Dreams And Their Interpretations

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Original post: -Soulless-

[QUOTE=darkshadow]Now to your dream. Did you appear to be older in your dream or was it just the girl who was older? I'm just curious on that part. Regardless of that I think I might know what your dream means. I believe that at one time there was a mystical war fought, a war which very few people know about. I also believe that this mystical war is about to break out again. There is a thread in the Witchcraft section entitled "Have you heard of this?". In this thread it talks about four elemental witch warriors. I think a post in that thread said that there were knights to protect the witch warriors. From the way your dream sounds, I think that you are one of those knights. If I am correct on that you might want to learn how to fight with a sword and what elemental power you possess. I think that the knights also had elemental powers though not as strong as the witch warriors.[/QUOTE]Yes, I actually was older. To the point I didn't know who I was. I should have described myself in my previous post but, it slipped my mind. Thus I shall do now. I had pale skin, just like the girl. My hair and eyes where brown (Which happens to be the color of my hair and eyes.). My hair was short. My face had a scar from the top of my right eye down to the bottom of my face. It looked a little unrealistic, so this may be from a different dream I had, but I can't remember at the moment. I was dressed unprepared for battle, for I don't believe I was given time to prepare. I could guess I was the age of 20-30. All I know is I definatly wasn't thirteen heh. I could tell for some reason that I was really much older and wiser for my age although. That is an interesting thing you've said about the sword though. A year or two ago, my brother brought home two wooden swords he'd made in his woodshop class. Ever since then I've become interested in swordsmenship and ever spared with him a few times heh.

Regarding your encounter with this shadowy entity... Could you be claustrophobic? Mabye it attacks you with your worst fears? I recall several dreams where a hooded man with two yellow eyes was standing above me. He pulls out a knife and stabs my chest. This is the worst for me. I can't stand getting cut. I can take pain like punches or falling down, but I could never cut myself if I wanted to. Just a thought...

Kazahel: Something like this happened to me before. I have scars on my body and I have no idea how I got them. I've had many dreams in which I've been cut/stabbed/bruised and woke up with scars/marks. One day I woke up and noticed a scar on my right cheek, it's hard to notice but, when close up with a mirror you can see it very well. I knew I had some important dream the night before, but unfortunatlly I could not recall it ...

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

Oooh I had a doozie last night.

it was quick, but potent. I dreamed I was in a local wooded area (I live in the country and walk in a forest daily) I think I was with my father but it was definitely a male figure who is uncomfortable with snakes. suddenly, a snake emerged from a tree - in canada we have no lareg snakes, the rat snake is about the largest here and this was adult boa sized - and it came towards us. I was cautious but not afraid as I keep snakes and am well used to their ways. This one was headed toward us not in a hunting posture but the man with me was terrified. AS she emerged from the tree I saw she was pregnant. It was a beautiful almost rapturous moment for me. All of it- the snake, her pregnancy, the calm I felt and the fear in the male figure (which I felt was silly and weak, although in waking life I would never feel that way). I felt infused with possibility and strength.

Im putting together a few things here - snakes are symbols of transformation and regeneration, and that makes sense to me in terms of my waking life; the pregnancy could represent a new life - I have dreamed of being pregnant many times lately and its NOT "the clock ticking" lol - and since Ive been dominated by men most of my life the power I felt in connection with this man could symbolize taking ownership of my own power - which is regenerative, sensual and mysterious, like a pregnantsnake>?

Any thoughts?
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Original post: Nuhad418

Well knowing you and your unconscious language somewhat I will give my coppers on this. For once the negative animus that is (or rather has been?) known to you is far more passive...too passive I would say, more on that later.

Snakes and trees, common themes to be linked together for sure, often represent aspects of the unconscious. The Snake especially, would be the deeper recesses of the unconscious. Here is the issue with the male figure. Lets assume for a moment that it is not your father in actuallity, in other words lets skip to amplification (its more fun and less filling!) If your relationship with your animus was a healthy one there would be a tone of cooperation or connection. A negative animus will be, well...negative. This is not unknown to you, in fact you have had some seriously scary negative animus experiences. Now the animus, the source of psychic libido, is passive and afraid and useless. I think that in coping with the negative animus you have overcompensated and tried to claim its power rather than trying to live in harmony. The Snake is, imo, that necessary compensation coming to the light of consciousness. It would be interesting to see what your next few dreams indicate. Great dream!


