Original post: Alpha&Omega
Could someone help me with summoning a demon this is the first time in summoning something. Could a demon physically hurt me? Am I putting myself at a big risk? Should I start off on something else if so what. And how
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Original post: doh
This is only my opinion.
As with any summoning, you can put yourself at risk. A demon CAN physically hurt you, but mentally is much worse. Most beings don't care to be summoned in the first place, so the are usually at least a little beligerent.
I would make sure you have a REASON to summon one (perhaps a question you have or some information you are seeking) before doing it. I, personally, wouldn't do it "just to see if you could".
You must have the will to make it happen. Meaning, you must be confident in your abilities.
I would also make sure that your protections are strong on the in case that it doesn't work out as you expect. That includes having a good banishing AND (prefferably)/or binding rituals or spells.
I don't mean to frighten you because it's always a big step and usually scary enough as it is.
But, also, the journey of 1,000 miles starts with the first step. So if you feel you are ready to do this and have a reason for doing it (and reasons are as abundant as leaves in a forest), I say go for it.
This is only my opinion.
As with any summoning, you can put yourself at risk. A demon CAN physically hurt you, but mentally is much worse. Most beings don't care to be summoned in the first place, so the are usually at least a little beligerent.
I would make sure you have a REASON to summon one (perhaps a question you have or some information you are seeking) before doing it. I, personally, wouldn't do it "just to see if you could".
You must have the will to make it happen. Meaning, you must be confident in your abilities.
I would also make sure that your protections are strong on the in case that it doesn't work out as you expect. That includes having a good banishing AND (prefferably)/or binding rituals or spells.
I don't mean to frighten you because it's always a big step and usually scary enough as it is.
But, also, the journey of 1,000 miles starts with the first step. So if you feel you are ready to do this and have a reason for doing it (and reasons are as abundant as leaves in a forest), I say go for it.
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Original post: Bazaapodeh
is there any particular demon that you want to summon ,?
is there any particular demon that you want to summon ,?
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What would be a safe spirt to summon
What would be a safe spirt to summon
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Original post: Alpha&Omega
No I am just trying to get back at someone. What would be a good demon to summon.
No I am just trying to get back at someone. What would be a good demon to summon.
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[QUOTE=Alpha&Omega]What would be a safe spirt to summon[/QUOTE]
If you find a "safe" spirit to summon (i.e. one that doesn't mind on you calling it because of familiarity or anything else), let me know. And try to stay away from the tricksters. They aren't called tricksters for no reason.
EDITED: I personally wouldn't use it to get back at someone. They usually ask for something in return for something like that. You best be willing to pay their price and it isn't usually negotiable. Again, only my personal belief.
[QUOTE=Alpha&Omega]What would be a safe spirt to summon[/QUOTE]
If you find a "safe" spirit to summon (i.e. one that doesn't mind on you calling it because of familiarity or anything else), let me know. And try to stay away from the tricksters. They aren't called tricksters for no reason.
EDITED: I personally wouldn't use it to get back at someone. They usually ask for something in return for something like that. You best be willing to pay their price and it isn't usually negotiable. Again, only my personal belief.
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Original post: GeNoCyDe
Don't mess with daemons,they don't appreciate being F**ked with.a nice strong,directed intent of malice has been very effective in my experience.depending on:
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volume of malice
you could concieveably do anything from give them the blasting trotts to kill them.have fun with your hate,it's what it's there for.
Don't mess with daemons,they don't appreciate being F**ked with.a nice strong,directed intent of malice has been very effective in my experience.depending on:
link
skill
volume of malice
you could concieveably do anything from give them the blasting trotts to kill them.have fun with your hate,it's what it's there for.
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Original post: Alpha&Omega
What do they normally ask in return?
What do they normally ask in return?
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Original post: Qryztufre
You don't want to get into summon for revenge or malice...there are easier and SAFER alternatives. If you happen to believe in Karma summoning a demon to do something bad to another will not only give you the bad side of karma, it may also make you deal with what you've summoned.
Cast a handful of spells, a sigil or thirty, a few prayers...just leave other entities out of it till you know more about what you are doing magickally.
