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Ever seen the movie "Hot Chick"??? Check it out, and make a spell for temporarilly body-exchangement...
Ever seen the movie "Hot Chick"??? Check it out, and make a spell for temporarilly body-exchangement
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[QUOTE=Mars]for males only. gain 100lbs. your already half-way there since you've grown breast. the rest of this gender changing magick will involve your ritualistic dagger. have fun
ps- i'm only joking so please don't try this. though of you still want to, go right on ahead.[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'll try it*lookingdumb*...............
[QUOTE=Mars]for males only. gain 100lbs. your already half-way there since you've grown breast. the rest of this gender changing magick will involve your ritualistic dagger. have fun
ps- i'm only joking so please don't try this. though of you still want to, go right on ahead.[/QUOTE]
Okay, I'll try it*lookingdumb*...............
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[QUOTE=MaeveQ]I am quite amused when people so sure of themselves state their ideas as if they are facts and say things like 'can't', 'is not possible'. All I can say is you are missing out on a lot.[/QUOTE]
Yeah!!! Think about it... Most of us here, believe in MAGIC! Say that to a non-magic person, and he'll either laugh or run... And in 90% of the cases think U're nuts...... Simply because "The Science" says so!!!!! What a world:D
[QUOTE=MaeveQ]I am quite amused when people so sure of themselves state their ideas as if they are facts and say things like 'can't', 'is not possible'. All I can say is you are missing out on a lot.[/QUOTE]
Yeah!!! Think about it... Most of us here, believe in MAGIC! Say that to a non-magic person, and he'll either laugh or run... And in 90% of the cases think U're nuts...... Simply because "The Science" says so!!!!! What a world:D
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Original post: primaelgen
Hi,
I have developed an experimental technique, but I am unsure of the forum rules concerning posting something like that up. I know asking for one is a social-no-no. I am willing to share, as long as I make it clear that this can be dangerous.
I'll look up the FAQ -- but, would anyone be interested?
PrimaelGen
Hi,
I have developed an experimental technique, but I am unsure of the forum rules concerning posting something like that up. I know asking for one is a social-no-no. I am willing to share, as long as I make it clear that this can be dangerous.
I'll look up the FAQ -- but, would anyone be interested?
PrimaelGen
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Original post: Sub Rosa
I can answer your question.
Understanding gender differences is important to magic.
During sex between a man and a woman the two organs are in fact one organ.
And this one organ is god, being both and neither, and a third thing, a divine host.
When you are inside of a woman, and you understand the One Organ, and she is on top, she can mentally become the penis and you the vagina.
It does take some practice and focus.
This is the whole intention of Sex Magick Sub Rosa.
As the two unite, they become one another and switch back and forth.
No two centers of consciousness ever occupy the same spacetime position, except during intercourse.
Beneath the roses, the roots in the soil.
Within each rose, both pistle and stamen, requiring a third host, the bee-spirit.
I can answer your question.
Understanding gender differences is important to magic.
During sex between a man and a woman the two organs are in fact one organ.
And this one organ is god, being both and neither, and a third thing, a divine host.
When you are inside of a woman, and you understand the One Organ, and she is on top, she can mentally become the penis and you the vagina.
It does take some practice and focus.
This is the whole intention of Sex Magick Sub Rosa.
As the two unite, they become one another and switch back and forth.
No two centers of consciousness ever occupy the same spacetime position, except during intercourse.
Beneath the roses, the roots in the soil.
Within each rose, both pistle and stamen, requiring a third host, the bee-spirit.
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Original post: primaelgen
[QUOTE=Sub Rosa]I can answer your question.
Understanding gender differences is important to magic.
During sex between a man and a woman the two organs are in fact one organ.
And this one organ is god, being both and neither, and a third thing, a divine host.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Yoga meaning 'union'. The Buddhists have a lotus growing out of the mud (and spreading out the petals at the crown). It's as if by stepping between two human forms ... the male and the female ... you step between worlds. All pretty cool stuff.
PrimaelGen
[QUOTE=Sub Rosa]I can answer your question.
Understanding gender differences is important to magic.
During sex between a man and a woman the two organs are in fact one organ.
And this one organ is god, being both and neither, and a third thing, a divine host.
[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Yoga meaning 'union'. The Buddhists have a lotus growing out of the mud (and spreading out the petals at the crown). It's as if by stepping between two human forms ... the male and the female ... you step between worlds. All pretty cool stuff.
PrimaelGen
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Original post: primaelgen
I'm going to go ahead and post this. This does get explicit, though I tried to be as clinical as I can. If the moderators have a problem with this, I apologize ahead of time (I wouldn't be offended if the post gets taken out of circulation). I *am* very interested in people's comments and feedback, though -- specifically in the hows, not the whys or why nots. Depending on how well received, I'll develop and post up more in the future.
The original, with bolds, italics, etc. is located at http://geocities.com/primaelgen/pump.htm
PrimaelGen: Pump Method
Prereq: Ability to go into trance, ability to feel energy
Keywords:qigong, jing, magick, pump, gender change, shrinkage
Version: 2004-12-26 (Merry Xmas)
Introduction
In the Taoist and internal alchemy traditions, there are many method of converting the sexual essence (JING) into a refined energy that the adept can then circulate into her body, to revitalize the organ, and give off that radiant "glow". A human being spends a large portion of her "energy budget" in reproduction. This is the power of life, folks.