[QUOTE=feranaja]Oooh I had a doozie last night.

it was quick, but potent. I dreamed I was in a local wooded area (I live in the country and walk in a forest daily) I think I was with my father but it was definitely a male figure who is uncomfortable with snakes. suddenly, a snake emerged from a tree - in canada we have no lareg snakes, the rat snake is about the largest here and this was adult boa sized - and it came towards us. I was cautious but not afraid as I keep snakes and am well used to their ways. This one was headed toward us not in a hunting posture but the man with me was terrified. AS she emerged from the tree I saw she was pregnant. It was a beautiful almost rapturous moment for me. All of it- the snake, her pregnancy, the calm I felt and the fear in the male figure (which I felt was silly and weak, although in waking life I would never feel that way). I felt infused with possibility and strength.

Im putting together a few things here - snakes are symbols of transformation and regeneration, and that makes sense to me in terms of my waking life; the pregnancy could represent a new life - I have dreamed of being pregnant many times lately and its NOT "the clock ticking" lol - and since Ive been dominated by men most of my life the power I felt in connection with this man could symbolize taking ownership of my own power - which is regenerative, sensual and mysterious, like a pregnantsnake>?

Any thoughts?
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

[QUOTE=Nuhad418]Well knowing you and your unconscious language somewhat I will give my coppers on this. For once the negative animus that is (or rather has been?) known to you is far more passive...too passive I would say, more on that later.

Snakes and trees, common themes to be linked together for sure, often represent aspects of the unconscious. The Snake especially, would be the deeper recesses of the unconscious. Here is the issue with the male figure. Lets assume for a moment that it is not your father in actuallity, in other words lets skip to amplification (its more fun and less filling!) If your relationship with your animus was a healthy one there would be a tone of cooperation or connection. A negative animus will be, well...negative. This is not unknown to you, in fact you have had some seriously scary negative animus experiences. Now the animus, the source of psychic libido, is passive and afraid and useless. I think that in coping with the negative animus you have overcompensated and tried to claim its power rather than trying to live in harmony. The Snake is, imo, that necessary compensation coming to the light of consciousness. It would be interesting to see what your next few dreams indicate. Great dream![/QUOTE]
Brilliant as usual, and pretty much what im thinking, although Im not sure the snake is compensatory? I mean, a passive animas that allows me to take control beats the hell out of serial killers and maniacs right?

And I get lost here; of course, the animus holds psychic libido, but if this dude is weak and wimpy, why am I having such a huge influx of energy in my personal life right now? I was far more crippled energywise when i was experiencing dominant and sadistic animus dreams.

I think the inherent sexism of Jung raises its head here because to be fair, Im not sure that fear of snakes makes an individual wimpy, not really. It could just show me taking power - regenerative power - and why shouldnt female figure be the protective one at specific times? Is the animus here negative or merely passive? And if the latter - SO WHAT? Strength and power can be rotated, shared...no?


fera (here we go with gender politics...pass me a pint):lol:
PS Thanks Goat

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Original post: Nuhad418

[QUOTE=feranaja]Brilliant as usual, and pretty much what im thinking, although Im not sure the snake is compensatory? I mean, a passive animas that allows me to take control beats the hell out of serial killers and maniacs right?[/quote]Again, I'm not an analyst so this is just my opinion based on my studies. Seems to me the Snake is gving way to a new compensation. A passive animus is as unwanted as a violent one. They are both negative but in different ways.

[QUOTE=feranaja]And I get lost here; of course, the animus holds psychic libido, but if this dude is weak and wimpy, why am I having such a huge influx of energy in my personal life right now? I was far more crippled energywise when i was experiencing dominant and sadistic animus dreams.[/quote]My guess would be that the ego (which is a complex like any other one) is claiming the mana for itself. This is fine for a while but it can lead to the ego identifying with it which leads to inflation. The energy is there, it can't go anywhere the question is who in you is using it right now. The Snake, in some forms, could be seen as the self so in this case the energy could be coming from the self, this make inflation even more of an issue if left unattended.

