Original post: durki
World is besotted with plethora of misunderstandings about sex. People hold various opinions on this subject ranging from it being an evil to it being the highest thing. Very fact that all of us are there on planet earth through the agency of procreation shows that it can not be an evil. Yet the act in itself is bestial so it can't be the highest thing. Once a person is born on earth, he/she should experience every thing - sex being one of the most important. Sex among all things is governed by laws from the grossest to the subtlest level and so it should conform to them - incest, for example, being some thing out of law. There are alternates or variations in sex which go against hygiene, morality, sciences and eternal social values; they should be avoided. Now question comes of frequency. Some wizened beings proffer sage counselling that it should be once in a week on friday which is governed by Venus. Frequency of sex would depend on climate, food habits, age, evoution of a person, et cetera. Next comes the question of partner. Sex-partner should be such that you get spurred, goaded and catapulted to spiritual heights through him/her, some thing like a soul-mate. If a child is born of the union, lavish care should be bestowed upon it because it would not only be beneficial to the child but it will also improve your karma so much so that it would facilitate your easy movement or travel or voyage to higher spiritual dimensions. Finally sex should be regulated, optimized and managed in such a way that it is a stepping stone conducive to spiritual pursuits rather than a stumbling block.
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
[QUOTE=durki] Finally sex should be regulated, optimized and managed in such a way that it is a stepping stone conducive to spiritual pursuits rather than a stumbling block.[/QUOTE]
Sooo...it cant ever just be fun???:roll:
A few too many "shoulds" in there durki....sounds a bit idealistic to me.
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[QUOTE=durki] Finally sex should be regulated, optimized and managed in such a way that it is a stepping stone conducive to spiritual pursuits rather than a stumbling block.[/QUOTE]
Sooo...it cant ever just be fun???:roll:
A few too many "shoulds" in there durki....sounds a bit idealistic to me.
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Original post: DropAndRiver
What good does all this do you? Partaking in what is deemed improper, taboo, or inconsistent doesn't make you ill... it makes you an occultist.
How about, instead of trying to avoid all the complexities and even pain that is involved with sex and the bonds it creates, why don't people just face the pain, the social commentary, and the emotion and overcome it? Sooner or later it will have to be done, and now is a better time than ever. In the words of Grey's Anatomy, "So instead of spending your life drawing lines, how about spending it crossing them. Because the view from outside... is wonderful."
Something so magical and, hell, as FUN as sex is not going to be made into routine. That is how divorces are set in stone. Randomness, and perhaps even a tinge of perversion, is what keeps the flame going. Sex is not math, and it can't be made into a prescription. Sex is as complicated and as uncontrollable as it is, and no one can change it. Who wants to hear this from their partner, "Honey, I would love to have sex, but our regional climate just isn't budging!"?
What good does all this do you? Partaking in what is deemed improper, taboo, or inconsistent doesn't make you ill... it makes you an occultist.
How about, instead of trying to avoid all the complexities and even pain that is involved with sex and the bonds it creates, why don't people just face the pain, the social commentary, and the emotion and overcome it? Sooner or later it will have to be done, and now is a better time than ever. In the words of Grey's Anatomy, "So instead of spending your life drawing lines, how about spending it crossing them. Because the view from outside... is wonderful."
Something so magical and, hell, as FUN as sex is not going to be made into routine. That is how divorces are set in stone. Randomness, and perhaps even a tinge of perversion, is what keeps the flame going. Sex is not math, and it can't be made into a prescription. Sex is as complicated and as uncontrollable as it is, and no one can change it. Who wants to hear this from their partner, "Honey, I would love to have sex, but our regional climate just isn't budging!"?
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
lol D&R, you are like, so wise.
Well said.
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lol D&R, you are like, so wise.
Well said.