There are many TGs that are on the fence about total transformation. Some have realized that by castrating themselves, they gain greater control of their sexuality. These people often feel a sense of calm, rather than the violent roid-rage. In that sense, it is more "feminine". This is why the ancient internal alchemists have traditionally trained in taking control over their sexuality, so as to live harmonious... and a better, more fulfilling life. When was the last time you had a great time?
These techniques have been pulled from a variety of sources, one of the better known is Mantak Chia. This particular technique is intended to energetically castrate, perhaps even feminize the adept's testes. Shrinkage can occur. This represents a different view on the sparse techniques available on the net. Namely, we're going to use this technique to get healthier, and that also includes bringing the body congruent with your spirit, now doesn't it? To that end, this is not intended to make you unhealthy. Some sources have suggested that it is more difficult to change and transform your body if your body has more vital energy. That's a fallacy. It is often easier to change your body if your body is energetic and strong.
Jing, the Sexual Essence
In the terminology of the Chinese internal alchemy, "jing" is the sexual essence, from which is refined "chi" or energy. Chi is further refined into "shen", or transcendent spirit. This is a very high-level overview, and PrimaelGen is aware of the lack of detail. There's many nuances and raging debates across the internet if you care to research more in depth.
Suffice to say, the adept can feel her jing in her testes as a cold, sometimes "sticky" energy. Let the testes hang loose and you should be able to feel the temperature difference. Don't shy away because you are uncomfortable with your body (first is acceptance, then comes change). Move your eyes if you have to, but the point is to feel this relative cold.
Now, imagine the coldness moving. You might have to squeeze the PC muscle (the muscle you use to cut a stream of urine while you're in the middle of pissing) to facilitate this. PrimaelGen highly recommends trying this, even if you feel you are adept at moving energy with visual (eyes, third-eye) alone. Using this tactile method will greatly enhance your ability to move energy, and it is vital and basic to the Pump Method.
Work on squeezing the muscle. You can (and probably should) imagine those muscles as your vagina squeezing and pulling energy in ... from the testes and penis. If you feel a rush of energy, relax, and let it sink into your belly. That's usually a good place to store it, without getting heart attacks or going crazy. (You think I'm crazy? Go research it! These are called dantien, or dantian).
This alone will allow you to manage your sexuality and sexual response. If you feel your penis as grossly there during the mornings when you have an erection, you can use this pump method to rapidly pump the energy that is perking up, and inward. Just like an energy vagina, one that sucks it in. It helps if you imagine (with your eyes) the penis as an oversized clitoris, while you feel the energy of your over-sized clitoris. If you don't know what one looks like, PrimaelGen recommends you looking it up. You should be able to take control over your erection fairly quickly (matter of days, depending on your ability to concentrate and trance).
Now, some adepts will want to go even beyond that. Once pumped ... particularly during erections ... the energy will feel very expansive, sometimes very hot. And harsh. And masculine. This next section deals with mixing in more yin or feminine energy in a way to start the feminization process.
Feminizing the Testes
If you've done your homework, you would know that certain people have "testicular feminization" or "androgyn insensitivity syndrome". Among there, you should notice an enzyme called aromatase. This enzyme converts the testosterone in the testes into female hormones. It is the relative balance of testosterone-to-estrogen that tells the cells within your body to go more masculine, or more feminine. Energetically speaking, you can train your senses to perceive this difference, and cultivate them.
Steroid-using and non-steroid-using body builders know, one of the dangers of using steroids is the feminization. This causes gynecomastia, a condition which creates as much anxiety as your body creates in you. Both are about body images, no?
Apparently, there is a ritual within certain Native American traditions whereby a virile man would be aroused and made to ejaculate many, many times, then ride a horse all day. This is the same as for intensely-dedicated body builders. Building muscle and ejaculating creates a condition ... depending on how you come off of the testosterone cycle ... where estrogen begins to get pumped out like mad. The estrogen in turn inhibits the production of testostrone, creating a cycle whereby the body becomes more and more feminine. It apparently worked for these gender-changing shamans.
Hard physical exercise might be something you might consider along with the Pump. One possible side-effect is the stress on the heart. There are a few studies that show that men's heart are healthier with a certain amount of testosterone. PrimaelGen is not a doctor, so you'll have to ask one about it. Besides, we're here about magickal methods to do this.
One of the main techniques an internal alchemists (Alchemy, after all, is the Sacred Science of Change, the Union of Opposites. Surprised?) have is the fusion of the yin or feminine with the yang or masculine. This generally creates tremendous power for change, often skewing towards the androgynous.
There are two easily-found sources of the yin energy. Once found, you direct them to mix with the jing in the testes, to refine them in place. "Refinement" can mean many things. Often, the jing gets sticker, gets lighter, gets softer. Sounds familiar? So, let's get started on finding these sources.
From the Heart
The heart center is about two finger widths above the place where the ribs and breast bone joing together at your mid section. To find this, use your eyes (squeeze them slightly if you have to) to feel for a place that is cool and smooth. Relax and breath deeply into your belly. If you don't know how, there are many sources for this -- yoga pranayama, most forms of qigong, and various Western singing methods suffices.
Where you are looking is your point of attention. You can expand this "attention" and shape it into a sphere. Give it a try. Now, relax your attention while keeping it there... and you should feel this cool, yin, heart energy expand.
Let this flow down the front. The key is to lead this energy. You cannot pump it like you can pump the jing. It helps if you allow yourself to feel more feminine, to surrender, to gentle, to soften. Let it surrender to your masculine, aggressive feelings... like water yielding to earth. You will feel these masculine parts of you soften and transform. Guide this heart yin down to about your pubic bone, and let it seep into your testes and the jing.
