Redefining Lux Lucis
Redefining Lux Lucis
I would like to define Luciferianism in the non-theistic sense and hopefully prompt a little discussion with it if anyone is interested.
"The significant symbol of wisdom given to us by research is what I refer to as Lucifer, the bringer of light. Everybody is searching for perception; wisdom is the child of Lucifer." - Michael Ford
The Chaldean astrologers, the Egyptian priests, the Indian Brahmans; they are all children of Lucifer.
-From Lucifer-Gnosis, Rudolph Steiner.
Lucifer stands on the threshold of Dawn and Dusk. The bringer of light, symbol of Thelemic strength and divine wisdom emerges. The age of Lucifer is the uprising of what Blavatsky termed "Phosphorus", the cosmic force of illumination and light. Lucifer is the force of Air, while Satan the dual and corrupted form of the light bringer is of active fire. This duality is the changeable essence of progression and evolution. Lucifer emerges by name as the Roman "bringer of light", Lucem Fero..the carrier of the torch.
Lucifer stands as the fountain head of Astral Magick; (i.e., Astral Projection, Dream Control, etc.) Lucifer is balance in the instance of both Shadow and Light, Blood Red and Jet Black. Lucifer is the color of an awakened and enlightened mind. The Psyche which is open for magical inspiration.
Blavatsky understood the significance of balance within the individual, to ascend the individual from the beast like qualities so inherent within our subconscious. Blavatsky wrote "Thus it stands proven that Satan, or the red Fiery Dragon, the "Lord of Phosphorus" and Lucifer, or "Light bearer" is in us"
Black Magic is the focus of making the Psyche immortal, surviving Earth bound after death. Luciferic Magick is the focus of Astral projection and Holy Magick. Ascension is the primary goal, To rise towards Godhead
Aleister Crowley gave us the modern synthesis and foundation of Luciferian thought. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will". Two statements which clearly set in motion the ascension of the seeking individual towards Godhead. In his poem, "Hymn to Lucifer" Crowley presents the bringer of light in a Thelemic aspect. No longer shall man be subservient to a religion which would destroy your foundation and right of personal choice.
Dogma is also a trap which can lead towards spiritual stagnation. Growth is necessary through the freedom of an open being that through will power and focus can change take hold and run its natural course.
The Luciferian individual is at heart a predator, however balancing action and thought with compassion and tolerance when such emotions are heartfelt. A Thelemic individual is by definition free to decide the proper course of which his or her life would flow. Often, clubs, orders and other thought trapping devices will trick the individual into accepting a code and "uniformities" of like minds.
Those who awaken this individual light are blessed unto ourselves. Self-Godhood is the step towards spiritual immortality. Those who seek the platform of Adept in the Magickial Quest will inadvertently perceive the basis of the balance of light and darkness. The Angelic and the Demonic shall be united, Chaos will follow form and such is the genetic and psychic make up of the Adept.
Lucifer stands for the balance of flesh and spirit. The ego or "I", constantly changing must continue to consciously manifest in a positive manner.
As Aleister Crowley pointed out in the article entitled:
"The Initiated Interpretation of Ceremonial Magic" (Published in The Goetia): "The spirits of the Goetia are portions of the human brain. Their seals therefore represent (Mr. Spencer's projected cube) method of stimulating or regulating those particular spots (through the Eye).
(a) The names of God are vibrations calculated to establish control over the human brain. (Establishment of the functions relative to the subtle world.)
(b) Control over the brain in detail. (Rank or type of the Spirit.)
(c) Control of one special portion (Name of the spirit)."
Control is the map of empowerment and Ascension. Once direction is assumed and confirmed, can such begin to take place in association with progression and evolution? This subtle point is based around the legend of Lucifer itself.
I hope some of you find this useful in your evolution of spirit
Em Hotep,
"The significant symbol of wisdom given to us by research is what I refer to as Lucifer, the bringer of light. Everybody is searching for perception; wisdom is the child of Lucifer." - Michael Ford
The Chaldean astrologers, the Egyptian priests, the Indian Brahmans; they are all children of Lucifer.
