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well withh what i posted earlier be careful what you wish for as it sometimes can backfire on you or something like that. so even though you use magic for money and sex you should still be catious as vthere is bound to be something that can go wrong.
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This thread is good - Malkuth counts too, you know!
A lot of people here seem to focus only on a "higher level of existence". You cannot be successful in Malkuth, so you are looking for another sphere, where all success is subjetive. Doesn't sound like magick to me. More like self-deception.
This thread is good - Malkuth counts too, you know!
A lot of people here seem to focus only on a "higher level of existence". You cannot be successful in Malkuth, so you are looking for another sphere, where all success is subjetive. Doesn't sound like magick to me. More like self-deception.
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[QUOTE=kuahji]Personally, I do not have a lot of money or material goods. At one point when I started my journey through out the wonderous world of magick, that's all I wanted. Now I realize that material goods will only cast a stasis on my spiritual growth. Once you free yourself of the seven deadly sins, then the true spiritual development begins. It makes practicing true magick possible. Lower forms of magick just seem to hinder your growth. This is of course my opinion.
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Hi Kuahji,
i believe each person is entitled to choose his/her own way so i find it nice that you are following your own.
i wonder curiously though, during the time when you wanted money and material goods - did you get such stuff through magick?
[QUOTE=kuahji]Personally, I do not have a lot of money or material goods. At one point when I started my journey through out the wonderous world of magick, that's all I wanted. Now I realize that material goods will only cast a stasis on my spiritual growth. Once you free yourself of the seven deadly sins, then the true spiritual development begins. It makes practicing true magick possible. Lower forms of magick just seem to hinder your growth. This is of course my opinion.
[/QUOTE] Hi Kuahji,
i believe each person is entitled to choose his/her own way so i find it nice that you are following your own.
i wonder curiously though, during the time when you wanted money and material goods - did you get such stuff through magick?
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Väkisinkastettu]I have made a pact with the Master. He provides me the wisdom and the funds needed to complete my two tasks; Construct a mighty Temple for Him and to perform the Grand Act in which no one else has ever succeeded.
Currently I'm making some 50 000 USD a year. It will take me only a few more years before the construction can begin.
Perhaps the reason why no one else seems to get any real results from their 'quests' is that they are but fools in the wrong path, the juwes and the yhvh hold no gnosis, only a handful of lies...[/QUOTE]
Are you a finnish satanist? I am always a bit scared when I meet members of that group.
Nice successful outcome of the deal you made with your Master
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[QUOTE=Väkisinkastettu]I have made a pact with the Master. He provides me the wisdom and the funds needed to complete my two tasks; Construct a mighty Temple for Him and to perform the Grand Act in which no one else has ever succeeded.
Currently I'm making some 50 000 USD a year. It will take me only a few more years before the construction can begin.
Perhaps the reason why no one else seems to get any real results from their 'quests' is that they are but fools in the wrong path, the juwes and the yhvh hold no gnosis, only a handful of lies...[/QUOTE]
Are you a finnish satanist? I am always a bit scared when I meet members of that group.
Nice successful outcome of the deal you made with your Master
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[QUOTE=LasciviousXXX]Yes, you understand me perfectly. When I was just beginning I was very stupid and greedy and did one of those "All I wish for is a crapload of money" type rituals without taking the time to fully study the means by which to go about this type of working. In my haste to "get rich quick" I came into quite a bit of money (over $5000). However it backfired on me and as quickly as the money came to me, it left me in a tedious fashion. I ended up owing more money than I had originally recieved.
I don't think anywhere in my original post did I say anything about this ALWAYS being the case....... let me check........ nope, nowhere in there. In fact quite the opposite is true. After my financial blunder I started to take my magical practices more seriously and through study and knowledge was able to learn the correct way to proceed with such a working. I was successful and came into a good deal of money ($4000) but I also included in the ritual a means in which to be financially stable so that my money problems would no longer be an issue. Soon afterwards I obtained a job which I desired very much and now make a considerable amount of money per year working for the government. I no longer live paycheck to paycheck and am able to afford the types of things I want for my family without having to work harder.
No, it was not hastily derived. My statement was, "If someone (not specifically NOXLUX) asks Can doing magick make me rich?