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Original post: dionysius33
[QUOTE=durki] Finally sex should be regulated, optimized and managed in such a way that it is a stepping stone conducive to spiritual pursuits rather than a stumbling block.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he was using Reverse Psychology.. whenever you try and tell a group of people to start regulating, optimizing and managing, you get rebellion and all sorts of innovation and perversions
[QUOTE=durki] Finally sex should be regulated, optimized and managed in such a way that it is a stepping stone conducive to spiritual pursuits rather than a stumbling block.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he was using Reverse Psychology.. whenever you try and tell a group of people to start regulating, optimizing and managing, you get rebellion and all sorts of innovation and perversions
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Original post: durki
Perverted random erratic sex is okay as long as it is kept only upto the level of healthy fun and is carried out with detachment at mock-level more as a joke to pass time rather than as some thing serious with full involvement. Any way, periodic voluntary or involuntary semenal emission is required to purge/divest/cleanse our physico-emotional matrix of biological toxins & dross but it should not be done in an unhygienic fashion.
Perverted random erratic sex is okay as long as it is kept only upto the level of healthy fun and is carried out with detachment at mock-level more as a joke to pass time rather than as some thing serious with full involvement. Any way, periodic voluntary or involuntary semenal emission is required to purge/divest/cleanse our physico-emotional matrix of biological toxins & dross but it should not be done in an unhygienic fashion.
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Original post: Acid09
I think the main draw of "divine" energy I get is in experiencing the freedom from being a human force to follow the rules in a society, but an animal engaged in an act of lust. To reduce that to a rigid system that must be followed to achieve results takes away from that primal joy. I think if one is to truely experience the power of sex they should do it in a way that communicates their desires to their partner and visa versa and engage in those desires. Perhaps also learn some taoist philosophies/techniques to improve the duration, quality and circulation of energies. But beyond that sex isn't, to me, some thing should be controled or contained. But enjoyed. Through that enjoyment that satisfaction of having fullfilled that primal desire one can harness that energy to heal and promote longevity, even form a bond to another human being.
I think the main draw of "divine" energy I get is in experiencing the freedom from being a human force to follow the rules in a society, but an animal engaged in an act of lust. To reduce that to a rigid system that must be followed to achieve results takes away from that primal joy. I think if one is to truely experience the power of sex they should do it in a way that communicates their desires to their partner and visa versa and engage in those desires. Perhaps also learn some taoist philosophies/techniques to improve the duration, quality and circulation of energies. But beyond that sex isn't, to me, some thing should be controled or contained. But enjoyed. Through that enjoyment that satisfaction of having fullfilled that primal desire one can harness that energy to heal and promote longevity, even form a bond to another human being.
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Original post: MagiAwen
[QUOTE=durki]Perverted random erratic sex is okay as long as it is kept only upto the level of healthy fun and is carried out with detachment at mock-level more as a joke to pass time rather than as some thing serious with full involvement. [/quote]Being detached from sex is usually a sign that someone has been taught sex is "dirty" or not possessing a part of the divine... it is also something that a lot of sexual crime victims feel. I greatly disagree with your statements. Sex is something to be enjoyed by both or however many people are involved, actively participated in and revered. It can draw and combine power as well as deplete it. It is also healthy as long as you aren't running around spreading some disease. So while a person should reviere it as they are expressing and sharing a part of their most intimate and vulnerable emotions....there is nothing wrong with expressing yourself in a way that other people may find perverted.
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Any way, periodic voluntary or involuntary semenal emission is required to purge/divest/cleanse our physico-emotional matrix of biological toxins & dross but it should not be done in an unhygienic fashion.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you are trying to say in this last one. It looks to me like you are saying that people need to orgasm... more specifically men..as a requirement to release toxins. I would like to see where that came from. Semen is not toxic unless you have some sort of disease that is spread through it. As I think about what you are saying...if this is really what you are saying and you are serious about it... I fear for what is out there that people are picking up.
But you know...at first I chuckled as it looks like an excuse for men to masterbate a lot as long as they have a sani-wipe handy.