-From Lucifer-Gnosis, Rudolph Steiner.
Lucifer stands on the threshold of Dawn and Dusk. The bringer of light, symbol of Thelemic strength and divine wisdom emerges. The age of Lucifer is the uprising of what Blavatsky termed "Phosphorus", the cosmic force of illumination and light. Lucifer is the force of Air, while Satan the dual and corrupted form of the light bringer is of active fire. This duality is the changeable essence of progression and evolution. Lucifer emerges by name as the Roman "bringer of light", Lucem Fero..the carrier of the torch.
Lucifer stands as the fountain head of Astral Magick; (i.e., Astral Projection, Dream Control, etc.) Lucifer is balance in the instance of both Shadow and Light, Blood Red and Jet Black. Lucifer is the color of an awakened and enlightened mind. The Psyche which is open for magical inspiration.
Blavatsky understood the significance of balance within the individual, to ascend the individual from the beast like qualities so inherent within our subconscious. Blavatsky wrote "Thus it stands proven that Satan, or the red Fiery Dragon, the "Lord of Phosphorus" and Lucifer, or "Light bearer" is in us"
Black Magic is the focus of making the Psyche immortal, surviving Earth bound after death. Luciferic Magick is the focus of Astral projection and Holy Magick. Ascension is the primary goal, To rise towards Godhead
Aleister Crowley gave us the modern synthesis and foundation of Luciferian thought. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will". Two statements which clearly set in motion the ascension of the seeking individual towards Godhead. In his poem, "Hymn to Lucifer" Crowley presents the bringer of light in a Thelemic aspect. No longer shall man be subservient to a religion which would destroy your foundation and right of personal choice.
Dogma is also a trap which can lead towards spiritual stagnation. Growth is necessary through the freedom of an open being that through will power and focus can change take hold and run its natural course.
The Luciferian individual is at heart a predator, however balancing action and thought with compassion and tolerance when such emotions are heartfelt. A Thelemic individual is by definition free to decide the proper course of which his or her life would flow. Often, clubs, orders and other thought trapping devices will trick the individual into accepting a code and "uniformities" of like minds.
Those who awaken this individual light are blessed unto ourselves. Self-Godhood is the step towards spiritual immortality. Those who seek the platform of Adept in the Magickial Quest will inadvertently perceive the basis of the balance of light and darkness. The Angelic and the Demonic shall be united, Chaos will follow form and such is the genetic and psychic make up of the Adept.
Lucifer stands for the balance of flesh and spirit. The ego or "I", constantly changing must continue to consciously manifest in a positive manner.
As Aleister Crowley pointed out in the article entitled:
"The Initiated Interpretation of Ceremonial Magic" (Published in The Goetia): "The spirits of the Goetia are portions of the human brain. Their seals therefore represent (Mr. Spencer's projected cube) method of stimulating or regulating those particular spots (through the Eye).
(a) The names of God are vibrations calculated to establish control over the human brain. (Establishment of the functions relative to the subtle world.)
(b) Control over the brain in detail. (Rank or type of the Spirit.)
(c) Control of one special portion (Name of the spirit)."
Control is the map of empowerment and Ascension. Once direction is assumed and confirmed, can such begin to take place in association with progression and evolution? This subtle point is based around the legend of Lucifer itself.
I hope some of you find this useful in your evolution of spirit
Em Hotep,
Redefining Lux Lucis
I can only speak as a 'quasi-theist', since I do act under the mentoring of a deity-like being. But my relationship with my mentor is a very 'non-religious' one, and in practice, I do think and act much like an atheist.
I'm surprised by the depth of similarity between your perspective and mine Ankhhape.
In the first bit, about the origins of words/names like lucifer, I could debate a bit, but it would serve no purpose since that would not really be relevant to the thrust of what you're trying to say. And I very much agree with the thrust of what you're trying to say.
I would go so far as to say that you have very neatly outlined a significant chunk of the foundational thinking in my own path. I do not, strictly speaking, call myself by the title 'luciferian' (or 'satanist' for that matter), but I am a 'lefty' and oriented towards the great work.
