selling your soul to satan

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Original post: erisdoe

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/SATANIC.html This pages discusses a dedication to Satan.


http://www.iamlost.com/features/pact/ Discusses a pact with Satan :lol:



http://witches.monstrous.com/the_pact.htm About pacts and how to break them.

For another take on it, the CM library has a copy of The Grande Grimoire and that book has information that should be of interest.

I am not going to discuss if it is possible with you here as this is in a Satanic forum and I am not a Satanist so I cannot give you a Satanist's perspective. But seriously, why bother? Still can't get over that girl, eh?

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Original post: erisdoe

*sigh* You might also want to go to the top of any page and click on search. Type "pacts" without the quotation marks into the box and look at some of the discussions here on OF about pacts.

EDIT: They are mocking the idea. I believe that their point is that nothing that you can gain in this short little life is worth that. The humor is why I placed the laughing face next to it. The Joy of Satan site mught be the best of what I gave you from a Satanist's perspective, while the book in the OF CM library is also interesting.

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Original post: erisdoe

Go here: http://occultforums.com/showpost.php?p=41533&postcount=2

and look under, I think, other Grimoires and you will see 2 versions of Grand Grimoire. Either one should do, but I am sure that the Dark Lodge version is excellent.

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Original post: Thorn

haha nobody here has sold thier soul. The "Pact with Satan" is a pact with yourself.

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Original post: Thermonuclear_soul

Selling your soul to an inferior being is idiocy. Therefore you must be an idiot.

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Original post: Thorn

speaking of which...

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Original post: m1thr0s

LOL...now that's what you call a self-fulfilling prophecy...hehe...

The soul market ain't what it used to be...these days Satan would be more likely to be a seller than a buyer...

m1thr0s

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Original post: SAINT

The freedom from enslavement is the gift, not the curse. can you see the difference?

Give your soul to anyone keen for a gimp, as that is your desire, to be anothers slave... for the soul you give is your misguided mind.


Go join a church, they accept donations, preferably cash, but mental enslavement is on the menu. The god myth of the bible wants your soul, not the god you could be..

Educate yourself and realise your potential lies not upon the dreams of power but upon the path of action

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Original post: KissTheDevil

haha nobody here has sold thier soul. The "Pact with Satan" is a pact with yourself.

Thorn got it. Satan is a force inside you, not a creature without.

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Original post: morphine

erisdoe
The first two links are simply ....kiddish

The last one makes sense.more like pacts with the devil from hyatt and jason black

morphine

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Original post: Venus666

selling your soul? Im going to tell you some things about satanisim that you might not have known:
Souls are a dime a dozen, my friend. But go ahead, grovel at the feet of satan.
You may or may not know that the 'selling of souls" was a mockery of satanisim made by the christians. Just like during the dark ages, they had pictures of people kissing the devil's ass. This was to ensure that people went to church and gave thir last penny to the preacher. There within is the christian version of satanisim, where they think that they know what really goes on, but how can they know anything but 'christianity'.
I have been a satanist for 13 yrs. and I have never sold my soul.
However, I have dedicated my life's work to the cause of satanisim. That's not the same thing as selliing your soul.
Selling your soul to satan ensures you a place in satan's army as a lackey, a mere plaything
Not good. Youre supposed to stand alone and do things on your own, not be lead ( like in other religions)
What I did, when I was ready, was a dedication.
I wrote on a parchment my dedicaton and then I did a lil' ritual, and it was over.
It was important, because from that point on I knew that I wanted to work for the cause of satanisim.....

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Original post: Väkisinkastettu

[QUOTE=Thorn]haha nobody here has sold thier soul. The "Pact with Satan" is a pact with yourself.[/QUOTE]

Please try to understand that the way you think might not be the ultimate truth nor the way everyone else thinks. The next time you go to your nobody here's, leave me out of that.

I have said this before and I can say it again, I have made a pact with the Devil. For me, this is a key part of traditional satanism.

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Original post: m1thr0s

hehe...you know, I like you Väkisinkastettu...don't altogether understand you but I like you and you are quite right of course...we shouldn't be so damn quick to exclude our more theistically inclined brethren...I can easily imagine how a pact with Satan can be viewed very much as a sacred vow or a powerful personal commitment or even a kind of marriage for that matter...we shouldn't be so quick to toss the baby out with the bathwater just because "pacts with satan" are so commonly approached in such cheap and sordid ways...that's more a question of bad form I think, and a shallow understanding...Approached in the right way, how can a pact with satan be any different really than a pact with satanism itself which many of us here have undertaken...different perceptions sure...same objectives though I think...