[QUOTE=durki]Perverted random erratic sex is okay as long as it is kept only upto the level of healthy fun and is carried out with detachment at mock-level more as a joke to pass time rather than as some thing serious with full involvement. [/quote]Being detached from sex is usually a sign that someone has been taught sex is "dirty" or not possessing a part of the divine... it is also something that a lot of sexual crime victims feel. I greatly disagree with your statements. Sex is something to be enjoyed by both or however many people are involved, actively participated in and revered. It can draw and combine power as well as deplete it. It is also healthy as long as you aren't running around spreading some disease. So while a person should reviere it as they are expressing and sharing a part of their most intimate and vulnerable emotions....there is nothing wrong with expressing yourself in a way that other people may find perverted.
[QUOTE=durki]
Any way, periodic voluntary or involuntary semenal emission is required to purge/divest/cleanse our physico-emotional matrix of biological toxins & dross but it should not be done in an unhygienic fashion.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you are trying to say in this last one. It looks to me like you are saying that people need to orgasm... more specifically men..as a requirement to release toxins. I would like to see where that came from. Semen is not toxic unless you have some sort of disease that is spread through it. As I think about what you are saying...if this is really what you are saying and you are serious about it... I fear for what is out there that people are picking up.
But you know...at first I chuckled as it looks like an excuse for men to masterbate a lot as long as they have a sani-wipe handy.
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Original post: durki
Do not get enamoured of pleasures derived from sexual acts because they pale into insignificance or nought as compared to the pleasures arising out of ecstatic bliss-joy that is your own once you attune to your inner spiritual state. Lust is lowly as compared to Love-Divine but it may arise on earth due to alcoholic & non-vegetarian intakes coupled with pornographic surroundings. In such a case, you can hold in your breath for about 1 minute and press the back of your pen against mid-point between your eye-brows. Still if it torments then go in for copulation or co-habitation for getting relief but remember not to be possessive of your sex-partner as it will spiritually block you as well as him/her.
Do not get enamoured of pleasures derived from sexual acts because they pale into insignificance or nought as compared to the pleasures arising out of ecstatic bliss-joy that is your own once you attune to your inner spiritual state. Lust is lowly as compared to Love-Divine but it may arise on earth due to alcoholic & non-vegetarian intakes coupled with pornographic surroundings. In such a case, you can hold in your breath for about 1 minute and press the back of your pen against mid-point between your eye-brows. Still if it torments then go in for copulation or co-habitation for getting relief but remember not to be possessive of your sex-partner as it will spiritually block you as well as him/her.
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Original post: adeadanubis
Durki, I wonder what it is in your background that makes you hate sex so much. Sex is neither crude nor holy, sex is just a natural part of being human. As for it paling in comparison to the "pleasures arising out of ecstatic bliss-joy that is your own once you attune to your inner spiritual state", as you put it, I've been there, done that, and still thoroughly enjoy all sexual activities, especial the kinkier ones. From my experiences, the joys of the spirit and the joys of the flesh can coexist quite pleasantly. Furthermore, I wonder if by constant, forced suppression of sexual desire (holding your breath for a minute whenever you get horny!?), you aren't just fooling your mind into creating a false sense of spirituality?
Durki, I wonder what it is in your background that makes you hate sex so much. Sex is neither crude nor holy, sex is just a natural part of being human. As for it paling in comparison to the "pleasures arising out of ecstatic bliss-joy that is your own once you attune to your inner spiritual state", as you put it, I've been there, done that, and still thoroughly enjoy all sexual activities, especial the kinkier ones. From my experiences, the joys of the spirit and the joys of the flesh can coexist quite pleasantly. Furthermore, I wonder if by constant, forced suppression of sexual desire (holding your breath for a minute whenever you get horny!?), you aren't just fooling your mind into creating a false sense of spirituality?
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Original post: endor957
aside from molestation, rape, and incest, all sex is hollistic;)
aside from molestation, rape, and incest, all sex is hollistic;)
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
[QUOTE=endor957]aside from molestation, rape, and incest, all sex is hollistic;)[/QUOTE]
I guess youve never met my ex husband.:lol:
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[QUOTE=endor957]aside from molestation, rape, and incest, all sex is hollistic;)[/QUOTE]
I guess youve never met my ex husband.:lol:
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
[QUOTE=durki]Lust is lowly as compared to Love-Divine but it may arise on earth due to alcoholic & non-vegetarian intakes coupled with pornographic surroundings. [/QUOTE]
Oh get off it durki. Lust ROCKS.