When saying that satan, or lucifer is within us, ie- a non-theistic take on them, I tend to agree. But perhaps not for the reasons intended. In my opinion, and in older historical writing, it is clear that 'lucifer' is not a name, but a title, an adjective which could apply to any who act as enlightener. So in the solo, nontheist path, one could very well serve as lucifer to oneself. I realize, from your later references to the goetics, that you mean it slightly differently, that you are implying that lucifer and/or satan, while seeming to be entity/deity-like, are actually manifestations of parts of our own psyche. But the end result in effect is pretty similar.
I agree with the merging of light and dark, very much so. My mentor has stressed to me, that the measure of a being's greatness is in the 'vastness' of the range of their harmonized nature, not in the purity of a particular nature. So in other words, anything pure light or pure dark or pure any shade of gray, or purple polkadots... is inferior to a being which is at once a vast expanse of states of being, ranging from dark to light, embodying both. In fact that the nearer a being is to embodying 'all', the greater that being. And so the striving towards a pure state (undertaken frequently by people and other beings) regardless of what flavor of pure state, is in fact the trademark of a limited being, not a great one.
I myself came from a very whitey-lighty background, and the first thing my mentor did was take me on a tour of my inner dark. to bring me to the point of reveling in it. And then to ease off and step towards a broader sense of self, harmonizing elements which to the outside observer might seem like a gross incongruity. Pushing towards a vast and greatly varied nature, united under a common and fully representational will, without internal conflict or indecision. This incidentally goes a long way towards unlocking doorways between the subconscious and the conscious.
Crowley, I used to not think highly of him, years ago. but he had grown on me quite a bit, once i came to understand him better and read between the lines a bit. I would agree, that he has some worthwhile content to add to a path such as we're discussing, to put it mildly.
And dogma... quite agree. Therein my chaote tendencies. I'd take it a step further though, and understand that nearly all states of consciousness carry with them a great load of preconception and distortion, so i view 'dogma' in a broad sense to even be something which arises within the self's psyche, not just in external orders or groups.
I agree that orders and clubs can tend to shoehorn the mind into a uniformity, and that this can be detrimental to the serious magician.
A predator at heart? hmmm. I would put it differently. I would say that within the sum total of that which I loosely call 'self', there is a "predator", among many other things.
I would say that self-godhood is more than a step towards spiritual immortality... it fully achieves it, and so very much more. I have some interesting thoughts on godhood, if you're interested and its not too off topic.
I am not a huge fan of the western esoteric tradition's sensibilities regarding ceremonial magick.
I am curious though, given your views, for an in depth understanding of how you regard the HGA? and the role of HGA in any of this?
Some parting thoughts, relevant to this discussion:
What is godhood?
How does one achieve godhood specifically?
If this is a non-theistic approach to luciferianism, then how does that work with the striving to become a god? I am assuming you're advocating a self/inward oriented left hand path, devoid of any stereotypical deity-relationship, but not denying the existence of deities, since you're striving to become one? correct me if i'm putting words in your mouth, I am just curious about that facet of your thinking.
again, i look forward to future conversation in this thread
I'm surprised by the depth of similarity between your perspective and mine Ankhhape.
In the first bit, about the origins of words/names like lucifer, I could debate a bit, but it would serve no purpose since that would not really be relevant to the thrust of what you're trying to say. And I very much agree with the thrust of what you're trying to say.
I would go so far as to say that you have very neatly outlined a significant chunk of the foundational thinking in my own path. I do not, strictly speaking, call myself by the title 'luciferian' (or 'satanist' for that matter), but I am a 'lefty' and oriented towards the great work.
When saying that satan, or lucifer is within us, ie- a non-theistic take on them, I tend to agree. But perhaps not for the reasons intended. In my opinion, and in older historical writing, it is clear that 'lucifer' is not a name, but a title, an adjective which could apply to any who act as enlightener. So in the solo, nontheist path, one could very well serve as lucifer to oneself. I realize, from your later references to the goetics, that you mean it slightly differently, that you are implying that lucifer and/or satan, while seeming to be entity/deity-like, are actually manifestations of parts of our own psyche. But the end result in effect is pretty similar.
