Original post: Wiseone
well i was researching on the internet as usual and i came across something that interested me. by which i mean a topic on how everyone on earth is here to learn a set of lessons. well the site said how the souls of everyone come to earth to learn lessons like in a classroom but only that earth is the classroom.
well now to the point the site says when one soul has no more lessons he/she/it ascends to a higher level. when it says this i thought "so a soul can become a god or something?" well i would like others to help discuss on this and i want to see what everyone says on this. if you dont understand feel free to ask me to clarify and ill be pleased to.
thank you.
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Original post: Rin Daemoko
I also remember reading that souls progress through
the wheel of the Zodiac from Aries to Pisces, learning
the lessons of each sign. If, when they come full
circle, they have not learned, they will repeat the
wheel.
Of course, in Buddhism, one can attain Enlightenment
in a single lifetime. Godhood is not favored because
even the Gods can run out of "good" karma and be
reborn as slugs.
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Original post: Wiseone
well i dont know there are many perspectives on this and i dont know which is true. but i would like to think all of that as true.
but what happens when there is nothing else to learn? will those souls become gods, relearn the lessons once more, or something else? that is what gives me so much curiosity.
well i dont know there are many perspectives on this and i dont know which is true. but i would like to think all of that as true.
but what happens when there is nothing else to learn? will those souls become gods, relearn the lessons once more, or something else? that is what gives me so much curiosity.
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Original post: Mmothra
How about this...we are already gods and there is never an end to learning and growth?
How about this...we are already gods and there is never an end to learning and growth?
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Original post: Wiseone
that is a good way to think of things and well...i dont know there is something nagging on me that says something somehow there is an end somewhere but i dont know that is how i feel.
well i hope to learn more.
that is a good way to think of things and well...i dont know there is something nagging on me that says something somehow there is an end somewhere but i dont know that is how i feel.
well i hope to learn more.
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Original post: Mmothra
I think we all hope to learn more...and that is what makes me pretty certain that there is no end.
But I could be wrong.
These are the questions that make life an adventure, eh?
I think we all hope to learn more...and that is what makes me pretty certain that there is no end.
But I could be wrong.These are the questions that make life an adventure, eh?
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Original post: Wiseone
yes very true and i love to learn! well i hope to learn more on this as i said before.
yes very true and i love to learn! well i hope to learn more on this as i said before.
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Original post: Spaces
"...but what happens when there is nothing else to learn?"___Wiseone
One of the possibilities is that you, whatever constitutes "you" at that point of development, becomes the knowledge which others then learn. You then occupy a different position in the experiential equation. In another sense it could be said that one transcends from being a station to being a circuit.
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"...but what happens when there is nothing else to learn?"___Wiseone
One of the possibilities is that you, whatever constitutes "you" at that point of development, becomes the knowledge which others then learn. You then occupy a different position in the experiential equation. In another sense it could be said that one transcends from being a station to being a circuit.
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Original post: kollision
Ascend meaning to go to a higher plane of existance. It does not mean you become a god or even close to that.
Ascend meaning to go to a higher plane of existance. It does not mean you become a god or even close to that.
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Original post: Wiseone
well that is what im wondering though but ill have to wait as ive asked the website owner of where i got this from so ill have to wait. or i could ask my own spirit guides to find out.
well that is what im wondering though but ill have to wait as ive asked the website owner of where i got this from so ill have to wait. or i could ask my own spirit guides to find out.
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Original post: kollision
ask your spirit guides, they should be more knowledgable.
ask your spirit guides, they should be more knowledgable.
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Original post: LadyHydralisk
Yeah kind of a repetitive theme throughout the occult, is the pattern of learning, not in a circle, but in a spiral, you repeat certain lessons but on a different level. For example, pathworking through:
1. The Tree of Life (sephiroth)
2. The Alchemical Processes (Emerald Tablet)
3. The wheel of reincarnation (Hinduism)
The end, being reuniting with the source in an ever driving push for sloughing off your old skin and purifying yourself.
I believe we are small gods, already, as magicians. Other humans, too but they are still on the brink of godhood and of falling into the pit of hatred. Love is key!
Yeah kind of a repetitive theme throughout the occult, is the pattern of learning, not in a circle, but in a spiral, you repeat certain lessons but on a different level. For example, pathworking through:
1. The Tree of Life (sephiroth)
2. The Alchemical Processes (Emerald Tablet)
3. The wheel of reincarnation (Hinduism)
The end, being reuniting with the source in an ever driving push for sloughing off your old skin and purifying yourself.
I believe we are small gods, already, as magicians. Other humans, too but they are still on the brink of godhood and of falling into the pit of hatred. Love is key!
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[QUOTE=Spaces]"...but what happens when there is nothing else to learn?"___Wiseone
One of the possibilities is that you, whatever constitutes "you" at that point of development, becomes the knowledge which others then learn. You then occupy a different position in the experiential equation. In another sense it could be said that one transcends from being a station to being a circuit.
Spaces[/QUOTE]
I have to say that this is the closest to my belief. Though Mmothra brings up a very valid point, one which is actually very positive (unless you are one of those that believes there HAS to be an ultimate ending). But I do disagree a bit.
I believe everything has a beginning and an ending. You can't have a new beginning without an ending and you can't have an ending without a new beginning. That is just my personal belief. That being said, I believe that if we actually ever attain "full, complete, unabridged" knowledge, that we then in turn become part of that knowledge, part of the entity, part of the energy. We become what is invoked or evoked, just one of the many facets of it. To kind of explain this theory (and that is all it is as I have no proof - how could I?), when you do a summoning, you are focusing on aspects, for me, that are the energy signatures of a belief, idea, emotion and various other things that have all been rolled into one and given a name, be it Isis, God, Kali, Buddha, or Bob the Big Blue Marshmallow Fluff, that the individual connects with. It is only one part of the whole. And within that whole are the different aspects. I just believe we become a different aspect of the whole. We may be similar to something that is already part of the whole, but we will have our own little differences that others in the future may relate to.