Once the heart yin hits the jing, don't be surprised if this starts creating enourmous heat or vibrations. This is a meeting of opposites, after all. Keep allowing this flow to happen until you are at a comfortable masculine-to-feminine feeling. After all, not everyone wants to be uber-feminine.
Once you feel harmonious and congruent, start Pumping this newly refined jing, suck it up with your vagina and your clitoris. Again, visualize this refined jing instructing the cells of your body to turn more feminine. It should feel more feminine. This might be enough to kickstart that whole estrogen cycle PrimaelGen talked about earlier. Let it spread throughout your body, then store any access in your belly.
From the Crown and Third Eye
The Crown is located at the hollow at the top of your skull, and the front part of the third eye is located between your eyes, above them. You can pump energy into your crown from your spine by moving the jaw muscles. It will pull the scalp and tighten the spaces between the skull plates. You can activate the front part of your third eye by gently squeezing between your eyes, as if to furrow your brows. Eventually, you should be able to make little movements to move a lot of energy.
One source will be easier than the other. If you pull from the Crown, let it slide towards the front where it mixes with the third eye opening. Here, you will visualize your Female Body, in front of you. You might feel and see energy leaving you to feed this image in front of you. Put in all the virtues of being female, and what you want to look like. When you are done, visualize your Female Body turning into white mist, which you breath in through your third eye, and let it slide down your front, mixes with your Heart Yin energy, and then down into your testes. The two energy should feel very different. Allow them to mix. Feel and see your testes becoming feminine. Feel your oversized clitoris shrinking into a beautiful clitoris. Feel your vagina reforming to allow a vaginal dimple, and then an opening.
Once the two energies have thoroughly combined and feels well-mixed, pump this energy with your energy-vagina up your tailbone and up your spine. Remember that pump at the crown PrimaelGen was talking about? Use that to mix in with the Crown energy, and let it flow to the third-eye again.
You will eventually be able to connect this cycle. It will create an ever-feminine feeling, a cycle that feeds on itself and spread across your body. It is important that you maintain in a relaxed way! your image of your Female Body.
I'm going to go ahead and post this. This does get explicit, though I tried to be as clinical as I can. If the moderators have a problem with this, I apologize ahead of time (I wouldn't be offended if the post gets taken out of circulation). I *am* very interested in people's comments and feedback, though -- specifically in the hows, not the whys or why nots. Depending on how well received, I'll develop and post up more in the future.
The original, with bolds, italics, etc. is located at http://geocities.com/primaelgen/pump.htm
PrimaelGen: Pump Method
Prereq: Ability to go into trance, ability to feel energy
Keywords:qigong, jing, magick, pump, gender change, shrinkage
Version: 2004-12-26 (Merry Xmas)
Introduction
In the Taoist and internal alchemy traditions, there are many method of converting the sexual essence (JING) into a refined energy that the adept can then circulate into her body, to revitalize the organ, and give off that radiant "glow". A human being spends a large portion of her "energy budget" in reproduction. This is the power of life, folks.
There are many TGs that are on the fence about total transformation. Some have realized that by castrating themselves, they gain greater control of their sexuality. These people often feel a sense of calm, rather than the violent roid-rage. In that sense, it is more "feminine". This is why the ancient internal alchemists have traditionally trained in taking control over their sexuality, so as to live harmonious... and a better, more fulfilling life. When was the last time you had a great time?
These techniques have been pulled from a variety of sources, one of the better known is Mantak Chia. This particular technique is intended to energetically castrate, perhaps even feminize the adept's testes. Shrinkage can occur. This represents a different view on the sparse techniques available on the net. Namely, we're going to use this technique to get healthier, and that also includes bringing the body congruent with your spirit, now doesn't it? To that end, this is not intended to make you unhealthy. Some sources have suggested that it is more difficult to change and transform your body if your body has more vital energy. That's a fallacy. It is often easier to change your body if your body is energetic and strong.
Jing, the Sexual Essence
In the terminology of the Chinese internal alchemy, "jing" is the sexual essence, from which is refined "chi" or energy. Chi is further refined into "shen", or transcendent spirit. This is a very high-level overview, and PrimaelGen is aware of the lack of detail. There's many nuances and raging debates across the internet if you care to research more in depth.
Suffice to say, the adept can feel her jing in her testes as a cold, sometimes "sticky" energy. Let the testes hang loose and you should be able to feel the temperature difference. Don't shy away because you are uncomfortable with your body (first is acceptance, then comes change). Move your eyes if you have to, but the point is to feel this relative cold.
Now, imagine the coldness moving. You might have to squeeze the PC muscle (the muscle you use to cut a stream of urine while you're in the middle of pissing) to facilitate this. PrimaelGen highly recommends trying this, even if you feel you are adept at moving energy with visual (eyes, third-eye) alone. Using this tactile method will greatly enhance your ability to move energy, and it is vital and basic to the Pump Method.
Work on squeezing the muscle. You can (and probably should) imagine those muscles as your vagina squeezing and pulling energy in ... from the testes and penis. If you feel a rush of energy, relax, and let it sink into your belly. That's usually a good place to store it, without getting heart attacks or going crazy. (You think I'm crazy? Go research it! These are called dantien, or dantian).
This alone will allow you to manage your sexuality and sexual response. If you feel your penis as grossly there during the mornings when you have an erection, you can use this pump method to rapidly pump the energy that is perking up, and inward. Just like an energy vagina, one that sucks it in. It helps if you imagine (with your eyes) the penis as an oversized clitoris, while you feel the energy of your over-sized clitoris. If you don't know what one looks like, PrimaelGen recommends you looking it up. You should be able to take control over your erection fairly quickly (matter of days, depending on your ability to concentrate and trance).