Alcohol, meat and porn - sounds like a party to me.
I mean seriously - "was it spiritual for you, honey?"
Please.
I take your point but you take it too far.
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[QUOTE=durki]Lust is lowly as compared to Love-Divine but it may arise on earth due to alcoholic & non-vegetarian intakes coupled with pornographic surroundings. [/QUOTE]
Oh get off it durki. Lust ROCKS.
Alcohol, meat and porn - sounds like a party to me.
I mean seriously - "was it spiritual for you, honey?"
Please.
I take your point but you take it too far.
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Original post: Dunhill
Could be worse - "Honey, I would love to have sex, could you come back in a couple hours?"
Sounds like you had a fun birthday.
Patient : 'Doc my penis is orange'
Doctor : 'After a thorough examination I can find nothing wrong with you. What do you do?'
Patient : 'Watch porn and eat Cheetos.'
Ironically sex is like the word 'fuck'. It can be used in so many different ways - adjective, noun or verb like sex as clean, dirty, spiritual or primal. The only way for it to lose its meaning or impact is to micromanage it to the point of triviality. Sex is many things - it should not be demoted to becoming a grocery list.
DropAndRiver wrote:Who wants to hear this from their partner, "Honey, I would love to have sex, but our regional climate just isn't budging!"?
Could be worse - "Honey, I would love to have sex, could you come back in a couple hours?"
feranaja wrote: Alcohol, meat and porn - sounds like a party to me.
Sounds like you had a fun birthday.
Patient : 'Doc my penis is orange'
Doctor : 'After a thorough examination I can find nothing wrong with you. What do you do?'
Patient : 'Watch porn and eat Cheetos.'
I'm a man - I'm a teaser
I'm a man - Well I'm a virgin
I'm a man - I'm a one night stand
I'm a man - I'm a drug
I'm a man - Well I'm your slave
I'm a man - I'm a dream divine
And we make love together
Ironically sex is like the word 'fuck'. It can be used in so many different ways - adjective, noun or verb like sex as clean, dirty, spiritual or primal. The only way for it to lose its meaning or impact is to micromanage it to the point of triviality. Sex is many things - it should not be demoted to becoming a grocery list.
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Original post: durki
Baser bestial instincts of lusty appetite for human flesh of opposite gender should gradually give way to human love and finally to Divine Lofty Sublime Universal Love. Your selfish attitude towards sex invites you dread, disease and death whereas sacrificing attitude, because of positive interactions, brings you Consciousness-Enlightenment-Awareness-Immortality-Bliss-Joy-Existence-Immortality-Peace-Wisdom-Happiness-Healings-Energies-Ecstasy by divine laws that operate thus making you a Spiritual Sun radiating & exuding harmonious divine light.
Baser bestial instincts of lusty appetite for human flesh of opposite gender should gradually give way to human love and finally to Divine Lofty Sublime Universal Love. Your selfish attitude towards sex invites you dread, disease and death whereas sacrificing attitude, because of positive interactions, brings you Consciousness-Enlightenment-Awareness-Immortality-Bliss-Joy-Existence-Immortality-Peace-Wisdom-Happiness-Healings-Energies-Ecstasy by divine laws that operate thus making you a Spiritual Sun radiating & exuding harmonious divine light.
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Original post: DropAndRiver
I'm sorry, but I've had enough of Divine Love/Peace Happiness. I am stepping off the gravy train.
People need to stop treating lust like a disease. If I see an attractive guy and I want to do more than catch a movie with the man, that doesn't make me sick or perverse, it makes me American. Especially if he paid.
Lust is an instinct like flinching or screaming. You can't cure it, you can't avoid it, and you certainly can't fight it. It is counterproductive to even try, as the instability produced from restricting your lustful expression surpasses the amount of instability possibly caused by lust overwhelmingly. It is just like urinating; it isn't the prettiest thing in the world, but it isn't the ultimate evil, either.