[QUOTE=feranaja]I think the inherent sexism of Jung raises its head here because to be fair, Im not sure that fear of snakes makes an individual wimpy, not really. It could just show me taking power - regenerative power - and why shouldnt female figure be the protective one at specific times? Is the animus here negative or merely passive? And if the latter - SO WHAT? Strength and power can be rotated, shared...no?[/quote]I don't think I can really comment on this. These are issues you can deal with. You said yourself that the figure walked away and you discribed it in a way that made me think that the figure, who is simply a part of you, was lacking something, something that would have enabled him to share the experience of the snake. I don't see this as gender politics, at least in this case. All those figures are you and if there is an imbalance of power then its important to find out where and why.


[QUOTE=feranaja]fera (here we go with gender politics...pass me a pint):lol: [/quote]An important work by Susan Rowland (Jung: A Feminist Revision) points out that Jung's theory of "anima" reflected his anima so when I speak of animus I'm not really thinking of Jung's orthodox interpretation (he was rather negative in his development of the theory of the animus) but rather the idea of a wholly other part of your personality. Pints are always good!

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

[QUOTE=Nuhad418]Again, I'm not an analyst so this is just my opinion based on my studies. Seems to me the Snake is gving way to a new compensation. A passive animus is as unwanted as a violent one. They are both negative but in different ways.

My guess would be that the ego (which is a complex like any other one) is claiming the mana for itself. This is fine for a while but it can lead to the ego identifying with it which leads to inflation. The energy is there, it can't go anywhere the question is who in you is using it right now. The Snake, in some forms, could be seen as the self so in this case the energy could be coming from the self, this make inflation even more of an issue if left unattended.

I don't think I can really comment on this. These are issues you can deal with. You said yourself that the figure walked away and you discribed it in a way that made me think that the figure, who is simply a part of you, was lacking something, something that would have enabled him to share the experience of the snake. I don't see this as gender politics, at least in this case. All those figures are you and if there is an imbalance of power then its important to find out where and why.


An important work by Susan Rowland (Jung: A Feminist Revision) points out that Jung's theory of "anima" reflected his anima so when I speak of animus I'm not really thinking of Jung's orthodox interpretation (he was rather negative in his development of the theory of the animus) but rather the idea of a wholly other part of your personality. Pints are always good![/QUOTE]
Wow, Nuhad, thanks for the detailed reply. I felt it was an important dream - a "big" dream - and while I have my own place for it, an understanding not entirely dissonant with yours, its always good to hear a Jungian interpretation. Keeps me grounded.

The male figure as "wholly other." hhhmmm. I'll think about that. The male figure didnt walk away, I protected him.

what interests me here is the snake as Self figure. I see it as Shadow...are you getting creative or why would an animal be a Self figure? Im not working or thinking in Jungian terms after last summer so I may be just rusty. It strikes me as archetypal allright but not Self..and yes inflation may be a compensatory process atm but thats also ok if its under conscious direction?

Sorry to pick your brains so hard but hey - thats what Geminis do.:twisted:

For me this was simply an emergence of the Lilith archetype, from the forest of the soul, ripe with possibility and intimidating to any weak male who might shadow me through life, such as my father. The weakness here is in contrast to the violence of former male figures in my dreams...the presence of Lilith psychically castrates the bastard. It resonates with your ideas but departs a little...or I could be inflating...lol.


fera

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Original post: Nuhad418

Well no interpretation is more important than your own...hence me not posting my dreams in a thread like this (no offence to anyone else of course); I am mearly offering one view. The snake can be shadow, its more about the feeling or tone of the snake. How do you view snakes? As an archetypal image (not an archetype of course) though, a snake can represent higher knowledge and wisdom, a gnosis. As the circular oroborus the snake has affinities to the self. Again nothing I am saying is textual Jung or my fancy. I think it is acting like a link between your conscious attitudes and the unconscious. Whats being born is more important in my opinion.

As for the male (sorry I must have misread it) figure, if it is the animus then the previous negative animus experience the ego needed to be protected and now the ego is placing itself in the position of protecting the animus. Dialogue and not protection or violence is the goal...again IMVHO.


[QUOTE=feranaja]Wow, Nuhad, thanks for the detailed reply. I felt it was an important dream - a "big" dream - and while I have my own place for it, an understanding not entirely dissonant with yours, its always good to hear a Jungian interpretation. Keeps me grounded.

