon though he may not always show it. Finally, the empress mother will soon give way to doubt if you decide to fulfill your spirit and heart but it involves action. decide soon, its crucial to all parties involved. tho be prepared for public scrutiny.
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Yeah, that sounds pretty much right on I would say.
Yeah, that sounds pretty much right on I would say.