Who cares if a feeling isn't love or 'divine'? What ever happened to just feeling something? There aren't sins, morals, or dirty acts....there is just stuff people do. Some things are nice, some not so nice, but that doesn't make them good or evil..... nothing makes anything anything....everything just is.
Where do people get off [pun...I know lol] thinking that just because someone accepts lust they are miserable or psychotic? Being your everyday manslut or your commonplace modest-wench doesn't make you a bad person or unhappy.... it makes you interesting.
I have yet to hear of people talking about how great there life is now that they have stopped having fun sex [lust is a KEY ingredient in any sexual encounter.... just read an erotic nove/short story to discover that one...] and introduced Little Baby Jesus and Friends and the Divine Light into their bedroom.
Am I the only one that doesn't want to be full of Holy Goodness? I've got all of the afterlife to be sexless, no need to fit it into my living schedule....
I'm sorry, but I've had enough of Divine Love/Peace Happiness. I am stepping off the gravy train.
People need to stop treating lust like a disease. If I see an attractive guy and I want to do more than catch a movie with the man, that doesn't make me sick or perverse, it makes me American. Especially if he paid.
Lust is an instinct like flinching or screaming. You can't cure it, you can't avoid it, and you certainly can't fight it. It is counterproductive to even try, as the instability produced from restricting your lustful expression surpasses the amount of instability possibly caused by lust overwhelmingly. It is just like urinating; it isn't the prettiest thing in the world, but it isn't the ultimate evil, either.
Who cares if a feeling isn't love or 'divine'? What ever happened to just feeling something? There aren't sins, morals, or dirty acts....there is just stuff people do. Some things are nice, some not so nice, but that doesn't make them good or evil..... nothing makes anything anything....everything just is.
Where do people get off [pun...I know lol] thinking that just because someone accepts lust they are miserable or psychotic? Being your everyday manslut or your commonplace modest-wench doesn't make you a bad person or unhappy.... it makes you interesting.
I have yet to hear of people talking about how great there life is now that they have stopped having fun sex [lust is a KEY ingredient in any sexual encounter.... just read an erotic nove/short story to discover that one...] and introduced Little Baby Jesus and Friends and the Divine Light into their bedroom.
Am I the only one that doesn't want to be full of Holy Goodness? I've got all of the afterlife to be sexless, no need to fit it into my living schedule....
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Original post: Rin Daemoko
[QUOTE=DropAndRiver]Am I the only one that doesn't want to be full of Holy Goodness? I've got all of the afterlife to be sexless, no need to fit it into my living schedule....[/QUOTE]
Daddy kicked my ass for trying to do just that.
[QUOTE=DropAndRiver]Am I the only one that doesn't want to be full of Holy Goodness? I've got all of the afterlife to be sexless, no need to fit it into my living schedule....[/QUOTE]
Daddy kicked my ass for trying to do just that.
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Original post: durki
I am not advocating repression of sex. Sex if repressed rebounds later with intensity many times more. All that I say is : transform, outgrow and sublimate it gradually at a slow natural pace. Change should be at an imperceptibly slow rate without any jerks. For a good after-life, you have to make preparation right now by taking proper steps. You can taste sex but remaining engrossed & pre-occupied with it all the time is not good. There is loss of energy & time in sexual pursuits to be considered and using the same for making positive karma & evolving into a better soul to be taken into account. Earth presents a tremendous opportunity to a soul either to utilize it positively or squander it negatively. On earth as on no other place in Universe, you can wrought huge shift in your consciousness either upwardly or downwardly.
I am not advocating repression of sex. Sex if repressed rebounds later with intensity many times more. All that I say is : transform, outgrow and sublimate it gradually at a slow natural pace. Change should be at an imperceptibly slow rate without any jerks. For a good after-life, you have to make preparation right now by taking proper steps. You can taste sex but remaining engrossed & pre-occupied with it all the time is not good. There is loss of energy & time in sexual pursuits to be considered and using the same for making positive karma & evolving into a better soul to be taken into account. Earth presents a tremendous opportunity to a soul either to utilize it positively or squander it negatively. On earth as on no other place in Universe, you can wrought huge shift in your consciousness either upwardly or downwardly.