My point was not aimed at you it was an example of the type of question one usually gets asked by people. It was basically a lead-in to my next sentence. So yes, I DO believe that if someone were to ask "Can Doing Magick Make Me Rich", they ARE too lazy and un-motivated to achieve anything with their own will, if such is the case then magic is definitely not for them as it takes a good bit of will to achieve palpable results.
Sure. I would be happy to give an example. In my experience (which is what you asked for) money is obtained through a couple of different ways.
1. You can work for it
2. It can be given to you
3. You can make it work for you
There are many other ways but for the sake of brevity we will focus on these.
Traditionally, peopel obtain money by getting up and going to a job, going home and then recieving a paycheck for what they do. The Uber Rich inherit their money and SOME of them don't have to worry about it for the rest of their lives. However there are some who shrug off the traditional way of making money and use their own money to turn a profit, these type of people are called entrepreneurs. They use their knowledge of both human nature and Economic need in order to cater to the masses. In this way they are able to make their money (ie. their intial investment) work for them.
How does magic come into this? I'll tell you. I used ritual in order to speak with one of my patron Gods. I inquired into the ways in which money can be made with only minimal groundwork. He explained to me the intricacies of economics and told me which companies would yield the most return for the amount of work I wanted to put in. So, with this "insider" knowledge I obtained the type of money I wanted to make and was able to be financially stable. Now I do the Job that I WANT to do and don't worry about how I'm going to pay the bills.
As for how power creates money. That should be relatively obvious. Money follows power. Any type of power. You could be the poorest person in the world but through the power of exercising your will over people it is easy to suggest/entice/manipulate/force people to give you their money. Example you say??? Fine, look at the way delegates raise money for their campaigns. Its not because people like you sooooo much they just want to give you all their money. Its because companies know that delegates would have the power to accomplish their needs and maybe vote policies in the interest of said companies. Or, on the flip side, companies donate funds because they know delegates would have the POWER to vote against their best interest. Money is given out of fear and personal interst for power. Money follows power.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for a very informative post. It seems to me that you have achieved exactly the kind of success I am curious about.
[QUOTE=LasciviousXXX]Yes, you understand me perfectly. When I was just beginning I was very stupid and greedy and did one of those "All I wish for is a crapload of money" type rituals without taking the time to fully study the means by which to go about this type of working. In my haste to "get rich quick" I came into quite a bit of money (over $5000). However it backfired on me and as quickly as the money came to me, it left me in a tedious fashion. I ended up owing more money than I had originally recieved.
I don't think anywhere in my original post did I say anything about this ALWAYS being the case....... let me check........ nope, nowhere in there. In fact quite the opposite is true. After my financial blunder I started to take my magical practices more seriously and through study and knowledge was able to learn the correct way to proceed with such a working. I was successful and came into a good deal of money ($4000) but I also included in the ritual a means in which to be financially stable so that my money problems would no longer be an issue. Soon afterwards I obtained a job which I desired very much and now make a considerable amount of money per year working for the government. I no longer live paycheck to paycheck and am able to afford the types of things I want for my family without having to work harder.
No, it was not hastily derived. My statement was, "If someone (not specifically NOXLUX) asks Can doing magick make me rich?
My point was not aimed at you it was an example of the type of question one usually gets asked by people. It was basically a lead-in to my next sentence. So yes, I DO believe that if someone were to ask "Can Doing Magick Make Me Rich", they ARE too lazy and un-motivated to achieve anything with their own will, if such is the case then magic is definitely not for them as it takes a good bit of will to achieve palpable results.
Sure. I would be happy to give an example. In my experience (which is what you asked for) money is obtained through a couple of different ways.
1. You can work for it
2. It can be given to you
3. You can make it work for you
There are many other ways but for the sake of brevity we will focus on these.
Traditionally, peopel obtain money by getting up and going to a job, going home and then recieving a paycheck for what they do. The Uber Rich inherit their money and SOME of them don't have to worry about it for the rest of their lives. However there are some who shrug off the traditional way of making money and use their own money to turn a profit, these type of people are called entrepreneurs. They use their knowledge of both human nature and Economic need in order to cater to the masses. In this way they are able to make their money (ie. their intial investment) work for them.