I recognize that in my own mind I have come to reject all notions of personified deity - probably mostly due to having been drowned in lies and false embodiments to such an extent that I finally just gave them all the fucking boot - get out of my goddamn house and stay out sort of thing...but I do question it sometimes nevertheless because I find myself letting them in the back door under assumed guises anyway...cloaked as "principles" or "properties" etc...As I get older, and perhaps a bit more confident in my own ability to set the rules however I may need to...I still wonder that I may not have overreacted to some extent...not that I am missing anything necessarily. It's almost more like a question of wealth somehow. Just because you acquire diamonds doesn't make gold and rubies "wrong"...I don't know...that analogy may not be so great...

m1thr0s

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Original post: Venus666

[QUOTE=Väkisinkastettu]
I have said this before and I can say it again, I have made a pact with the Devil. For me, this is a key part of traditional satanism.[/QUOTE]
I, for one, am a traditionalist, and I agree with this statement.
What it all comes down to though, that there are many different ways to make this kind of dedicaton to satan, whether by parchment or in your mind.
Whether he/it is within your mind or in the cosmos as a being, the effect is the same.
Psychologically, sub-conciously this helps you to move on to the next step and to get focused.

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Original post: Spes

I agree with Venus on this, it always bothers me why people here and generally get into arguing over terminology. The final results are always the same.
In a way I could say I sold my soul, made a pact years ago. Did I go to crossroads at midnight or sacrifice, gave a drop of blood on parchment? No ofcourse. I think I might be close to truth to say many here see making pact with Devil as christianity explained this.
No matter what, deep inside I have been always dedicated to same on thing.

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Original post: AJAtheMetastasis

I think the issue here is not so much semantics, but motive. If you are (shallow) and only desire to make a pact with Satan perse' because (you) want him to do the *grunt* work in your life because you do not have the ability or motivation to do so yourself; you are a lazy sell-out. And quite useless in his legions when seen from a bird's-eye view. I'm not saying a large precentage approach Satan in this fashion; many do though. Satan represents the freedom of imagination, individuality, and strength in one's Self. If the pact is performed and kept in the proper context as an union/marriage with the force Satan represents I feel this can be a very powerful ritual for comitment's sake; it all depends upon the practioner.

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Original post: Spes

I think of Satan as someone who can give a rod for fishing or point out where to dig for hidden treasure. It's like when you have a hunch if you know what I mean.

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Original post: Venus666

[QUOTE=AJAtheMetastasis]I think the issue here is not so much semantics, but motive. If you are (shallow) and only desire to make a pact with Satan perse' because (you) want him to do the *grunt* work in your life because you do not have the ability or motivation to do so yourself; you are a lazy sell-out. And quite useless in his legions when seen from a bird's-eye view. I'm not saying a large precentage approach Satan in this fashion; many do though. Satan represents the freedom of imagination, individuality, and strength in one's Self. If the pact is performed and kept in the proper context as an union/marriage with the force Satan represents I feel this can be a very powerful ritual for comitment's sake; it all depends upon the practioner.[/QUOTE] Most definately, AJA. This is why I originally got into satanisim. Not because I wanted help with doing things in life, but because I want to be shown the best and smartest way to do things. I thought: evil=smart , good=dumb and that's what lead me down the path of satanism. I statred doing rituals and pretty soon, things would appear in my life, like opportunities and open doors. Then I had a chance to proove myself and take the opportunity and make what I could of it. Like you said, satan represents imagination, individuality, and this is very true to the wise practicioner.
I got into satanisim real heavy last year after having studied it for 13 years. I dedicated myself to the cause when I was 13, but back then I really had no Idea what it really meant, as a religion. Then I studied Lavey and whatever else I could get my hands on for a few more years. I put it down when I was in a 7 year relationship, and we eventually broke up and moved on--I got back into it last year realizing that I was now ready to have a commitment to satanisim as a way of life, and to satan as a god.
I cant tell you how many opportunities have come to me because of this. My life is so much better and I can see it every day. If satan were a god, I feel that I would have to stand before him with pride and self-worth..Not saying it's all lollipops and roses, LOL. I have been through moments of self doubt that have been life changing several times, this makes sure I am true to myself and my free will.
I want to further the cause of satanisim, and I see how its principles have affected me and those around me.
he he he which reminds me, the only thing that I do like about the bible and it does make a good point. This is what got me intrested in satanisim in the first place. Lucifer , seen as being cast down from heaven, was the original rebel and the first one to break away from the status quo, all the while never doubting his own beauty, intellegence and grace. LOL little did 'god' know that he would spend the rest of his eternity tring to fight the force of satan. So much for omnipotence LOL