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
Maybe sexuality IS a sacred path for some? I mean, side stepping the issue that its not really up to any of us to tell each other what to do - sexuality can be a path to Uniion and need not be sublimated into anything even by those of us on a Path. precoccupation with pleasure is limiting but I would say that about anything.
Why cant sexuality make "better souls" of us?
Again, Im sort of with you, durki and sort of not. I question that last statement too - how do we KNOW that there is on other place in the universe like us? Conceivably there culd be thousands.
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Maybe sexuality IS a sacred path for some? I mean, side stepping the issue that its not really up to any of us to tell each other what to do - sexuality can be a path to Uniion and need not be sublimated into anything even by those of us on a Path. precoccupation with pleasure is limiting but I would say that about anything.
Why cant sexuality make "better souls" of us?
Again, Im sort of with you, durki and sort of not. I question that last statement too - how do we KNOW that there is on other place in the universe like us? Conceivably there culd be thousands.
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Original post: Sushumma
And I doubt anyone in their right mind (i.e. not a suspect of xian brainwash), come old age, regrets that he/she got laid way too much in their earlier years.
Edit: this quote from Crowley's Liber Aleph seems appropriate:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aleph_8.htm
That's why you shouldn't put too much energy and time in sexual pursuits. That doesn't mean you should abstain from trying to get laid when an opportunity arises, however :-D. In a way the most "spiritually hygienic" sex would be with someone you don't know, and don't want to know. Of course sex can be a way of attainment also, when done on an impersonal level and with "awareness".There is loss of energy & time in sexual pursuits to be considered and using the same for making positive karma & evolving into a better soul to be taken into account.
And I doubt anyone in their right mind (i.e. not a suspect of xian brainwash), come old age, regrets that he/she got laid way too much in their earlier years.
Edit: this quote from Crowley's Liber Aleph seems appropriate:
The whole chapter is atLiber Aleph wrote:Subtler than the Serpent of Hermes, o my Son, is this Way of Restraint of Art, and thou shalt meet therein with the God Pan, and have him to thy Playmate. So shalt thou devise Comedy and Tragedy, as it were Settings for the Jewel of thy Will, to enhance the Beauty thereof, and to refine thy Pleasures. This is that which is written in "The Book of the Law": "... Wisdom says: be strong! Then canst thou bear more joy. Be not animal; refine thy rapture! If thou drink, drink by the eight and ninety rules of art: if thou love, exceed by delicacy; and if thou do aught joyous, let there be subtlety herein! But exceed! exceed!" Thus thou mayst even toy with hy tamed Devil of Sin, and use the Pain thereof to sharpen he taste of thy Meat, being Adult, and thy Tongue keen to the Olive, and cloyed by the Sweet, while a Child is opposite to his in his Preference; or as a skilled Match of Love aboundeth in Pinchings, Slappings, Bitings and the like, to intensify the Bout and to prolong it. But this is Risk and Peril unless thou be wholly Master, one in thy Will; for there is Poison in these dead Snakes, to destroy thee if thou lend hem of thy Life by so little as one Doubt of thyself, as a Seed of Division.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aleph_8.htm
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Original post: Rin Daemoko
[QUOTE=feranaja]Maybe sexuality IS a sacred path for some?[/QUOTE]For some definately, but not for all. Sexuality is definately not within the reach of my interests. Some people have wonderfully spiritual experiences through sex, others need spiritual experiences to try to atone/forget the sex. I'd just rather not touch sex at all - it's really not something I'm interested in ... unless it's with David Boreanaz. The only man on the face of the planet that I'd make an exception for.
