Original post: Mystikiwi
This forum (Gnosticism) is very small...
:idea: Why not expand it to include all the "variations" of early Mystical thought?
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Original post: Ludi
This is something I feel strongly about. I hope pmcv will keep this forum to its scholarly standard, as it is the only forum at OF which is devoted to actual scholarly enquiry and not made up bullshit. I have great admiration for it for that reason, that there be one forum on OF where crap nonsense isn't tolerated.
This is something I feel strongly about. I hope pmcv will keep this forum to its scholarly standard, as it is the only forum at OF which is devoted to actual scholarly enquiry and not made up bullshit. I have great admiration for it for that reason, that there be one forum on OF where crap nonsense isn't tolerated.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
I agree with Ludi, it's the most incisive forum, although I personally don't contribute to it much, it contributes much to me in the form of information I can honestly say has usually come from a knowledgable source...ie, the mod!
I agree with Ludi, it's the most incisive forum, although I personally don't contribute to it much, it contributes much to me in the form of information I can honestly say has usually come from a knowledgable source...ie, the mod!
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Original post: Mystikiwi
So far you're not addressing my main concern ...why is one form of Mysticism promoted and not others?
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/m/mysticism.html
The term "mysticism" comes from the classical Greco-Roman mystery cults...
The ultimate expression of monistic mysticism is perhaps best displayed in the Upanishads of India, as in the concepts of "I am Brahman" (the all-pervading principle) and tat tram asi "that thou art," meaning that the soul is the eternal and Absolute Being. Monistic mysticism is also found in Taoism, which seeks unity with Tao, the ineffable way. Theistic mysticism, unity with God, characterizes Christianity, Judaism (in the Kabbalah), and Islam (the Sufi sect), and is also found in Hinduism.
There are other forms of mysticism throughout the world. Many assume a religious nature according to the beliefs and practices of the practitioners. Most of these states of mysticism commonly possess what is deemed a mystical communion with what is considered sacred...
So far you're not addressing my main concern ...why is one form of Mysticism promoted and not others?
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/m/mysticism.html
The term "mysticism" comes from the classical Greco-Roman mystery cults...
The ultimate expression of monistic mysticism is perhaps best displayed in the Upanishads of India, as in the concepts of "I am Brahman" (the all-pervading principle) and tat tram asi "that thou art," meaning that the soul is the eternal and Absolute Being. Monistic mysticism is also found in Taoism, which seeks unity with Tao, the ineffable way. Theistic mysticism, unity with God, characterizes Christianity, Judaism (in the Kabbalah), and Islam (the Sufi sect), and is also found in Hinduism.
There are other forms of mysticism throughout the world. Many assume a religious nature according to the beliefs and practices of the practitioners. Most of these states of mysticism commonly possess what is deemed a mystical communion with what is considered sacred...
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Original post: Mystikiwi
Never mind ...if you want to leave it as it is... I see that some of the other forms of Mysticism are included in other forums. (Ancient Magic & Mythology and Eastern Faiths mainly.)
Never mind ...if you want to leave it as it is... I see that some of the other forms of Mysticism are included in other forums. (Ancient Magic & Mythology and Eastern Faiths mainly.)
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Original post: Nalyd23
[QUOTE=Mystikiwi]Never mind ...if you want to leave it as it is... I see that some of the other forms of Mysticism are included in other forums. (Ancient Magic & Mythology and Eastern Faiths mainly.)[/QUOTE]Yep, you got it.
[QUOTE=Mystikiwi]Never mind ...if you want to leave it as it is... I see that some of the other forms of Mysticism are included in other forums. (Ancient Magic & Mythology and Eastern Faiths mainly.)[/QUOTE]Yep, you got it.
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Original post: Mystikiwi
I wish I could delete this thread... :-?
Sorry, I'm not perfect yet... :-|
I wish I could delete this thread... :-?
Sorry, I'm not perfect yet... :-|
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Original post: Lotic Trance
Heh, it happens
Just remember that PMCV especially tries to keep this forum to traditional, historic Gnosticism for a reason. That reason being, as I'm sure you'll see the next time you open up a Crowley or LaVey thread in Ceremonial Magick or Satanism, respectively, that shit gets watered down real easily. That, and there's a lot of stuff which passes as "Gnosticism" which has very little to do with the actual religions under that name. See also: the ganking of the term "Gnosis" by Chaoists
Heh, it happens
Just remember that PMCV especially tries to keep this forum to traditional, historic Gnosticism for a reason. That reason being, as I'm sure you'll see the next time you open up a Crowley or LaVey thread in Ceremonial Magick or Satanism, respectively, that shit gets watered down real easily. That, and there's a lot of stuff which passes as "Gnosticism" which has very little to do with the actual religions under that name. See also: the ganking of the term "Gnosis" by Chaoists
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Original post: Paulo
[QUOTE=Mystikiwi]I wish I could delete this thread... :-?
Sorry, I'm not perfect yet... :-|[/QUOTE]
No need to say Sorry or apologized, PMCV will understand. I have great Respect for him and his knowledge about Gnosticism.
His scholarly insights are Treasure like Wealth for everyone here.
[QUOTE=Mystikiwi]I wish I could delete this thread... :-?
Sorry, I'm not perfect yet... :-|[/QUOTE]
No need to say Sorry or apologized, PMCV will understand. I have great Respect for him and his knowledge about Gnosticism.
His scholarly insights are Treasure like Wealth for everyone here.
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Original post: pmcv
Hey Mystikewi, you state....]
As I guess you have already figured... it is because the word "Gnosticism" and "Mysticism" don't actually mean the same thing. However, I really do understand that perhaps the focus here seems particularly specific to many. I wold like to reach some middle ground that communicates the best literary points of the "Gnostic" system.
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Hey Mystikewi, you state....]
So far you're not addressing my main concern ...why is one form of Mysticism promoted and not others?
As I guess you have already figured... it is because the word "Gnosticism" and "Mysticism" don't actually mean the same thing. However, I really do understand that perhaps the focus here seems particularly specific to many. I wold like to reach some middle ground that communicates the best literary points of the "Gnostic" system.
PMCV
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Original post: [Gnostic]a+
damn i love this forum, pmcv does a great job of narrowing it completely down to relevance ! >:)
damn i love this forum, pmcv does a great job of narrowing it completely down to relevance ! >:)