Now, some adepts will want to go even beyond that. Once pumped ... particularly during erections ... the energy will feel very expansive, sometimes very hot. And harsh. And masculine. This next section deals with mixing in more yin or feminine energy in a way to start the feminization process.
Feminizing the Testes
If you've done your homework, you would know that certain people have "testicular feminization" or "androgyn insensitivity syndrome". Among there, you should notice an enzyme called aromatase. This enzyme converts the testosterone in the testes into female hormones. It is the relative balance of testosterone-to-estrogen that tells the cells within your body to go more masculine, or more feminine. Energetically speaking, you can train your senses to perceive this difference, and cultivate them.
Steroid-using and non-steroid-using body builders know, one of the dangers of using steroids is the feminization. This causes gynecomastia, a condition which creates as much anxiety as your body creates in you. Both are about body images, no?
Apparently, there is a ritual within certain Native American traditions whereby a virile man would be aroused and made to ejaculate many, many times, then ride a horse all day. This is the same as for intensely-dedicated body builders. Building muscle and ejaculating creates a condition ... depending on how you come off of the testosterone cycle ... where estrogen begins to get pumped out like mad. The estrogen in turn inhibits the production of testostrone, creating a cycle whereby the body becomes more and more feminine. It apparently worked for these gender-changing shamans.
Hard physical exercise might be something you might consider along with the Pump. One possible side-effect is the stress on the heart. There are a few studies that show that men's heart are healthier with a certain amount of testosterone. PrimaelGen is not a doctor, so you'll have to ask one about it. Besides, we're here about magickal methods to do this.
One of the main techniques an internal alchemists (Alchemy, after all, is the Sacred Science of Change, the Union of Opposites. Surprised?) have is the fusion of the yin or feminine with the yang or masculine. This generally creates tremendous power for change, often skewing towards the androgynous.
There are two easily-found sources of the yin energy. Once found, you direct them to mix with the jing in the testes, to refine them in place. "Refinement" can mean many things. Often, the jing gets sticker, gets lighter, gets softer. Sounds familiar? So, let's get started on finding these sources.
From the Heart
The heart center is about two finger widths above the place where the ribs and breast bone joing together at your mid section. To find this, use your eyes (squeeze them slightly if you have to) to feel for a place that is cool and smooth. Relax and breath deeply into your belly. If you don't know how, there are many sources for this -- yoga pranayama, most forms of qigong, and various Western singing methods suffices.
Where you are looking is your point of attention. You can expand this "attention" and shape it into a sphere. Give it a try. Now, relax your attention while keeping it there... and you should feel this cool, yin, heart energy expand.
Let this flow down the front. The key is to lead this energy. You cannot pump it like you can pump the jing. It helps if you allow yourself to feel more feminine, to surrender, to gentle, to soften. Let it surrender to your masculine, aggressive feelings... like water yielding to earth. You will feel these masculine parts of you soften and transform. Guide this heart yin down to about your pubic bone, and let it seep into your testes and the jing.
Once the heart yin hits the jing, don't be surprised if this starts creating enourmous heat or vibrations. This is a meeting of opposites, after all. Keep allowing this flow to happen until you are at a comfortable masculine-to-feminine feeling. After all, not everyone wants to be uber-feminine.
Once you feel harmonious and congruent, start Pumping this newly refined jing, suck it up with your vagina and your clitoris. Again, visualize this refined jing instructing the cells of your body to turn more feminine. It should feel more feminine. This might be enough to kickstart that whole estrogen cycle PrimaelGen talked about earlier. Let it spread throughout your body, then store any access in your belly.
From the Crown and Third Eye
The Crown is located at the hollow at the top of your skull, and the front part of the third eye is located between your eyes, above them. You can pump energy into your crown from your spine by moving the jaw muscles. It will pull the scalp and tighten the spaces between the skull plates. You can activate the front part of your third eye by gently squeezing between your eyes, as if to furrow your brows. Eventually, you should be able to make little movements to move a lot of energy.
One source will be easier than the other. If you pull from the Crown, let it slide towards the front where it mixes with the third eye opening. Here, you will visualize your Female Body, in front of you. You might feel and see energy leaving you to feed this image in front of you. Put in all the virtues of being female, and what you want to look like. When you are done, visualize your Female Body turning into white mist, which you breath in through your third eye, and let it slide down your front, mixes with your Heart Yin energy, and then down into your testes. The two energy should feel very different. Allow them to mix. Feel and see your testes becoming feminine. Feel your oversized clitoris shrinking into a beautiful clitoris. Feel your vagina reforming to allow a vaginal dimple, and then an opening.
Once the two energies have thoroughly combined and feels well-mixed, pump this energy with your energy-vagina up your tailbone and up your spine. Remember that pump at the crown PrimaelGen was talking about? Use that to mix in with the Crown energy, and let it flow to the third-eye again.
You will eventually be able to connect this cycle. It will create an ever-feminine feeling, a cycle that feeds on itself and spread across your body. It is important that you maintain in a relaxed way! your image of your Female Body.
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[QUOTE=palindroem]I'm there with ya MaeveQ!
Can you astrally project? Do you have a friend that can too?
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If she (your friend) volunteers it, you can "posesse" each other . . . but its bit dangerous.
And not necassarily Choas . . . LHP perhaps . . .
[/QUOTE]Dangerous? How? Like losing your "silver-chord"? If so, wouldn't you be just a soul or spirit then? And have no real connection to you body("the silver-chord")? I have actually made a spell for body-changing, but as I had a leak of belief(then), there was nothing to do...