I agree with the merging of light and dark, very much so. My mentor has stressed to me, that the measure of a being's greatness is in the 'vastness' of the range of their harmonized nature, not in the purity of a particular nature. So in other words, anything pure light or pure dark or pure any shade of gray, or purple polkadots... is inferior to a being which is at once a vast expanse of states of being, ranging from dark to light, embodying both. In fact that the nearer a being is to embodying 'all', the greater that being. And so the striving towards a pure state (undertaken frequently by people and other beings) regardless of what flavor of pure state, is in fact the trademark of a limited being, not a great one.
I myself came from a very whitey-lighty background, and the first thing my mentor did was take me on a tour of my inner dark. to bring me to the point of reveling in it. And then to ease off and step towards a broader sense of self, harmonizing elements which to the outside observer might seem like a gross incongruity. Pushing towards a vast and greatly varied nature, united under a common and fully representational will, without internal conflict or indecision. This incidentally goes a long way towards unlocking doorways between the subconscious and the conscious.
Crowley, I used to not think highly of him, years ago. but he had grown on me quite a bit, once i came to understand him better and read between the lines a bit. I would agree, that he has some worthwhile content to add to a path such as we're discussing, to put it mildly.
And dogma... quite agree. Therein my chaote tendencies. I'd take it a step further though, and understand that nearly all states of consciousness carry with them a great load of preconception and distortion, so i view 'dogma' in a broad sense to even be something which arises within the self's psyche, not just in external orders or groups.
I agree that orders and clubs can tend to shoehorn the mind into a uniformity, and that this can be detrimental to the serious magician.
A predator at heart? hmmm. I would put it differently. I would say that within the sum total of that which I loosely call 'self', there is a "predator", among many other things.
I would say that self-godhood is more than a step towards spiritual immortality... it fully achieves it, and so very much more. I have some interesting thoughts on godhood, if you're interested and its not too off topic.
I am not a huge fan of the western esoteric tradition's sensibilities regarding ceremonial magick.
I am curious though, given your views, for an in depth understanding of how you regard the HGA? and the role of HGA in any of this?
Some parting thoughts, relevant to this discussion:
What is godhood?
How does one achieve godhood specifically?
If this is a non-theistic approach to luciferianism, then how does that work with the striving to become a god? I am assuming you're advocating a self/inward oriented left hand path, devoid of any stereotypical deity-relationship, but not denying the existence of deities, since you're striving to become one? correct me if i'm putting words in your mouth, I am just curious about that facet of your thinking.
again, i look forward to future conversation in this thread


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Kath, I do believe you summed up my discourse better than I could have . . . thank you.
Whoever your mentor is and whatever path you are following, it seems to be a very good path.
Your question of Godhood & HGA I would explain off as Higher Consciousness. I see deities as forms of Universal Consciousness and principles of our Universe.
When you look at the ancient Earth religions it was Nature's elements being worshiped, demonology; daimons are nothing more than spirit energies and so forth, I think you get where I'm going.
We have a daimon / higher spirit energy that was created in the Universe and we have lost our way and become anchored to this physical plane . . . a balanced path will return us home.
Whoever your mentor is and whatever path you are following, it seems to be a very good path.
Your question of Godhood & HGA I would explain off as Higher Consciousness. I see deities as forms of Universal Consciousness and principles of our Universe.
When you look at the ancient Earth religions it was Nature's elements being worshiped, demonology; daimons are nothing more than spirit energies and so forth, I think you get where I'm going.
We have a daimon / higher spirit energy that was created in the Universe and we have lost our way and become anchored to this physical plane . . . a balanced path will return us home.
Redefining Lux Lucis
I am curious about the method by which you envision one accomplishing the great work? Don't be afraid to be speculative, the only people who are qualified to speak as an 'expert' are already gods incarnate and won't likely be loitering around offering input here, hehe. So we're all speaking speculatively I think, regardless of how confident or un-confident we are.