How does magic come into this? I'll tell you. I used ritual in order to speak with one of my patron Gods. I inquired into the ways in which money can be made with only minimal groundwork. He explained to me the intricacies of economics and told me which companies would yield the most return for the amount of work I wanted to put in. So, with this "insider" knowledge I obtained the type of money I wanted to make and was able to be financially stable. Now I do the Job that I WANT to do and don't worry about how I'm going to pay the bills.
As for how power creates money. That should be relatively obvious. Money follows power. Any type of power. You could be the poorest person in the world but through the power of exercising your will over people it is easy to suggest/entice/manipulate/force people to give you their money. Example you say??? Fine, look at the way delegates raise money for their campaigns. Its not because people like you sooooo much they just want to give you all their money. Its because companies know that delegates would have the power to accomplish their needs and maybe vote policies in the interest of said companies. Or, on the flip side, companies donate funds because they know delegates would have the POWER to vote against their best interest. Money is given out of fear and personal interst for power. Money follows power.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for a very informative post. It seems to me that you have achieved exactly the kind of success I am curious about.
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]Well I used to have lots of sex and lots of money before I got into occultism/spirituality. Now I'm poor and don't have any women around with whom I have sex.
So I'm an example of the reversed situation. My goal is now to live as simply and as balanced as possible without superfluous attachments (ie. sex for the sex of it and money for the greed of it).[/QUOTE]
:-)
Why? What do you wish to attain through having that?
:-)
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]Well I used to have lots of sex and lots of money before I got into occultism/spirituality. Now I'm poor and don't have any women around with whom I have sex.
So I'm an example of the reversed situation. My goal is now to live as simply and as balanced as possible without superfluous attachments (ie. sex for the sex of it and money for the greed of it).[/QUOTE]
:-)
Why? What do you wish to attain through having that?
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=visceral/spagyrical]I got an ATM to give me $40 when all I punched in was $20. My receipt said $20 was taken out of my account, but two bills said $40 was taken out of the machine.
I got a free book that day.
How's that for magic?
v/s
Edit: no regrets. no bad karma. the book was fantastic.[/QUOTE]
Very nice, even though I am amazed by the words "bad karma" being mentioned in the same sentence as 20 bucks ... gee, if the karmic powers are that fucking stingy who wants to have anything to do with them?
I also want to ask you a question: what specifically did you do in order to get the ATM to give you 20 extra bucks?
[QUOTE=visceral/spagyrical]I got an ATM to give me $40 when all I punched in was $20. My receipt said $20 was taken out of my account, but two bills said $40 was taken out of the machine.
I got a free book that day.
How's that for magic?
v/s
Edit: no regrets. no bad karma. the book was fantastic.[/QUOTE]
Very nice, even though I am amazed by the words "bad karma" being mentioned in the same sentence as 20 bucks ... gee, if the karmic powers are that fucking stingy who wants to have anything to do with them?
I also want to ask you a question: what specifically did you do in order to get the ATM to give you 20 extra bucks?
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Sadb]Actually I do spells for money and good outcome alot .
But I've never done it for myself .
If a friend has no other option and asks me to form a spell I will .
But I dont think I would ever do a spell for serious cash
because I believe " easy come easy go" as my grandfarther put it .
And I tell this to anyone that asks me for a spell .[/QUOTE]
Considering the concept of placebo and selffullfilling prophexies - do you consider it wise to tell people that they will loose what they gain?
[QUOTE=Sadb]Actually I do spells for money and good outcome alot .
But I've never done it for myself .
If a friend has no other option and asks me to form a spell I will .
But I dont think I would ever do a spell for serious cash
because I believe " easy come easy go" as my grandfarther put it .
And I tell this to anyone that asks me for a spell .[/QUOTE]
Considering the concept of placebo and selffullfilling prophexies - do you consider it wise to tell people that they will loose what they gain?