[QUOTE=palindroem]I'm there with ya MaeveQ!
Can you astrally project? Do you have a friend that can too?
.
.
.
If she (your friend) volunteers it, you can "posesse" each other . . . but its bit dangerous.
And not necassarily Choas . . . LHP perhaps . . .
[/QUOTE]Dangerous? How? Like losing your "silver-chord"? If so, wouldn't you be just a soul or spirit then? And have no real connection to you body("the silver-chord")? I have actually made a spell for body-changing, but as I had a leak of belief(then), there was nothing to do...-
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[QUOTE=adrian nor]Dangerous? How? Like losing your "silver-chord"? If so, wouldn't you be just a soul or spirit then? And have no real connection to you body("the silver-chord")? I have actually made a spell for body-changing, but as I had a leak of belief, there was nothing to do...[/QUOTE]
Quick things about silver chord:
(1) Robert Bruce thinks you don't need one. He has projected without one. I've done this before. Leaving bread crumbs, like Hansel and Graetel isn't exactly a smart thing.
(2) Robert Monroe perceives a silver chord as a projection of light. I have heard this theory from another lecturer elsehwere. In this theory, when someone "blocks" or "cuts" the chord, the chord bends and bounces and you go somewhere else.
(3) The Holographic Universe theory is that your conscious is holographic. You are *always* connected back to your body because, well, your cells are holographic. If someone steals the soul from your body, your body can create a new one.
PrimaelGen
[QUOTE=adrian nor]Dangerous? How? Like losing your "silver-chord"? If so, wouldn't you be just a soul or spirit then? And have no real connection to you body("the silver-chord")? I have actually made a spell for body-changing, but as I had a leak of belief, there was nothing to do...[/QUOTE]
Quick things about silver chord:
(1) Robert Bruce thinks you don't need one. He has projected without one. I've done this before. Leaving bread crumbs, like Hansel and Graetel isn't exactly a smart thing.
(2) Robert Monroe perceives a silver chord as a projection of light. I have heard this theory from another lecturer elsehwere. In this theory, when someone "blocks" or "cuts" the chord, the chord bends and bounces and you go somewhere else.
(3) The Holographic Universe theory is that your conscious is holographic. You are *always* connected back to your body because, well, your cells are holographic. If someone steals the soul from your body, your body can create a new one.
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[QUOTE=primaelgen]Quick things about silver chord:
If someone steals the soul from your body, your body can create a new one.
PrimaelGen[/QUOTE]
Eww... Freaky!
[QUOTE=primaelgen]Quick things about silver chord:
If someone steals the soul from your body, your body can create a new one.
PrimaelGen[/QUOTE]
Eww... Freaky!
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[QUOTE=HankyDoodle]I was wondering how to temporarly change my gender???NO sarcasim plz[/QUOTE]Would it not be easier to cross dress? If you want a temporary change seems to be that with the right clothes, hairstyle and outward adjustments you can very much appear the other geneder.
But back to your question, since people (from my readings) have been able to change from human to animal form I would think it is possible to change from you to someone else. I have always believed there is truth in all legends. But I got a feeling that level of magick is beyond the step 1,2,3 replies you can get on a message board. But requires intense magickal training over many years. I'm not sure anybody could put in a single post something as complex as that.
[QUOTE=HankyDoodle]I was wondering how to temporarly change my gender???NO sarcasim plz[/QUOTE]Would it not be easier to cross dress? If you want a temporary change seems to be that with the right clothes, hairstyle and outward adjustments you can very much appear the other geneder.
But back to your question, since people (from my readings) have been able to change from human to animal form I would think it is possible to change from you to someone else. I have always believed there is truth in all legends. But I got a feeling that level of magick is beyond the step 1,2,3 replies you can get on a message board. But requires intense magickal training over many years. I'm not sure anybody could put in a single post something as complex as that.
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Original post: Noxlux
[QUOTE=MaeveQ]I am quite amused when people so sure of themselves state their ideas as if they are facts and say things like 'can't', 'is not possible'. All I can say is you are missing out on a lot.[/QUOTE]
I agree without hesitance with your attitude. Can you give some examples of what they are missing out on?
Nox
[QUOTE=MaeveQ]I am quite amused when people so sure of themselves state their ideas as if they are facts and say things like 'can't', 'is not possible'. All I can say is you are missing out on a lot.[/QUOTE]
I agree without hesitance with your attitude. Can you give some examples of what they are missing out on?
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Original post: MaeveQ
''Be silent''
Well for one thing close mindedness is one of the deadly diseases of a magician.
I could make claims here but I wouldnt be able to prove. So I'd rather not to.
''Be silent''
Well for one thing close mindedness is one of the deadly diseases of a magician.
I could make claims here but I wouldnt be able to prove. So I'd rather not to.
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Original post: HankyDoodle
[QUOTE=ShekinahMoon]Would it not be easier to cross dress? If you want a temporary change seems to be that with the right clothes, hairstyle and outward adjustments you can very much appear the other geneder.
But back to your question, since people (from my readings) have been able to change from human to animal form I would think it is possible to change from you to someone else. I have always believed there is truth in all legends. But I got a feeling that level of magick is beyond the step 1,2,3 replies you can get on a message board. But requires intense magickal training over many years. I'm not sure anybody could put in a single post something as complex as that.[/QUOTE]
I only wanted to know if it was possable...like i said in another post here
[QUOTE=ShekinahMoon]Would it not be easier to cross dress? If you want a temporary change seems to be that with the right clothes, hairstyle and outward adjustments you can very much appear the other geneder.