I'm gonna ramble about godhood, cuz it might be of relevance... I take the following to be true, but I only offer it as food for thought.
My take on godhood is sort of a blend of ancient and eastern ideology. Actually it doesn't come from either of these, it comes from my mentor, but I have noticed after the fact, that some of her comments & concepts do align with ideas which can be found in religion/philosophy/etc.
My mentor describes 'divinity' as a sort of absolute oneness with the sum whole of all existence in the multiverse. However, while she describes this absolute state as being 'infinte', she also describes it as being 'infinitely depersonalizing'... that a shift in consciousness state to 'total oneness' is very much like the eastern notion of loss of ego/self, nirvana, etc. According to her, if a living person achieved this, as an absolute state, they'd essentially go brain dead, as local individuation would evaporate. At the other end of the spectrum is consciousness in the state of the "finite self", occupying just a single point in an infinite multiverse. This is best exemplified by people, and animals to a degree. She describes a 'god' or 'deity' as a being with one foot in each of these two extreme states. Simultaneously finite, and infinite.
Many in eastern religions would regard this as an incomplete journey, since they idolize the infinite aspect. My mentor views it differently, that the blend of both extremes is 'greater' than either single extreme. Much the same sort of sentiment that she has about light & dark. In this case applied in such a way that she would argue that one who is both finite and infinite, is greater in nature than one who is only infinite, or one who is only finite.
She would say that all 'true gods' are "one" at the infinite end of their existence, while each may delineate into an individual personality at the finite end of their existence. Bearing in mind, that her definition of a 'true god' is rather different than the things most people worship in most religions. She views iconographic, elemental, and egregoric 'entities' created by mankind and their religions as not really being 'gods', but man-made constructs. Actually she regards an individual skilled magus as a 'greater being' than a man-made deity like zeus, etc. She's not a tremendous fan of religion in general, or religious behavior/ideology. It's ironic perhaps, but the only deity I really know, has a view of human religion not unlike Karl Marx's.
The reason I asked about the HGA, is because my 'mentor' or deity, or guide, or nonphysical lover, or protector, or parent, or whatever the hell term you feel fits (personally, i don't find any term to be 'quite right'), could be regarded as an HGA (in the sense of a 'higher self'). If you imagine yourself to have a higher self, and for that higher self to essentially be a 'bodhisattva', a god in the buddhist sense... that's kinda like her. Except that she would say that any infinite being, is technically *anyone's* higher self, everyone's higher self. By the same token that all infinite beings are essentially 'one' at the infinite aspect of their existence.
So my view of my higher self, HGA, etc, is essentially a 'god' (a true-god, not a religion-god).
Which, when we turn our attention to the great work, becomes an item of particular interest i think...
I'm gonna ramble about godhood, cuz it might be of relevance... I take the following to be true, but I only offer it as food for thought.
My take on godhood is sort of a blend of ancient and eastern ideology. Actually it doesn't come from either of these, it comes from my mentor, but I have noticed after the fact, that some of her comments & concepts do align with ideas which can be found in religion/philosophy/etc.
My mentor describes 'divinity' as a sort of absolute oneness with the sum whole of all existence in the multiverse. However, while she describes this absolute state as being 'infinte', she also describes it as being 'infinitely depersonalizing'... that a shift in consciousness state to 'total oneness' is very much like the eastern notion of loss of ego/self, nirvana, etc. According to her, if a living person achieved this, as an absolute state, they'd essentially go brain dead, as local individuation would evaporate. At the other end of the spectrum is consciousness in the state of the "finite self", occupying just a single point in an infinite multiverse. This is best exemplified by people, and animals to a degree. She describes a 'god' or 'deity' as a being with one foot in each of these two extreme states. Simultaneously finite, and infinite.
Many in eastern religions would regard this as an incomplete journey, since they idolize the infinite aspect. My mentor views it differently, that the blend of both extremes is 'greater' than either single extreme. Much the same sort of sentiment that she has about light & dark. In this case applied in such a way that she would argue that one who is both finite and infinite, is greater in nature than one who is only infinite, or one who is only finite.