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=DevilsDelight]sex!...i'll form and visualize what and why i have the need and then get a whispering of inspiration...i follow the forming instructions, find what i need for attuning the proper energies, thank those who offered the guidance do the ritual or spell, bathe in an aromatic water while thinking of all the good things that will happen if it's granted and then engage in some amazing sex continuing my focus on the need...solo or with partner if available...and viola...desire granted...occasionally if it's something specific, i'll call upon specific entities, and get into more...detailed ritual sex, but usually, i just leave it to whoever desires to grant me my request...there's always someone watching out for me...
not very restrained, but i've never had a request denied...
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Nice :-)
[QUOTE=DevilsDelight]sex!...i'll form and visualize what and why i have the need and then get a whispering of inspiration...i follow the forming instructions, find what i need for attuning the proper energies, thank those who offered the guidance do the ritual or spell, bathe in an aromatic water while thinking of all the good things that will happen if it's granted and then engage in some amazing sex continuing my focus on the need...solo or with partner if available...and viola...desire granted...occasionally if it's something specific, i'll call upon specific entities, and get into more...detailed ritual sex, but usually, i just leave it to whoever desires to grant me my request...there's always someone watching out for me...
not very restrained, but i've never had a request denied...
[/QUOTE] Nice :-)
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=She Demon Wolf]If you're just using magick to get money and sex, you shouldn't be using magick at all. It's the same as saying that you're playing music just to get the above. A waste of time and opportunity.[/QUOTE]
Your reasoning fails to convince me.
[QUOTE=She Demon Wolf]If you're just using magick to get money and sex, you shouldn't be using magick at all. It's the same as saying that you're playing music just to get the above. A waste of time and opportunity.[/QUOTE]
Your reasoning fails to convince me.
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[QUOTE=Noxlux]Actually I am not so much interested in being nice as I am in provoking people into positions of freedom.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, you don't even seem to have basic manners.
cpmg_101
[QUOTE=Noxlux]Actually I am not so much interested in being nice as I am in provoking people into positions of freedom.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, you don't even seem to have basic manners.
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Wiseone]you should still be catious as vthere is bound to be something that can go wrong.[/QUOTE]
That is a truism often applied unwisely. Any particular reason why it should be applied to the topic at hand?
[QUOTE=Wiseone]you should still be catious as vthere is bound to be something that can go wrong.[/QUOTE]
That is a truism often applied unwisely. Any particular reason why it should be applied to the topic at hand?
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=cpmg_101]Agreed, you don't even seem to have basic manners.
cpmg_101[/QUOTE]I guess it is a matter of perspective. From my perspective your post is rather lacking in informativeness and superflous in evaluative statements.
How specificly would you have liked to see react to be in accordance with your concept of basic manners?
[QUOTE=cpmg_101]Agreed, you don't even seem to have basic manners.
cpmg_101[/QUOTE]I guess it is a matter of perspective. From my perspective your post is rather lacking in informativeness and superflous in evaluative statements.
How specificly would you have liked to see react to be in accordance with your concept of basic manners?
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Original post: Sud Ram
What do I wish to attain? Nothing really, every thing is at hand and already contained within me. My practice is to make this more obvious as I go through life.
When I'm in tune with Nature I'm happy, when I'm not and indulge into the attachments then I'm not happy and start worrying and create expectations and frustrations etc.
So this is why I choose simplicity. It works for me and the magic happens just naturally as the Universe unfolds itself.
What do I wish to attain? Nothing really, every thing is at hand and already contained within me. My practice is to make this more obvious as I go through life.
When I'm in tune with Nature I'm happy, when I'm not and indulge into the attachments then I'm not happy and start worrying and create expectations and frustrations etc.
So this is why I choose simplicity. It works for me and the magic happens just naturally as the Universe unfolds itself.
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]What do I wish to attain? Nothing really, every thing is at hand and already contained within me. My practice is to make this more obvious as I go through life.
When I'm in tune with Nature I'm happy, when I'm not and indulge into the attachments then I'm not happy and start worrying and create expectations and frustrations etc.
So this is why I choose simplicity. It works for me and the magic happens just naturally as the Universe unfolds itself.[/QUOTE]
Language is sometimes tricky. I did not mean to imply that you were after some Thing. Being in tune with Nature or being happy certainly qualifies :-)
May I ask you, do you wish to be in tune with nature Because it makes you happy, or are there other reasons?