One thing I've found to be effective is if they know you know magick just letting them know you are 'planning' something works WONDERS. I once had someone believe they had spells cast at them left and right from me. While I was casting spells, they were protections for myself from their idiocy. The "evil eye" can be VERY powerful, but so can just a simple 'sideways glance' if your victim is paranoid enough
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You don't want to get into summon for revenge or malice...there are easier and SAFER alternatives. If you happen to believe in Karma summoning a demon to do something bad to another will not only give you the bad side of karma, it may also make you deal with what you've summoned.
Cast a handful of spells, a sigil or thirty, a few prayers...just leave other entities out of it till you know more about what you are doing magickally.
One thing I've found to be effective is if they know you know magick just letting them know you are 'planning' something works WONDERS. I once had someone believe they had spells cast at them left and right from me. While I was casting spells, they were protections for myself from their idiocy. The "evil eye" can be VERY powerful, but so can just a simple 'sideways glance' if your victim is paranoid enough
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Original post: doh
[QUOTE=Alpha&Omega]What do they normally ask in return?[/QUOTE]
If you have to ask, you don't want to know. Basically, you can tell what any entity will ask (or a fascimile thereof) from you based on your knowledge of said entity. Anything done out of malice usually asks for a higher price, just because they can. Again, my personal beliefs here.
I'm not really a Satanist, per se, but I've got some real Satanist leanings. I don't want to seem an a**hole here, A & O, but I don't think you are ready to do a summoning. You are setting yourself up to get seriously mind f**ked.
[QUOTE=Alpha&Omega]What do they normally ask in return?[/QUOTE]
If you have to ask, you don't want to know. Basically, you can tell what any entity will ask (or a fascimile thereof) from you based on your knowledge of said entity. Anything done out of malice usually asks for a higher price, just because they can. Again, my personal beliefs here.
I'm not really a Satanist, per se, but I've got some real Satanist leanings. I don't want to seem an a**hole here, A & O, but I don't think you are ready to do a summoning. You are setting yourself up to get seriously mind f**ked.
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Original post: Alpha&Omega
WEll how about bringing a dead relative back in spirit form.
WEll how about bringing a dead relative back in spirit form.
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Original post: doh
Only if the dead relative is the one you are pissed off at.
Only if the dead relative is the one you are pissed off at.
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Original post: Interstellis
Not trying to be a smartass here, but are you just trying to impress (or scare) someone or do you really have a specific intent that your Will alone isn't strong enough to accomplish w/o the aid of external entities?
Like Q said, sometimes you can have a sufficient effect on people just by hinting around that you are engaging in magic against them without actually doing it. Their fear could become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you barely have to lift a finger, thus reserving your energy for yourself.
Not trying to be a smartass here, but are you just trying to impress (or scare) someone or do you really have a specific intent that your Will alone isn't strong enough to accomplish w/o the aid of external entities?
Like Q said, sometimes you can have a sufficient effect on people just by hinting around that you are engaging in magic against them without actually doing it. Their fear could become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you barely have to lift a finger, thus reserving your energy for yourself.
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Original post: m1thr0s
Have a nice day...good hunting etc...
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Personally I have come to believe that the best way to learn about demons is to just go ahead and shove your tail between their teeth...Might seem a bit harsh but it's very educational...you have to choose your own demons though...you can't seriously expect anybody to do that for you...poke around, find one you like, create some oooeee ritual to invoke/evoke it and off you go...Can they hurt you? Only if you actually succeed at drumming one up. Good Xst man, why do you think they call them demons? But 99% of the time you'll die of boredom long before anything actually happens...Could someone help me with summoning a demon this is the first time in summoning something. Could a demon physically hurt me? Am I putting myself at a big risk? Should I start off on something else if so what. And how
Have a nice day...good hunting etc...
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Original post: Venus666
The best way to start working with ethereal spirits and demons is to choose a demon that could possibly benefit you in some way..
Like for instance, I chose a demon that specializes in teaching magick.., I used transvocation to gain knowledge of magick workings until I could direct it on my own...And I went into the bargain explaining my position that I wanted to learn magick so that I would not have to keep comming back to ask for help... it was a fortuitous deal.