She would say that all 'true gods' are "one" at the infinite end of their existence, while each may delineate into an individual personality at the finite end of their existence. Bearing in mind, that her definition of a 'true god' is rather different than the things most people worship in most religions. She views iconographic, elemental, and egregoric 'entities' created by mankind and their religions as not really being 'gods', but man-made constructs. Actually she regards an individual skilled magus as a 'greater being' than a man-made deity like zeus, etc. She's not a tremendous fan of religion in general, or religious behavior/ideology. It's ironic perhaps, but the only deity I really know, has a view of human religion not unlike Karl Marx's.
The reason I asked about the HGA, is because my 'mentor' or deity, or guide, or nonphysical lover, or protector, or parent, or whatever the hell term you feel fits (personally, i don't find any term to be 'quite right'), could be regarded as an HGA (in the sense of a 'higher self'). If you imagine yourself to have a higher self, and for that higher self to essentially be a 'bodhisattva', a god in the buddhist sense... that's kinda like her. Except that she would say that any infinite being, is technically *anyone's* higher self, everyone's higher self. By the same token that all infinite beings are essentially 'one' at the infinite aspect of their existence.
So my view of my higher self, HGA, etc, is essentially a 'god' (a true-god, not a religion-god).
Which, when we turn our attention to the great work, becomes an item of particular interest i think...

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The Shadowing Forth of Lucifer occurs once the self absorbs and forgets the spirit.The spirit is forgot and sunk deep within the subconscious called the abyss.Kath wrote:I am curious about the method by which you envision one accomplishing the great work?
The Luciferian will seek the path of self-discipline and strength through carefully focused Will and the application towards struggle and pain, overcoming the challenges to gain wisdom of limits and advancements of the mind.
We use body and mind discipline to achieve this strength.
The difference is we use these tools not from a Right Hand Path perspective, but from a Left Hand Path approach to achieve the goals of transformation.
Within the Luciferian Doctrines of predatory spirituality, the nature of the Adept is to master this world in which we live in.
Achieving Self-Deification is somewhat more complex, suffice to say that in an allegorical view The KEY is the subconscious – Left Hand Alchemy – Adversarial Path of Luciferian Development
Once the Adept has made his way up the Tree of Life he must enter Da'ath
Da'ath is guarded by Choronzon
One must go beyond the gates of Choronzon into Da’ath in order to begin to understand first, the self and secondly, the exterior universe.
Once one has crossed the Abyss it is then possible to begin controlling and shaping his own individual destiny based on the discovery of the True Will or Holy Guardian.
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But is not the true will something more suited for Right Hand Path than Left Hand Path. True will speaks of a true, inner will, the will of the soul so to speak. But I have always been more concerned with cultivating my own will, deciding what I want and figuring out how to get it. Not some hidden, obscure will of the soul, but my will here and now, my practical will, the one I and only I decide over.
*Learn magic for it is the only truth of this reality, become magic and you will become the essence of that truth--Ars Magica
*Cats are magical, the more you pet them the longer you both live--Unknown
*The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper--Eden Phillpotts
*Cats are magical, the more you pet them the longer you both live--Unknown
*The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper--Eden Phillpotts
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My perspective is that annihilation of ego is a form of annihilation of the soul,or part of it,at least,if you pathwalk 'the Wyrd ways of Ygg'[my home paradigm is Northern].It's the part of attachment to our own self identity and others perceptions of such that we must shed,to truly 'be' in the infinite that is now. In the formless spaces beyond Da'ath[Nastrond?] there is no other than the inner will: it is born there/here.It is primal beyond words.[Choranzon/Zaranzon?]There is no distraction and no respite,it's fly or fall,shine or burn time.Not doing but being and in such an intensity that such considerations as names/individual identity become meaningless:there are no mirrors and there is no place to hide.You are the light at the end of the tunnel and the darkness within it,simultaneously.
I am all and nothing.I just AM.