[QUOTE=feranaja]Maybe sexuality IS a sacred path for some?[/QUOTE]For some definately, but not for all. Sexuality is definately not within the reach of my interests. Some people have wonderfully spiritual experiences through sex, others need spiritual experiences to try to atone/forget the sex. I'd just rather not touch sex at all - it's really not something I'm interested in ... unless it's with David Boreanaz. The only man on the face of the planet that I'd make an exception for.
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Original post: ~ Serenity ~
Rin, if you have it in you for one, you have it in you for others.
I dont believe sex has to be sacred or profane or ANYTHING, it simply is. Everyone defines it for themself. Every couple redefines it.
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Rin, if you have it in you for one, you have it in you for others.
I dont believe sex has to be sacred or profane or ANYTHING, it simply is. Everyone defines it for themself. Every couple redefines it.
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[QUOTE=feranaja]
I dont believe sex has to be sacred or profane or ANYTHING, it simply is. Everyone defines it for themself. Every couple redefines it.
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I agree, sex can be a lot of different things. Sometimes it feels like the highest act, where this merging happens and everything makes sense. Other times it's just fun. It seems like a bad idea to try and repress it, if you are uncomfortable with it. I know some hold with the theory that all energy is sex energy, but i don't know, sometimes i think sex is just a really intense route for life energy, but that life energy isn't necessarily tied up with sex. I think sex is important and can help you achieve some higher levels of consciousness, but i don't think it is the only way to hit those states (it's just the lots more fun route!). If you are comfortable with sex, but think that you need to abstain from it in order to get certain results, thatâ??s understandable. Itâ??s when you donâ??t have sex because youâ??re freaked out by it, that problems arise. Of course, having sex when youâ??re freaked out by it might not be such a good idea either! Hmm.
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I dont believe sex has to be sacred or profane or ANYTHING, it simply is. Everyone defines it for themself. Every couple redefines it.
fera
[/QUOTE] I agree, sex can be a lot of different things. Sometimes it feels like the highest act, where this merging happens and everything makes sense. Other times it's just fun. It seems like a bad idea to try and repress it, if you are uncomfortable with it. I know some hold with the theory that all energy is sex energy, but i don't know, sometimes i think sex is just a really intense route for life energy, but that life energy isn't necessarily tied up with sex. I think sex is important and can help you achieve some higher levels of consciousness, but i don't think it is the only way to hit those states (it's just the lots more fun route!). If you are comfortable with sex, but think that you need to abstain from it in order to get certain results, thatâ??s understandable. Itâ??s when you donâ??t have sex because youâ??re freaked out by it, that problems arise. Of course, having sex when youâ??re freaked out by it might not be such a good idea either! Hmm.
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Original post: Sushumma
Typically they think that all energy that can be spiritually directed stems from libido, not necessarily that having sex is a *good* thing. In fact it's often the opposite, for them having sex is often considered a "waste" of libido that should be transformed and purified. I think this is a bit of an exaggerated reaction - even if one has a bit less spiritual energy for the rest of the day after orgasm doesn't mean one should go without orgasming for several weeks, because the energy typically returns after one night's sleep (IMVHO).I know some hold with the theory that all energy is sex energy, but i don't know, sometimes i think sex is just a really intense route for life energy, but that life energy isn't necessarily tied up with sex. I think sex is important and can help you achieve some higher levels of consciousness, but i don't think it is the only way to hit those states (it's just the lots more fun route!).
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Original post: durki
Earth is unique & exclusive among all physical planets not only in our Milky Way Galaxy but whole of physical cosmos. Even astral beings aspire for earthly sex. When astral beings are intent on physical sex, they gravitate towards earth. But sex is a double-edged weapon which can harm you as well as do good. It should be harnessed keeping laws of Nature & Spirit in mind. For example, incest takes you downhill.
Earth is unique & exclusive among all physical planets not only in our Milky Way Galaxy but whole of physical cosmos. Even astral beings aspire for earthly sex. When astral beings are intent on physical sex, they gravitate towards earth. But sex is a double-edged weapon which can harm you as well as do good. It should be harnessed keeping laws of Nature & Spirit in mind. For example, incest takes you downhill.