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Original post: Spes

Nicely said Venus.
I too have got into satanism more and more heavily in last year(s).

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Original post: Venus666

well there is an actual, raelistic reason why I am a satanist; it has real meaning to me and wasnt just somethig I did because it was cool
it allows me to take advantage of society instead of having to be controlled by it. It is said that all organsisims are made either to conquer or serve; this is simply how it is

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Original post: SatsUrn

[QUOTE=YupThisAlex]ive heard of this before but always wondered if it were possible. does anyone know of any books or sites that would explain the ritual or better clearify things?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I never thought of selling my soul, but I admire you if you should make that pact with the deity. Some people think I have sold my soul/spirit, but I have no spirit to sell or give away. When you publicly announce that you have sold or dedicated your soul to this, I wish You many great tidings and joys. But when you do it, you should acquire something made of gold and charge it and wear it.
The greater the charge value and artistic style of the charged sigil the more life comes to you. I possess for instance special cut emeralds and diamonds that have been charged with energy and cut to specifications. To me it is like another relationship committment. I would start with an emerald ring denoting your self within. Next seek out flexible gold bands, with No moving parts. I cut one emerald in marquis style and links me to the energy of fussion and life giving stars. Next the flexi gold, is really for biological enhancement as the human body requires minute amounts of gold that is absorbed through the skin, a solitary diamond rock ring grants entrance to all places. There are more, but one should start with a simple birth stone to see if any enrichment takes place. I cannot go into why this works or everyone would be doing it. lol My point here is that gold and stones enrich the wearer in ways that only someone who has experienced can relate. I know this sounds strange but try it and see if there is any difference. Occultist people will be able to recognize you and assist you if you wear the sigils, they shall say he/she is in the book, or she/he is 1/3 or 2/3 or 1 = 1 = 11
2/3 = 666
1/3 = 333
1 =1 = complete
Well I got to run.
Sats
This is just my experience and everyone else is different

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Original post: AJAtheMetastasis

[QUOTE=SatsUrn]Hi,
I never thought of selling my soul, but I admire you if you should make that pact with the deity. Some people think I have sold my soul/spirit, but I have no spirit to sell or give away. When you publicly announce that you have sold or dedicated your soul to this, I wish You many great tidings and joys. But when you do it, you should acquire something made of gold and charge it and wear it.
The greater the charge value and artistic style of the charged sigil the more life comes to you. I possess for instance special cut emeralds and diamonds that have been charged with energy and cut to specifications. To me it is like another relationship committment. I would start with an emerald ring denoting your self within. Next seek out flexible gold bands, with No moving parts. I cut one emerald in marquis style and links me to the energy of fussion and life giving stars. Next the flexi gold, is really for biological enhancement as the human body requires minute amounts of gold that is absorbed through the skin, a solitary diamond rock ring grants entrance to all places. There are more, but one should start with a simple birth stone to see if any enrichment takes place. I cannot go into why this works or everyone would be doing it. lol My point here is that gold and stones enrich the wearer in ways that only someone who has experienced can relate. I know this sounds strange but try it and see if there is any difference. Occultist people will be able to recognize you and assist you if you wear the sigils, they shall say he/she is in the book, or she/he is 1/3 or 2/3 or 1 = 1 = 11
2/3 = 666
1/3 = 333
1 =1 = complete
Well I got to run.
Sats
This is just my experience and everyone else is different [/QUOTE]
Interesting comments you've made here SatsUrn concerning energy manipulation with Gems. I myself also use Stones and Gems in various spiritual workings via Shamanistic magick and ritual. One recieves results very quickly when using these items to enhance one's Self. Keep in touch with me concerning this avenue of approach to spiritual enlightenment/delevopment.

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Hi there, I liked your answer to the matter...good!

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