Is this a kind of Apotheosis of the Self?I'm mixing metaphors I think,above,but I struggle sometimes to find the right terms of description.
I am all and nothing.I just AM.
Is this a kind of Apotheosis of the Self?I'm mixing metaphors I think,above,but I struggle sometimes to find the right terms of description.
"He lived his words, spoke his own actions and his story and the story of the world ran parallel."
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.
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Prometheus - Lucifer
Prometheus serves as a symbol for those who reject the reigning theistic orthodoxies and who criticize the temptation of men and women to deify and worship the dark unknown in an effort to appease their fears of death. Prometheus is also a symbol for those who wish to use human achievements, especially technology, to improve the human condition and are willing to shape nature in order to fulfill our needs and purposes. (Prometheus Unbound)
His is a rebellion against a cruel and unjust god that would deny humanity a rightful place at the pinnacle of created nature, just as the God of Genesis is also cruel and thoughtless in exactly the same manner, where he would essentially shackle Adam and Eve to a womb like Eden and deny them growth and potentiality, keeping them childlike slaves to answer to his whims, supernaturally indentured servants for eternity, a position that is preposterous and unacceptable because they did eat of the Tree and were thrown into the fields of time and space, out of the infant womb, and into the world of experience and being, of becoming.
Prometheus demonstrates unconditional love toward the race, and if Lucifer's motives can not easily be interpreted as love based, they are at least altruistic in the sense of pointing Adam and Eve toward the path of self-freedom, and both Prometheus and Lucifer were punished for their actions: Lucifer is cursed by God above all beasts of the field, condemned to slink eternally upon his belly and eat dust, while Prometheus, at the order of Zeus, was shackled by Hephaestus, smith of the gods, to a rocky crag high in the Caucasus mountains, crucified upon a stone where a great eagle sent daily by Zeus would tear out his liver rejuvenated during the night. He is the archetypal savior figure, like Christ, both demigods, dully punished and tortured by God for the "salvation" of man.
Prometheus serves as a symbol for those who reject the reigning theistic orthodoxies and who criticize the temptation of men and women to deify and worship the dark unknown in an effort to appease their fears of death. Prometheus is also a symbol for those who wish to use human achievements, especially technology, to improve the human condition and are willing to shape nature in order to fulfill our needs and purposes. (Prometheus Unbound)
His is a rebellion against a cruel and unjust god that would deny humanity a rightful place at the pinnacle of created nature, just as the God of Genesis is also cruel and thoughtless in exactly the same manner, where he would essentially shackle Adam and Eve to a womb like Eden and deny them growth and potentiality, keeping them childlike slaves to answer to his whims, supernaturally indentured servants for eternity, a position that is preposterous and unacceptable because they did eat of the Tree and were thrown into the fields of time and space, out of the infant womb, and into the world of experience and being, of becoming.
Prometheus demonstrates unconditional love toward the race, and if Lucifer's motives can not easily be interpreted as love based, they are at least altruistic in the sense of pointing Adam and Eve toward the path of self-freedom, and both Prometheus and Lucifer were punished for their actions: Lucifer is cursed by God above all beasts of the field, condemned to slink eternally upon his belly and eat dust, while Prometheus, at the order of Zeus, was shackled by Hephaestus, smith of the gods, to a rocky crag high in the Caucasus mountains, crucified upon a stone where a great eagle sent daily by Zeus would tear out his liver rejuvenated during the night. He is the archetypal savior figure, like Christ, both demigods, dully punished and tortured by God for the "salvation" of man.
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Redefining Lux Lucis
The gift of Forethought - Prometheus.Chiron and Herakles both play a part in his salvation,don't they? I have always been fond of Prometheus' story,his courage of conviction and his fortitude under terrible duress,impressed upon my mind at a young age.Parallel - The Binding of Loki?
A slight digression below,but it's relevant somehow.I run with connections,even the tenous ones,I always look laterally,before I look forward.Lol.