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]What do I wish to attain? Nothing really, every thing is at hand and already contained within me. My practice is to make this more obvious as I go through life.
When I'm in tune with Nature I'm happy, when I'm not and indulge into the attachments then I'm not happy and start worrying and create expectations and frustrations etc.
So this is why I choose simplicity. It works for me and the magic happens just naturally as the Universe unfolds itself.[/QUOTE]
Language is sometimes tricky. I did not mean to imply that you were after some Thing. Being in tune with Nature or being happy certainly qualifies :-)
May I ask you, do you wish to be in tune with nature Because it makes you happy, or are there other reasons?
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Original post: Sud Ram
The mind can find infinite reasons to justify any decision. I could write a whole book about why I've decided to be in tune with Nature.
So yes you can ask, but I think I've already answered the question. I believe happiness, love, harmony, peace and all these nice words that have dropped into the "fluffy" category are what make life worth living. And with me, this happens through being in harmony with Nature.
I can't seem to see anything more magical than this.
The mind can find infinite reasons to justify any decision. I could write a whole book about why I've decided to be in tune with Nature.
So yes you can ask, but I think I've already answered the question. I believe happiness, love, harmony, peace and all these nice words that have dropped into the "fluffy" category are what make life worth living. And with me, this happens through being in harmony with Nature.
I can't seem to see anything more magical than this.
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]The mind can find infinite reasons to justify any decision. I could write a whole book about why I've decided to be in tune with Nature.
So yes you can ask, but I think I've already answered the question. I believe happiness, love, harmony, peace and all these nice words that have dropped into the "fluffy" category are what make life worth living. And with me, this happens through being in harmony with Nature.
I can't seem to see anything more magical than this.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your reply. I beleive that those words, love, harmony, peace, although a bit fluffy, can also in some contexts, such as this to some extent, provide meaning nevertheless.
I also like people who manifest them and act from them.
Me, I still want money and sex, but my best to you Sud Ram.
[QUOTE=Sud Ram]The mind can find infinite reasons to justify any decision. I could write a whole book about why I've decided to be in tune with Nature.
So yes you can ask, but I think I've already answered the question. I believe happiness, love, harmony, peace and all these nice words that have dropped into the "fluffy" category are what make life worth living. And with me, this happens through being in harmony with Nature.
I can't seem to see anything more magical than this.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your reply. I beleive that those words, love, harmony, peace, although a bit fluffy, can also in some contexts, such as this to some extent, provide meaning nevertheless.
I also like people who manifest them and act from them.
Me, I still want money and sex, but my best to you Sud Ram.
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[QUOTE=Noxlux]Considering the concept of placebo and selffullfilling prophexies - do you consider it wise to tell people that they will loose what they gain?[/QUOTE]
Why when I gain nothing ? Any way maybe theyll be wiser . But that doesn't happen. I never do a spell if I think that gain will be lost . I believe also in karma . And only once did I send out nagative energy and it backfired . I only ever said this as a warning to anyone who did not think things over . I dont know why I'm writing back it seems like you just want people to get mad at you . But I'm not , I have all the patiance in the world
[QUOTE=Noxlux]Considering the concept of placebo and selffullfilling prophexies - do you consider it wise to tell people that they will loose what they gain?[/QUOTE]
Why when I gain nothing ? Any way maybe theyll be wiser . But that doesn't happen. I never do a spell if I think that gain will be lost . I believe also in karma . And only once did I send out nagative energy and it backfired . I only ever said this as a warning to anyone who did not think things over . I dont know why I'm writing back it seems like you just want people to get mad at you . But I'm not , I have all the patiance in the world
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same here when you post sometimes noxlux i woould want to write back harshly at you but i choose not to as it would not solve anything by arguing or what not. and it is simply not who i am or want to be anymore.
same here when you post sometimes noxlux i woould want to write back harshly at you but i choose not to as it would not solve anything by arguing or what not. and it is simply not who i am or want to be anymore.
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Noxlux
I know your just trying to get a debate going and I love good religion based debate . But to some it looks as though your insulting rather than saying your opinions on the subject .