By the way, do all the research you can before committing to a certain spirit. There is other ways of working with demons besides doing a full on summoning. If you do not have your psychic facilities developed then it wouldnt do you much good anyway...
look up Transvocation, it's an easier way to get the demon inside your psyche to work along with you (but be ware, everyone around you is affected in some way)
The best way to start working with ethereal spirits and demons is to choose a demon that could possibly benefit you in some way..
Like for instance, I chose a demon that specializes in teaching magick.., I used transvocation to gain knowledge of magick workings until I could direct it on my own...And I went into the bargain explaining my position that I wanted to learn magick so that I would not have to keep comming back to ask for help... it was a fortuitous deal.
By the way, do all the research you can before committing to a certain spirit. There is other ways of working with demons besides doing a full on summoning. If you do not have your psychic facilities developed then it wouldnt do you much good anyway...
look up Transvocation, it's an easier way to get the demon inside your psyche to work along with you (but be ware, everyone around you is affected in some way)
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Original post: DeathDealer
So how are you doing this? What's the spell you're using. Can I get it?? lol
So how are you doing this? What's the spell you're using. Can I get it?? lol
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Original post: Jenfucius
My suggestion is if you dont know. Then simply dont do it till you do know. Do some more research.
Its trying to fly a plane on the first day without first taking flight lessons. Generally not a good ideal. (Even if its a relative. You might conjure something else by accident instead.)
Start off on something else instead for now.
My suggestion is if you dont know. Then simply dont do it till you do know. Do some more research.
Its trying to fly a plane on the first day without first taking flight lessons. Generally not a good ideal. (Even if its a relative. You might conjure something else by accident instead.)
Start off on something else instead for now.
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[QUOTE=GeNoCyDe]Don't mess with daemons,they don't appreciate being F**ked with.a nice strong,directed intent of malice has been very effective in my experience.depending on:
link
skill
volume of malice
you could concieveably do anything from give them the blasting trotts to kill them.have fun with your hate,it's what it's there for.[/QUOTE]
From what you said, you seem to think that demons are here only for your bidding and are your slaves. You're wrong, they are very powerful and such things as you said are insulting to them. You may not think there are consequences, but there are. The demons are freed and can hurt you now, or, after you die, you will really be in for a rude awakening.
[QUOTE=GeNoCyDe]Don't mess with daemons,they don't appreciate being F**ked with.a nice strong,directed intent of malice has been very effective in my experience.depending on:
link
skill
volume of malice
you could concieveably do anything from give them the blasting trotts to kill them.have fun with your hate,it's what it's there for.[/QUOTE]
From what you said, you seem to think that demons are here only for your bidding and are your slaves. You're wrong, they are very powerful and such things as you said are insulting to them. You may not think there are consequences, but there are. The demons are freed and can hurt you now, or, after you die, you will really be in for a rude awakening.
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TO summon a spirit do i have to have a shrine i have some more questions on a different thread that i just currently posted if you would like in Ceremonial Magic and the post is Awake a indian spirit
TO summon a spirit do i have to have a shrine i have some more questions on a different thread that i just currently posted if you would like in Ceremonial Magic and the post is Awake a indian spirit
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Original post: m1thr0s
Alpha&Omega - this question does not appear to have anything to do with Satanism, Luciferianism, Setianism, Ningishzidaism or ANY of the dark arts that I can identify. Suffice it to say that there is an ENORMOUS amount of information widely available on summonsing both on the internet and in bookstores and libraries all across the planet. If you are looking to cut corners by getting a crash-course on these forums, you are going about this in the wrong way completely. Do some research for awhile and get a plan of action together from what you learn. There are no short-cuts to magick as it comes from YOU, in juxtaposed relation to everything else, so you get back proportionate to what you put in...
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Alpha&Omega - this question does not appear to have anything to do with Satanism, Luciferianism, Setianism, Ningishzidaism or ANY of the dark arts that I can identify. Suffice it to say that there is an ENORMOUS amount of information widely available on summonsing both on the internet and in bookstores and libraries all across the planet. If you are looking to cut corners by getting a crash-course on these forums, you are going about this in the wrong way completely. Do some research for awhile and get a plan of action together from what you learn. There are no short-cuts to magick as it comes from YOU, in juxtaposed relation to everything else, so you get back proportionate to what you put in...
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