The male figure as "wholly other." hhhmmm. I'll think about that. The male figure didnt walk away, I protected him.

what interests me here is the snake as Self figure. I see it as Shadow...are you getting creative or why would an animal be a Self figure? Im not working or thinking in Jungian terms after last summer so I may be just rusty. It strikes me as archetypal allright but not Self..and yes inflation may be a compensatory process atm but thats also ok if its under conscious direction?

Sorry to pick your brains so hard but hey - thats what Geminis do.:twisted:

For me this was simply an emergence of the Lilith archetype, from the forest of the soul, ripe with possibility and intimidating to any weak male who might shadow me through life, such as my father. The weakness here is in contrast to the violence of former male figures in my dreams...the presence of Lilith psychically castrates the bastard. It resonates with your ideas but departs a little...or I could be inflating...lol.


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Original post: Rin Daemoko

Ever since I've been doing vipassana meditation before bed, I've been having very vivid dreams which are getting easier and easier to remember.

Last night I dreamt that my brothers and my mom had a really big fight. The fight was so intense that my mom ended up going crazy and stabbing one of my brothers before killing herself. My brother died shortly after. My other brother just left the house without saying anything.

I was left alone in the house with my dead brother and mother, and I was crying so hard. I felt the deep, horrible, sickening pain of loss. The next morning, a friend was supposed to pick me up, when she arrived, she found me sobbing uncontrollably, and she couldn't figure out what had happened. She eventually found my brother and mom and called the police.

When I woke up, I was soaked in my own tears.

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Original post: Sud Ram

Kazahel: You seem to have the answer to your own question. Confirmation is on your skin, dreams are real.

Feranaja: The way I see dreams is not Jungian so there is no written reference to go with. The forest is the regerative life force energy with which you normally do have a physical connection.

The snake would be the Kundalini, the sexual energy that you are working on. In this sense, the male that is accompanying you is showing the inner imbalance that is becomming more aware of it's own weakness rather than trying to compensate/hide it through dominating/"deviant" behaviours. Your position of protection is showing maturity and the possibility for a new sexuality/energy to be born, this is why the snake is pregnant.

So yes, roles are changing, you're acknowledging your weaknesses and this is making you much stronger.

Rin Daemoko: I'll make it short because I belive it's a release more than a revealing dream. Emotional family patterns are dying within you. By this I mean that you are becoming aware of your emotional construct, most probably thanks to meditation, and this is manifested on the dream plane and gradually being released. Keep crying It's the best thing to do in this case.

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Original post: Rin Daemoko

[QUOTE=Sud Ram]Rin Daemoko: I'll make it short because I belive it's a release more than a revealing dream. Emotional family patterns are dying within you. By this I mean that you are becoming aware of your emotional construct, most probably thanks to meditation, and this is manifested on the dream plane and gradually being released. Keep crying It's the best thing to do in this case.[/QUOTE]
Now that you mention it, my current family is falling apart, and as a result, those patterns are dying. So, you are absolutely correct. Thank you for your invaluable insight, Sud Ram. I am deeply appreciative that you took the time to respond to my post

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Original post: Coils&Claws

There are three distinct dreams I've had that make me feel that they are important. But only one has occured twice. The one that occured twice was this:
I'm walking through a town with continual rain. The town is unfamiliar and the entire dream are in deep blues or grey-blues. I'm walking with a friend of mine through this town and I keep thinking 'I have to get home'. Suddenly I look over at one of the houses and hear a voice say its raining, you should stop walking until the rains stops. I got the impression that this was my grandmother. So, I think that is wise advice so my friend and I try to find a place to rest for a while. As we past a highway bridge I see movement in the distance, on a large hill. I stop to look at it and a black wolf with yellow eyes appears two feet away from me. I urge my friend on till we find a large pipe in which to escape the rain. I go in first, then my friend. Suddenly I see another black wolf and I got the impression that they wanted us to continue traveling.

That's where that one stopped. The other two I may tell at a later time.
I would also like to note that this dream occured while I was first starting to read about wicca and other such things.
I would love to know your opinion.

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

[QUOTE=Sud Ram]Feranaja: The way I see dreams is not Jungian so there is no written reference to go with. The forest is the regerative life force energy with which you normally do have a physical connection.

The snake would be the Kundalini, the sexual energy that you are working on. In this sense, the male that is accompanying you is showing the inner imbalance that is becomming more aware of it's own weakness rather than trying to compensate/hide it through dominating/"deviant" behaviours. Your position of protection is showing maturity and the possibility for a new sexuality/energy to be born, this is why the snake is pregnant.