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I know your just trying to get a debate going and I love good religion based debate . But to some it looks as though your insulting rather than saying your opinions on the subject .
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Whatever. You get what you send back and I'm not even entering into this debate.
However, I will tell you Noxlux, to cease and desist with the posting of multiple answers one right after the other. Even if you are addressing different people or ideas, please contain it within one post. What you are doing is considered post whoring and if it continues you will be issued a warning.
Whatever. You get what you send back and I'm not even entering into this debate.
However, I will tell you Noxlux, to cease and desist with the posting of multiple answers one right after the other. Even if you are addressing different people or ideas, please contain it within one post. What you are doing is considered post whoring and if it continues you will be issued a warning.
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Original post: Jenfucius
[QUOTE=Wiseone]not true though some of my friends who practice magic that are really hot and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Prove it! Show us some pictures!
.....I mean can we meet them? ;-) :razz:
He He
[QUOTE=Wiseone]not true though some of my friends who practice magic that are really hot and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Prove it! Show us some pictures!
.....I mean can we meet them? ;-) :razz:
He He
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Original post: Wiseone
well no since they are not some slut you can hook up with automatically. they want some dedicated guys who would care for them and stuff.
well no since they are not some slut you can hook up with automatically. they want some dedicated guys who would care for them and stuff.
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Original post: Daleth
Are all musicians rock stars?
Are all musicians rock stars?
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Are all occultists millionaires with the sexlife of a rockstar?
Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=Sadb]Why when I gain nothing ? Any way maybe theyll be wiser . But that doesn't happen. I never do a spell if I think that gain will be lost . I believe also in karma . And only once did I send out nagative energy and it backfired . I only ever said this as a warning to anyone who did not think things over . I dont know why I'm writing back it seems like you just want people to get mad at you . But I'm not , I have all the patiance in the world[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I did not intend to sound as if I suspected you of being selfish by providing your advice.
[QUOTE=Sadb]Noxlux
I know your just trying to get a debate going and I love good religion based debate . But to some it looks as though your insulting rather than saying your opinions on the subject .[/QUOTE]
Well, I have a habit of being provokative on messageboards. It is often an effective way to provoke responses. Unfortunately it does not always provoke the responses I want :-)
[QUOTE=doh]Whatever. You get what you send back and I'm not even entering into this debate.
However, I will tell you Noxlux, to cease and desist with the posting of multiple answers one right after the other. Even if you are addressing different people or ideas, please contain it within one post. What you are doing is considered post whoring and if it continues you will be issued a warning.[/QUOTE]
My apologies. I did not know this. I will change my ways.
"Postwhoring" ... ugh, thats an ugly word. :-)
[QUOTE=Daleth]Are all musicians rock stars?[/QUOTE]
Good point.
BTW I liked the way you framed your post in the other thread.
[QUOTE=Sadb]Why when I gain nothing ? Any way maybe theyll be wiser . But that doesn't happen. I never do a spell if I think that gain will be lost . I believe also in karma . And only once did I send out nagative energy and it backfired . I only ever said this as a warning to anyone who did not think things over . I dont know why I'm writing back it seems like you just want people to get mad at you . But I'm not , I have all the patiance in the world
[/QUOTE] Sorry, I did not intend to sound as if I suspected you of being selfish by providing your advice.
[QUOTE=Sadb]Noxlux
I know your just trying to get a debate going and I love good religion based debate . But to some it looks as though your insulting rather than saying your opinions on the subject .[/QUOTE]
Well, I have a habit of being provokative on messageboards. It is often an effective way to provoke responses. Unfortunately it does not always provoke the responses I want :-)
[QUOTE=doh]Whatever. You get what you send back and I'm not even entering into this debate.
However, I will tell you Noxlux, to cease and desist with the posting of multiple answers one right after the other. Even if you are addressing different people or ideas, please contain it within one post. What you are doing is considered post whoring and if it continues you will be issued a warning.[/QUOTE]
My apologies. I did not know this. I will change my ways.
"Postwhoring" ... ugh, thats an ugly word. :-)
[QUOTE=Daleth]Are all musicians rock stars?[/QUOTE]
Good point.
BTW I liked the way you framed your post in the other thread.