As far as how long it would take to acquire said knowledge, I would go out on a limb and call it eternity. As the thought of eternity is so large that most can't begin to grasp the "hugeness" of it (I have only a small inkling), I think it would be fair to say that as the knowledge progresses, we begin to see that maybe, just maybe, eternity isn't eternal.
Just my little theory. Like I said, I can't really defend it because these are just things based on what I believe. Proving belief is as impossible (okay, maybe only improbable) as elephants flying.
[QUOTE=Spaces]"...but what happens when there is nothing else to learn?"___Wiseone
One of the possibilities is that you, whatever constitutes "you" at that point of development, becomes the knowledge which others then learn. You then occupy a different position in the experiential equation. In another sense it could be said that one transcends from being a station to being a circuit.
Spaces[/QUOTE]
I have to say that this is the closest to my belief. Though Mmothra brings up a very valid point, one which is actually very positive (unless you are one of those that believes there HAS to be an ultimate ending). But I do disagree a bit.
I believe everything has a beginning and an ending. You can't have a new beginning without an ending and you can't have an ending without a new beginning. That is just my personal belief. That being said, I believe that if we actually ever attain "full, complete, unabridged" knowledge, that we then in turn become part of that knowledge, part of the entity, part of the energy. We become what is invoked or evoked, just one of the many facets of it. To kind of explain this theory (and that is all it is as I have no proof - how could I?), when you do a summoning, you are focusing on aspects, for me, that are the energy signatures of a belief, idea, emotion and various other things that have all been rolled into one and given a name, be it Isis, God, Kali, Buddha, or Bob the Big Blue Marshmallow Fluff, that the individual connects with. It is only one part of the whole. And within that whole are the different aspects. I just believe we become a different aspect of the whole. We may be similar to something that is already part of the whole, but we will have our own little differences that others in the future may relate to.
As far as how long it would take to acquire said knowledge, I would go out on a limb and call it eternity. As the thought of eternity is so large that most can't begin to grasp the "hugeness" of it (I have only a small inkling), I think it would be fair to say that as the knowledge progresses, we begin to see that maybe, just maybe, eternity isn't eternal.
Just my little theory. Like I said, I can't really defend it because these are just things based on what I believe. Proving belief is as impossible (okay, maybe only improbable) as elephants flying.
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Original post: babyalien
I believe all beings have a beginning and a ending, as we know all things have spirit, and maybe some find ways into a new body or another plane, I don't have belief that reincarnation is for all, IT IS POSSIBLE, and only for the lucky.
not everybody learns, it's more down to will, who wants more
I believe all beings have a beginning and a ending, as we know all things have spirit, and maybe some find ways into a new body or another plane, I don't have belief that reincarnation is for all, IT IS POSSIBLE, and only for the lucky.
not everybody learns, it's more down to will, who wants more
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[QUOTE=Mmothra]I think we all hope to learn more...and that is what makes me pretty certain that there is no end. But I could be wrong.
These are the questions that make life an adventure, eh?[/QUOTE]
I do not care if the universe is infinate, I believe logic means nothing when we judge such matters.... after trillions of years we come along, and all we see is black space, some times things express them self as they are better than anything!
this is not a evil world, it's just that earth has so many people that only the competitive are (showing up), so the pretty are eaten and the ugly broots breed on, so all this time we have a strongish, stupid race.
co's I have all my life shaked my head to why we don;t learn, it's only that the dicks that don't see the picture are those who have no fear, of the damage they do to all living things including planets and fleez...
I wish balance as all the beauty is covered by the demonic laughs
[QUOTE=Mmothra]I think we all hope to learn more...and that is what makes me pretty certain that there is no end.
But I could be wrong.These are the questions that make life an adventure, eh?[/QUOTE]
I do not care if the universe is infinate, I believe logic means nothing when we judge such matters.... after trillions of years we come along, and all we see is black space, some times things express them self as they are better than anything!
this is not a evil world, it's just that earth has so many people that only the competitive are (showing up), so the pretty are eaten and the ugly broots breed on, so all this time we have a strongish, stupid race.
co's I have all my life shaked my head to why we don;t learn, it's only that the dicks that don't see the picture are those who have no fear, of the damage they do to all living things including planets and fleez...
I wish balance as all the beauty is covered by the demonic laughs
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Original post: Wiseone
well i agree with yu doh on what you say as it is close to what im believing as well. but to me enernity isnt forever to me and that well i dont think it can go on forever as there is an end for everything in this universe like the sun cant be there forever or or galaxy to be in the same spot forever you know?
well i agree with yu doh on what you say as it is close to what im believing as well. but to me enernity isnt forever to me and that well i dont think it can go on forever as there is an end for everything in this universe like the sun cant be there forever or or galaxy to be in the same spot forever you know?
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Original post: babyalien
everything is always changing without notice.
we talk on, but this is belief and logic that will not find the truth, maybe science or a super obe
everything is always changing without notice.
we talk on, but this is belief and logic that will not find the truth, maybe science or a super obe
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Original post: cpmg_101
Can one really have no more lessons to learn? even the final stage of the universe, the void, will change everytime it turns a cycle. There is no limit to learning and changing.
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Can one really have no more lessons to learn? even the final stage of the universe, the void, will change everytime it turns a cycle. There is no limit to learning and changing.
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Original post: Wiseone
well what i believe is there is an end for everything. i dont know that is what i believe anyhow.
well what i believe is there is an end for everything. i dont know that is what i believe anyhow.