I have already admitted my Astronomical/Astrological interests and the discovery of Chiron [comet/planetoid: jury is out still,lol] in 1977 is synchronous in some ways with the rising of Chaos magick,which is interesting to me in relation to Prometheus,mythically,allegorically and psychologically speaking.Chrions's symbol is a key,intriguingly enough.
The 70's :the decade of Nuclear proliferation,Cold War Real Politik,Punk rock and generation X,riots and general public discontent,as I recall it anyway.Interesting times.1977 was a benchmark year for me.Anarchy in the Uk,well ok, there's nothing better to do: let's riot.Our parents dreams had become our conscious nightmares.It was time to wake up.
Chiron unbound Prometheus,Macrocosmically: the World started to change.Microcosmically:the Fire inside us was released too.
Herakles and the Eagle,well,yep the correspondances and paralllels are there too,but the digging is deeper to find this,more subtle.
"The Luciferian individual is at heart a predator, however balancing action and thought with compassion and tolerance when such emotions are heartfelt."
Sounds like an unomfortably accurate description of me.Lol,but seriously.
A slight digression below,but it's relevant somehow.I run with connections,even the tenous ones,I always look laterally,before I look forward.Lol.
I have already admitted my Astronomical/Astrological interests and the discovery of Chiron [comet/planetoid: jury is out still,lol] in 1977 is synchronous in some ways with the rising of Chaos magick,which is interesting to me in relation to Prometheus,mythically,allegorically and psychologically speaking.Chrions's symbol is a key,intriguingly enough.
The 70's :the decade of Nuclear proliferation,Cold War Real Politik,Punk rock and generation X,riots and general public discontent,as I recall it anyway.Interesting times.1977 was a benchmark year for me.Anarchy in the Uk,well ok, there's nothing better to do: let's riot.Our parents dreams had become our conscious nightmares.It was time to wake up.
Chiron unbound Prometheus,Macrocosmically: the World started to change.Microcosmically:the Fire inside us was released too.
Herakles and the Eagle,well,yep the correspondances and paralllels are there too,but the digging is deeper to find this,more subtle.
"The Luciferian individual is at heart a predator, however balancing action and thought with compassion and tolerance when such emotions are heartfelt."
Sounds like an unomfortably accurate description of me.Lol,but seriously.
"He lived his words, spoke his own actions and his story and the story of the world ran parallel."
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.
Redefining Lux Lucis
Thanks Nahemah,
Lucifer as Venus
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3).
Metaphorically, the word Lucifer is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time;
To the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28)
Finally, to Jesus Christ himself (II Petr. 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star.
In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen
Horus as Morningstar
Horus has typically been identified with the sun. Other scholars have advanced arguments that the god is to be identified with the planet Venus; with the star Sirius; and with the amorphous sky.
The cult of Horus is prominent already in predynastic times (Writing itself is first attested in Egypt during the Predynastic Period, ca. 3200 BCE)
Rulers at Nekhen, for example, worshipped the falcon-god prior to the unification of Egypt. In the Early Dynastic Period (ca. 3000-2600 BCE), Horus is explicitly identified as a star.
This much is evident from the fact that royal domains were named after the astral god.
The domain established by Anedjib was called Ór-sbÃ¥-t, “Horus, star of the corporation (of gods).â€
Lucifer as Venus
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3).
Metaphorically, the word Lucifer is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time;
To the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28)
Finally, to Jesus Christ himself (II Petr. 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star.
In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen
Horus as Morningstar
Horus has typically been identified with the sun. Other scholars have advanced arguments that the god is to be identified with the planet Venus; with the star Sirius; and with the amorphous sky.
The cult of Horus is prominent already in predynastic times (Writing itself is first attested in Egypt during the Predynastic Period, ca. 3200 BCE)
Rulers at Nekhen, for example, worshipped the falcon-god prior to the unification of Egypt. In the Early Dynastic Period (ca. 3000-2600 BCE), Horus is explicitly identified as a star.
This much is evident from the fact that royal domains were named after the astral god.
The domain established by Anedjib was called Ór-sbÃ¥-t, “Horus, star of the corporation (of gods).â€