But back to your question, since people (from my readings) have been able to change from human to animal form I would think it is possible to change from you to someone else. I have always believed there is truth in all legends. But I got a feeling that level of magick is beyond the step 1,2,3 replies you can get on a message board. But requires intense magickal training over many years. I'm not sure anybody could put in a single post something as complex as that.[/QUOTE]
I only wanted to know if it was possable...like i said in another post here
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Original post: Lord Cthulhu
If I wanted to change my gender (would be from male to female), it only be for two reasons.
1. So I can look at myself naked.
2. So I can finger myself all day and find out if this "multiple orgasm" myth is true.
Do I sound like an asshole?
hehe
If I wanted to change my gender (would be from male to female), it only be for two reasons.
1. So I can look at myself naked.
2. So I can finger myself all day and find out if this "multiple orgasm" myth is true.
Do I sound like an asshole?
hehe
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Original post: HankyDoodle
:lol: and thats all i can do for that post above
:lol: and thats all i can do for that post above
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Original post: Sub Rosa
There is another method, but it only works for people who are thin and fit.
Overweight people can't manage it.
In this excercise, the lovers spoon, and the male may reach around to the front of the woman and stimulate her, as if it is his own body (only a little bit fatter).
Or a woman can do the same with the man in front.
(the reason it doesn't work for fat people is because their arms aren't long enough to reach)
In this manner, the mind receives signals from the opposite gender, so the man feels what it is like to masterbate as a woman, or the woman feels what it is like to masterbate as a man.
As far as gender change goes, the two examples I gave are the only ones that work, short of a sex change operation.
There is another method, but it only works for people who are thin and fit.
Overweight people can't manage it.
In this excercise, the lovers spoon, and the male may reach around to the front of the woman and stimulate her, as if it is his own body (only a little bit fatter).
Or a woman can do the same with the man in front.
(the reason it doesn't work for fat people is because their arms aren't long enough to reach)
In this manner, the mind receives signals from the opposite gender, so the man feels what it is like to masterbate as a woman, or the woman feels what it is like to masterbate as a man.
As far as gender change goes, the two examples I gave are the only ones that work, short of a sex change operation.
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Original post: Lord Cthulhu
Lol, that's pretty cool. I guess I'll have to try it sometime;)
Lol, that's pretty cool. I guess I'll have to try it sometime;)
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Original post: Delta Project
I don't know of any sex changing spells, but a glamour may do the trick. The right spell and materials would be needed. I'm not entirely sure how long it would last, or if it would even change you completely. Worth a shot though.
I don't know of any sex changing spells, but a glamour may do the trick. The right spell and materials would be needed. I'm not entirely sure how long it would last, or if it would even change you completely. Worth a shot though.
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
[QUOTE=Delta Project]I don't know of any sex changing spells, but a glamour may do the trick. The right spell and materials would be needed. I'm not entirely sure how long it would last, or if it would even change you completely. Worth a shot though.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're up on your anatomy, because if you could work such a complicated spell it'd be neccesary to have an indepth knowledge of the physical and receptive pathways and qualities.
Ah...Also, if you really wanna cross the gender divide, there's always surgery, hormones and some masking tape.
[QUOTE=Delta Project]I don't know of any sex changing spells, but a glamour may do the trick. The right spell and materials would be needed. I'm not entirely sure how long it would last, or if it would even change you completely. Worth a shot though.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're up on your anatomy, because if you could work such a complicated spell it'd be neccesary to have an indepth knowledge of the physical and receptive pathways and qualities.
Ah...Also, if you really wanna cross the gender divide, there's always surgery, hormones and some masking tape.
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Original post: HankyDoodle
:lol: ..just a refresher that i'm only wondering if it can be done. not planing anything
:lol: ..just a refresher that i'm only wondering if it can be done. not planing anything
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PrimaelGen: Dragon Breathing
Prereq: none
Keywords: dragon breathing, cultivation
Version: 2005-02-17
Original URL: http://geocities.com/primaelgen/dragonbreathing.htm
Introduction
The Pump Method (http://www.geocities.com/ primaelgen/pump.htm) requires an extraordinary amount of personal power in order to spark the transformation. This is something that is not easily and casually achieved. Most traditions have some form of cultivating personal power. The one outlined here is the first phase of five phases called Dragon Breathing. This technique alone creates a healthier body and calms the emotions, worth the four weeks you would spend with it.
Ancient Chinese and Japanese cultures considered the dragon as a water spirit. Indeed, the Japanese word ryu means both school, stream of consciousness, and water dragon. The Chinese traditionally described the Emperor as the Dragon. In the West, the dragon myths has occupied a much feared and respected beast, mostly capturing pure maidens to be rescued by the knight-errant. All tribes of human culture have some sort of dragon myth; any child from around the world would be able to draw a dragon for you. That's a pretty universal archetype for a mythical creature. In fact, up until the mid 1800s, Western scientists have called the large, fossilized bones dragon bones. It wasn't until the mid 1800s that humanity started calling these bones as dinosaur fossils.
Along with the snake, the dragon has a reptilian nature, associated with what scientists call the " reptilian mind." This is part of the brain that concerns itself solely with survival. The region associated with the reptilian mind occupies the brain stem and the cerebellum, called the Jade Gate by the Taoists. This technique, when done over a four week period with sexual abstinence links the forebraine, through the amygdala, down the brain stem, the entire spine, and then to the energetic center of the body in the guts.