So yes, roles are changing, you're acknowledging your weaknesses and this is making you much stronger.

[/QUOTE]Thank you Sud Ram for taking the time to comment on this. I've studied Jung a long time but always like to look at a variety of interpretations, especially for one of those "big" dreams. As with a Tarot spread, meaning cans tart to reveal itself over time too, if you record what youve experienced and reflect back on it. In my journals,I re-read dreams I had many years ago and think, wow, that was so good; yet I didnt consciously even recall having it. I suspect this is one such dream - transformative, if I follow the path it points to.

The only aspect of your commentary (and Nuhads, which was similar in many ways) that I question is the idea that the male figure int eh dream represents only an inner imbalance or weakness. Maybe this is a bit literal but I see the possibility of the male figure as external too - the men in my life, who have always been weak - and always required me to protect their ego and take care of THEIR needs even at the expense of my own - in the dream I am annoyed whereas in real life I would have been supportive, understanding - I suppose my own weakness then, has been a sort of Chesed excess where I take care of individuals who will at other times harm me (as in my long and terrifying series of serial killer dreams which Nuhad referred to) and in real life, will require my nurturing part of the time and sap my life force with their control/demands at others.

There is indeed an awakening in my life at present and not everyone thinks its a good thing - I may be growing an ego, lol and a feranaja with boundaries is a scary tohught to those who know me in real life- but the significant part here is the concept of potential, of the unborn. whatever I desire to make of this change is what it will be. There is definitely a truckload of kundalini happening but the way in which my dream-self deals with it suggests to me that for once, I am actually directing the show insetad of simply running around frantically trying to patch everyone else's lives together.
Thanks again...
fera

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Original post: Sud Ram

I agree with you, the weakness is not only the man's, in the dream it is an aspect of yourself, and your reaction IN the dream is what maybe really lied beneath the attitude you used to take of being supportive in the sense that you repressed that and felt you had to be compassionate because that's what is "good". Now you don't seem to care what's good or not, rather you are caring for your own truth and expression of your power, be it condescendent or not, it doesn't really matter, you are going deep into yourself.

weakness and strength are one and the same, but you need to see both sides. I believe the dream is showing you this and the potential that this knowledge brings.

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

[QUOTE=Sud Ram] Now you don't seem to care what's good or not, rather you are caring for your own truth and expression of your power, be it condescendent or not, it doesn't really matter, you are going deep into yourself.

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Yes. Thank you for seeing that and reinforcing it. In psychological terms this is "inflation" but in real life, its called liberation(not a 'dig' there Nuhad, just considering all angles as usual). I think I'm sufficiently self aware to guard against a narcissistic delf-contraction but atm - the movement beyond enslavement is what really matters to me.

I'll let you know when the snake gives birth ...;-)
fera

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Original post: Sud Ram

Coils&Claws: your dream is showing you that you are looking for different ways of expressing yourself. as you walk through the grey blue town (grey blue would relate to disfunctional expression or communication and the town to your social conditioning) you hear your grandmother. This is a call from past attachments to hold you back.

The wolf appears in your dream to give you courage and lead you into the unknown pipes of discovery.

I have a question though, are you attracted to the friend that is with you in the dream?

Peace

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Original post: Coils&Claws

At one point I thought I was attracted to her...but...all I wanted to do was protect her. To help and protect her. She's my best friend and very much like my sister. I love her unconditionally

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Original post: Malfurion

This dream was a while ago:
I was somehow stranded with a group of people, something like a plane crashed or something happend. Then we all started walking for a while, and two aliens came along. They offerd to help show the way, everyone was mumruring about it for a while. They all decided to stay behind while i went off with the aliens. I was just thinking about things and they were talking in some other language which i didnt understand. We came to a place with two paths going in different directions, one to the right and one to the left. Then the dream fades away and i wake up and thought left.

Another dream was when i was in a catholic/christian school. at first i started to behave like a good student, doing all the work going to all the classes. Then i started rebbelling, tearing pages out of the book in the class(bible i think) and started skipping classes and eventually running away.

I'm just not too sure on what they ment, just want some input.

