Thelema

Ashley challis · Post by **Ashley challis** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:52 pm

HI,

I only heard about this yesturday and all I seemed to find was information on dying gods also the idea about the

crowned child. Are there any good books.

Ashley.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:19 pm

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/search ... rch=Submit

This is a search I just did,if you hit the search feature [it's on the top red bar heading of the forum index] and go to advanced search,plug in a keyword,it should give a lot of results.The old OF.com archive is here and there is a wealth of information there.

I hope this helps,25 pages of info is a lot though,but there are good beginner topics and recommendations for books,pdfs etc.also.

Blythe A. Blanche · Post by **Blythe A. Blanche** » Sun May 16, 2010 2:15 pm

Blythe A. Blanche · Post by **Blythe A. Blanche** » Sun May 16, 2010 4:50 pm

I had a really long, well-written reply, which I tried to edit and accidentally deleted. Is there any way to get it back?

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Mon May 17, 2010 12:45 am

Probably not,that has happened to a few other folk too.

I saw your post earlier it was detailed and thorough.Sorry you lost it.

melete · Post by **melete** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:53 am

Thelema is the study of the right hand path, to give an idea as to why its under the Luciferian (left hand path) section of the forums.

Thelema is the greek word for Will. Thelemites utilize their ultimate Will (not to be confused with willpower) to enact and shift the world and universe around them. It is a ceremonial magick philosophy based on the writings of Aleister Crowley. Much of its central themes include sex magick, gnosticism, Will working, ceremonial workings, kaballah, and the egyptian gods under Khemeticism. The orders under Thelema (Ordo Templii Orientis, Golden Dawn and Silver Star) are each under different grades per initiation. Each thelemite is required to find ways to interpret how they perceive the world and work within it; some choose yoga, others choose different deities than egyptian, etc. It also has a lot of bent towards hermeticism, alchemy, math and other old practices which blend science and mysticism.

Aleister Crowley's main "joke" throughout the libers comes from how much it is actually talking about sex. Much of the words are hidden under such things as talking about blood, tinctures and the like. Due to being highly ritualistic, memorization is required along with intensive reading. If you decide to take this path, just keep an open mind and scrutinize everything.

Blythe A. Blanche · Post by **Blythe A. Blanche** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:48 pm

Something you have to keep in mind as you read through the sex-filled writings is what sex is actually symbolic of, on the spiritual level. It is the uniting of masculine and feminine principles â€” Nuit and Hadit, Babalon and Therion, etc. Yes, many of the terms employed by A.C. are metaphorical of sex, but the sexual meanings are symbolic of higher ends than just a nice orgasm.

melete · Post by **melete** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:43 am

Blythe is right on this idea, although be wary of some members in the OTO who might have joined for less than higher reasons. Although this sort of thing is usually weeded out rather quickly, its still a good thing to be on your guard just like with anywhere.

Fra.Accendo · Post by **Fra.Accendo** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:34 pm

melete wrote:Thelema is the study of the right hand path, to give an idea as to why its under the Luciferian (left hand path) section of the forums.

Thelema is the greek word for Will. Thelemites utilize their ultimate Will (not to be confused with willpower) to enact and shift the world and universe around them. It is a ceremonial magick philosophy based on the writings of Aleister Crowley. Much of its central themes include sex magick, gnosticism, Will working, ceremonial workings, kaballah, and the egyptian gods under Khemeticism. The orders under Thelema (Ordo Templii Orientis, Golden Dawn and Silver Star) are each under different grades per initiation. Each thelemite is required to find ways to interpret how they perceive the world and work within it; some choose yoga, others choose different deities than egyptian, etc. It also has a lot of bent towards hermeticism, alchemy, math and other old practices which blend science and mysticism.

As to the Golden Dawn being under any kind of Thelemic control is to say that the Jewish faith is under the control of the Catholic Church. The Golden Dawn was one of the roots upon which Frater Perdurabo built both the OTO and A.A. The Golden Dawn is and will continue to be its very own governing body completely seperate on paper from Thelemic organizations. Yes there is overlap. Yes the rituals and ceremonies are strikingly similar, however, that is more due to the fact that Crowley was in the Golden Dawn first and it colored much of his magickal turn of thought.

As to why Thelema is listed under the Luciferian heading, how is this blurb in any way supportive of that? Thelema is not really a Luciferian philosophy. The goal of any Thelemite is to acquire the conversation of their Holy Guardian Angel, or "higher consciousness". This is in no way comparable to satanism as it is known today. To LaVeyan Satanists, the Will is the law. You have no responsibilities to anyone but yourself and the ones you love. Modern Satanism is nothing more than Humanism with a controversial name. I am in no way cheapening any of it's magical paths. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Goetia through it's conjurations of demons and lords of hell I can let slide into this category as far as the mainstream "adept" is concerned. However, to thrust a purely Hermetic and loosely Judeo-Christian philosophy in amongst Satanists and Demon worshippers is a little left field.