Dragon Breathing, the Basics
Like any technique, you need to relax. Learn how to relax in whatever position you are in. Relax the mind and any worries you might have. If you are on a time limit, set an alarm clock thirty minutes to an hour from now and then forget about any and all pressing things you need to do. There's no point in doing the Dragon Breathing if you're not willing to mentally let things go... and relax.
The technique uses a deep, abdominal breathing where your entire belly expands on the exhale and contracts on the inhale. Start by moving the belly out on the inhale and in on the exhale. Then add the sides of the belly so it expands with the front. Then do the same for the back, as if your intestines are wrapping around the spine. Then do this for the pelvic region -- expand out on the inhale. YOu are filling your entire belly like a balloon.
Once you can easily, and relaxedly breath from your belly like this, you are ready for the actual Dragon Breathing.
Inhale through the nostrils. Feel the air, it will pass up the bridge of the nose and in between the brow. At this point, you need to feel the energy of the air rather than the air itself. You do this by imagining the energy being extracted out from the point between the brow (called the third eye). By imagining, PrimaelGen means both seeing the energy, and feeling the energy.
Move this energy while you are inhaling (and your belly is expanding outwards) up along to the crown (the hollow indentation at the top of your head), down to the base of the skull (another hollow point where the skull meets the spine), down the spine, out the tailbone, to the pubic bone, to the navel and then in through the navel to the inside of your guts.
Hold it there for five seconds. You might feel more energy streaming into that part of your guts and expanding. Feel it heating up like a furnace.
Exhale the air through your mouth like you are breathing out that energy.
Repeat.
Once you become adept at this, on a cold day, you should be able to create a very long chain of water condensation like a dragon's breath.
Technical Details
You need to hit these points during the Dragon Breath, the totality forming what is called the Water Path:
1. Breath in from nostrils (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV28)
2. Third Eye
3. Crown (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV20)
4. Jade Pillow ( http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=BL9)
5. Base of the neck (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV14)
6. Mid- back (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV7)
7. Gate of Destiny (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV4)
8. The last vertabrae that's directly attached to the tailbone (sacrum)
9. The tip of the tailbone, as it curls into the anal orifice
10. Huiyin (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=CV1)
11. Guanyuan (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=CV4)
12. Hold in the gut at or below the navel on the inside.
Caveats
While you can do this as a nice, parlour trick, to get the full benefit you must do this daily (or twice daily) for a significant amount of time (30 mins or more per session) for four weeks straight. You must also not ejaculate during these four weeks. This includes both sex, masturbation and nocturnal emissions. This is not as hard as it sound, because done right, your body starts creating pleasant waves and orgasms throughout the day. Most people have sex to get those feelings, why go through all that trouble when it happens regularly during the cultivation?
More importantly, you might get headaches or dizziness initially as you concentrate on your third eye. You must draw that congestion down the Water Path with the energy you're pulling out of the air. This will usually clear very rapidly. It's nice to live with a clear head. The main point benefit coming from this cultivation is relaxing deeper into your body, to allow the survival and transfomative intelligence to take over. This lets you grow, and lets you grow calmer, at the same time being better able to handle joy. Joy is as difficult to maintain as depression. This is especially important if there's a big disparity between your body image and you. You might also find that your breathing and energy evolve during the cultivation -- don't fight it, it is probably this intelligence speaking through your body.
Variation
There might be a time when the imagry of having a female body (or whatever body) forms at around the third eye. Allow that to circulate, as it will start getting the body used to physical transformation. Don't force the visualization, however. It's more important to relax and let the energy flow through you naturally as you breath.
PrimaelGen
PrimaelGen: Dragon Breathing
Prereq: none
Keywords: dragon breathing, cultivation
Version: 2005-02-17
Original URL: http://geocities.com/primaelgen/dragonbreathing.htm
Introduction
The Pump Method (http://www.geocities.com/ primaelgen/pump.htm) requires an extraordinary amount of personal power in order to spark the transformation. This is something that is not easily and casually achieved. Most traditions have some form of cultivating personal power. The one outlined here is the first phase of five phases called Dragon Breathing. This technique alone creates a healthier body and calms the emotions, worth the four weeks you would spend with it.
Ancient Chinese and Japanese cultures considered the dragon as a water spirit. Indeed, the Japanese word ryu means both school, stream of consciousness, and water dragon. The Chinese traditionally described the Emperor as the Dragon. In the West, the dragon myths has occupied a much feared and respected beast, mostly capturing pure maidens to be rescued by the knight-errant. All tribes of human culture have some sort of dragon myth; any child from around the world would be able to draw a dragon for you. That's a pretty universal archetype for a mythical creature. In fact, up until the mid 1800s, Western scientists have called the large, fossilized bones dragon bones. It wasn't until the mid 1800s that humanity started calling these bones as dinosaur fossils.
Along with the snake, the dragon has a reptilian nature, associated with what scientists call the " reptilian mind." This is part of the brain that concerns itself solely with survival. The region associated with the reptilian mind occupies the brain stem and the cerebellum, called the Jade Gate by the Taoists. This technique, when done over a four week period with sexual abstinence links the forebraine, through the amygdala, down the brain stem, the entire spine, and then to the energetic center of the body in the guts.
Dragon Breathing, the Basics
Like any technique, you need to relax. Learn how to relax in whatever position you are in. Relax the mind and any worries you might have. If you are on a time limit, set an alarm clock thirty minutes to an hour from now and then forget about any and all pressing things you need to do. There's no point in doing the Dragon Breathing if you're not willing to mentally let things go... and relax.