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Original post: Nuhad418

[QUOTE=feranaja]Yes. Thank you for seeing that and reinforcing it. In psychological terms this is "inflation" but in real life, its called liberation(not a 'dig' there Nuhad, just considering all angles as usual). I think I'm sufficiently self aware to guard against a narcissistic delf-contraction but atm - the movement beyond enslavement is what really matters to me.

I'll let you know when the snake gives birth ...;-)
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I don't take that as a dig. You are right...inflation is liberation; a liberation from one's current psychological perspective. Inflation without an eventual grounding is unhealthy. Robert Moore, Jungian analystm, said in one of his (self published) books that he likes to work with inflated people over deflated or depressed ones because at least they have a lust for life! And as always my interpretation (which according to sud is based on writing wtf!?) is not strictly Jungian but a Jungian/Post-Jungian colouring of my understanding of symbols/metaphor and my understanding of...at least... your past.

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

yes well I certainly have lust for life atm, inflated or otherwise. And its good. Here's to individuation...I think.

Last night I dreamed I saved four or five people, mostly male and all younger, from a marauding lioness.

Wimpy men of the world, have no fear, your Inflated feranaja doll is here and you will be saved.
Life is too weird, huh...
maaaaa, hi Goat.
fera

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Original post: Sud Ram

Nuhad, I didn't say your interpretation was based on writing, I just said mine wasn't nor does it have written references that I know of. Sorry for the confusion.

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Original post: Gavriel

Hi all. I've had another dream.

It was about this girl wearing all black. She seemed friendly, but looked cold, shy and distant. She was actually quite cute and appealing to me. Does anyone know what this female could stand for?

She didn't say anything at all.

Thanks,
John Cortay.

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Original post: kazbaz

Hi I have just read this entire thread and wonder if someone could help me with a dream I have had off and on for as long as I can remember. When I was a child I would try not to go to sleep because of the dream.

I would see people, I couldnt name them I never knew them, the thing they always had in common was either their heads would be huge and bodies minute or visa versa. I dreamed like this again around a year ago.

Any ideas??

Thank you in advance

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Original post: Kazahel

Sorry Im not the best and working out others dreams. Its tricky.

I had another dream that I always seem to have again last night. I dreamt that the boat I was on was filling up with the icey waters of the dark ocean. Its always night time and this time we we're trying to start the pump inorder to pump out the water that was rushing in. It wasnt starting and we knew we we're dead because we we're in the antarctic in the middle of nowhere and the water was going to freeze us. Its a horrible dream because I really really hate the ice cold water. Its kinda one of the only nightmares I cant escape from.

I dont know why I always dream of a sinking boat. Any ideas?

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Original post: darkshadow

[QUOTE=Kazahel]Sorry Im not the best and working out others dreams. Its tricky.

I had another dream that I always seem to have again last night. I dreamt that the boat I was on was filling up with the icey waters of the dark ocean. Its always night time and this time we we're trying to start the pump inorder to pump out the water that was rushing in. It wasnt starting and we knew we we're dead because we we're in the antarctic in the middle of nowhere and the water was going to freeze us. Its a horrible dream because I really really hate the ice cold water. Its kinda one of the only nightmares I cant escape from.

I dont know why I always dream of a sinking boat. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
:twisted: I have an idea of what your dream is. It sounds like a past life. I'm thinking the Titanic. You were probably a crew member on the Titanic in a past life. :twisted:

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Original post: Kazahel

[QUOTE=darkshadow] :twisted: I have an idea of what your dream is. It sounds like a past life. I'm thinking the Titanic. You were probably a crew member on the Titanic in a past life. :twisted:

[/QUOTE] No but its in the same area where it went down on the movie. lol

This one was a smaller boat I think but still big. Like an ice breaker or something. To be honest I wasnt looking around to see what kinda boat it was...I was trying to get the stupid red pump started so I wasnt going to bloody drown! hehehe The water was freezing my feet and I knew we we're dead anyway cause of the speed inwhich we we're sinking. Why is it that every damn boat I get on in a dream sinks!? I honestly dont think I've ever had a boat dream where it hasnt. Its funny I just got more of a flashback of it then and I do remember looking over the edge of the boat and seeing the ice going past before I was at the pump. Even thinking of this dream right now makes me cringe in a way that scares me. Its like that feeling when your a kid and you think theres something under your bed and you daringly place one foot under first to see what bites. Its horrible. Even if I was fully lucid I sure wouldnt want to hit the water at night.