The technique uses a deep, abdominal breathing where your entire belly expands on the exhale and contracts on the inhale. Start by moving the belly out on the inhale and in on the exhale. Then add the sides of the belly so it expands with the front. Then do the same for the back, as if your intestines are wrapping around the spine. Then do this for the pelvic region -- expand out on the inhale. YOu are filling your entire belly like a balloon.
Once you can easily, and relaxedly breath from your belly like this, you are ready for the actual Dragon Breathing.
Inhale through the nostrils. Feel the air, it will pass up the bridge of the nose and in between the brow. At this point, you need to feel the energy of the air rather than the air itself. You do this by imagining the energy being extracted out from the point between the brow (called the third eye). By imagining, PrimaelGen means both seeing the energy, and feeling the energy.
Move this energy while you are inhaling (and your belly is expanding outwards) up along to the crown (the hollow indentation at the top of your head), down to the base of the skull (another hollow point where the skull meets the spine), down the spine, out the tailbone, to the pubic bone, to the navel and then in through the navel to the inside of your guts.
Hold it there for five seconds. You might feel more energy streaming into that part of your guts and expanding. Feel it heating up like a furnace.
Exhale the air through your mouth like you are breathing out that energy.
Repeat.
Once you become adept at this, on a cold day, you should be able to create a very long chain of water condensation like a dragon's breath.
Technical Details
You need to hit these points during the Dragon Breath, the totality forming what is called the Water Path:
1. Breath in from nostrils (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV28)
2. Third Eye
3. Crown (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV20)
4. Jade Pillow ( http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=BL9)
5. Base of the neck (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV14)
6. Mid- back (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV7)
7. Gate of Destiny (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=GV4)
8. The last vertabrae that's directly attached to the tailbone (sacrum)
9. The tip of the tailbone, as it curls into the anal orifice
10. Huiyin (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=CV1)
11. Guanyuan (http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPictures.asp?point=CV4)
12. Hold in the gut at or below the navel on the inside.
Caveats
While you can do this as a nice, parlour trick, to get the full benefit you must do this daily (or twice daily) for a significant amount of time (30 mins or more per session) for four weeks straight. You must also not ejaculate during these four weeks. This includes both sex, masturbation and nocturnal emissions. This is not as hard as it sound, because done right, your body starts creating pleasant waves and orgasms throughout the day. Most people have sex to get those feelings, why go through all that trouble when it happens regularly during the cultivation?
More importantly, you might get headaches or dizziness initially as you concentrate on your third eye. You must draw that congestion down the Water Path with the energy you're pulling out of the air. This will usually clear very rapidly. It's nice to live with a clear head. The main point benefit coming from this cultivation is relaxing deeper into your body, to allow the survival and transfomative intelligence to take over. This lets you grow, and lets you grow calmer, at the same time being better able to handle joy. Joy is as difficult to maintain as depression. This is especially important if there's a big disparity between your body image and you. You might also find that your breathing and energy evolve during the cultivation -- don't fight it, it is probably this intelligence speaking through your body.
Variation
There might be a time when the imagry of having a female body (or whatever body) forms at around the third eye. Allow that to circulate, as it will start getting the body used to physical transformation. Don't force the visualization, however. It's more important to relax and let the energy flow through you naturally as you breath.
PrimaelGen
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Original post: LSVPA
PrimaelGen:
Thankyou so much for this information.
PrimaelGen:
Thankyou so much for this information.
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Original post: eleventhdr
If it will make you happy i will try here. as well. anything to please really. But i kind of find this thread kind of long. But maybe there is some useful info here as well.. Since i am new here to your forumn. Anyway if and when you do wish to continue the discussion here i am open to that. Thank's. Maybe that's how the thread work here in the forumns. Well alright!.
If it will make you happy i will try here. as well. anything to please really. But i kind of find this thread kind of long. But maybe there is some useful info here as well.. Since i am new here to your forumn. Anyway if and when you do wish to continue the discussion here i am open to that. Thank's. Maybe that's how the thread work here in the forumns. Well alright!.
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Original post: Qryztufre
[QUOTE=eleventhdr]If it will make you happy i will try here. as well. anything to please really. But i kind of find this thread kind of long. But maybe there is some useful info here as well.. Since i am new here to your forumn. Anyway if and when you do wish to continue the discussion here i am open to that. Thank's. Maybe that's how the thread work here in the forumns. Well alright!.[/QUOTE]A few posting tips:
Now it's clear you are interested in the subject at hand, you've started two threads on the matter....now I suggest you actually read this thread, take a few notes, then re-bump it with some actual input (questions, comments, ideas, thoughts)...as that is the only way this thread will actually progress in ways you want it too...By just saying "let the discussion continue" will not do all that much for your cause.
[QUOTE=eleventhdr]If it will make you happy i will try here. as well. anything to please really. But i kind of find this thread kind of long. But maybe there is some useful info here as well.. Since i am new here to your forumn. Anyway if and when you do wish to continue the discussion here i am open to that. Thank's. Maybe that's how the thread work here in the forumns. Well alright!.[/QUOTE]A few posting tips:
- Think up an idea
- Search to see if it's discussed
- If it is, BUMP the thread with further discussion
If it's not, create a new thread that promotes discussion
- Bumping a thread with X number of pages without saying much
- Starting a thread that does not promote discussion.
Now it's clear you are interested in the subject at hand, you've started two threads on the matter....now I suggest you actually read this thread, take a few notes, then re-bump it with some actual input (questions, comments, ideas, thoughts)...as that is the only way this thread will actually progress in ways you want it too...By just saying "let the discussion continue" will not do all that much for your cause.