Uncalled Elemental incursions

[Greenjackdavey]

I am new here so please go easy on me. I am not a practising occultist but I am experiencing random manifestatios of elemental spirits in the form of globes and small humanoids. They seem oblivious to my presence but re act to camera flashes. I have tried various forms of communication but they seem pre occupied in moving "things" around my garden. This has been going on for over a decade. I have read and studied many beliefs and theories but I am none the wiser. Is their anybody out there that has any practical experience with physical manifestations that could give me some serious advice. (I have also experienced "sunburn" when I get to close to them, is this dangerous for my long term health?)

[Spinel]

Have you done anything drastic to your garden at all?

[Salivanereni]

Well, the cure for elemental problems is to either make the environment hostile to the elemental or merely absorb the elemental,

What anyone must know to be able to help you is whether the elemental is a thought-form or is a real spirit, because there is a huge difference, and both are treated very differently.

Well? Which is it?

[Greenjackdavey]

Thought form or real spirit? Sorry if your asking that you cannot really help me.
Take a look at some of the photo`s, put " flickr greenjackdavey" in google, and please lets not start a debate on whether they are real photo`s or not, they have all been tested and they are "not a threat to National Security". : )
This is not the result of a magical operation and appears to be a natural phenomena.
So, what I am looking for is some pointers from anybody that has had REAL interaction, on how to proceed.
For obvious reasons I am also concerned about the health risks and preventive measures I should take for prolonged contact, ( for things such as "Radiation" burns, rashes, disorientation, panic attacks ) and would appreciate any help there as well, (although I have had great success using the Linden Method).
Are the slight changes in "humming", "Ear-popping" and "Clicks" a form of communication?
Failing any Magisters reading this, I would also be happy to hear from any ex-RAF personnel that have served in Essex and have had experiences with the "Critters" at the "Zoo".

[Salivanereni]

So, you are telling me that over a decade of study you have no idea what those "elementals" are?

You came to an "Occult Forum", you don't expect us to ask about elementals as in Spirit and Thought-Forms? You should know the difference, and If you have studied for a decade I am sure that you would have got rid of them, since they are so basic and even a beginner can dispel them.

If however they really are elementals as I know them, then no manner of "preventive measures" will protect you. Its back to the old school summoning or die and go to UFO heaven.

And the ear popping and clicks can either be a medical condition or, if you forgive my silliness, the after effects of telepathy. You knowledge of neurology of course will be sufficient to tolerate this explanation, I hope.

I am sorry if I offended you by trying to help.

[Greenjackdavey]

Please accept my unmitigated apologies if I have offended you, it was not my intent. I do appreciate your attempt to help and it shows a generous nature.
So, first of all please read my first email again, with fresh eyes and accept the possibility, that nowhere do I mention that I want to get rid of them.
I realise that in saying "Moving things around the garden", I might have implied some sort of poltergeist activity. It is just that the "things" they are moving are hard to explain. Shiny, glittering objects like balls and geometrical shapes. Telepathy ? well there are photos and other people have seen them. Kirilian photography, shared telepathy, possible but unlikely.
(I have the full medical and neurogical tests done, first thing actually when it all started, thank you for you concer though).

I am afraid that from my position, describing elementals as thought-forms or real spirits is a little bit to subjective. Both these descriptions are just different facets of representational energies, unless you are asking if they are debliberately created egrigores. Which I believe they are not but if they are, they were not created by me.
I am experiencing a rare manifestation of non-human intelligence and I was appealing for help from those people that I know, deal with these creatures on a daily basis.
I would like to know how to initiate verbal contact.

I have used the services of a ritual magician (he would'nt talk for days and then adopted catholicism) and a spirtual medium (complete mental breakdown, 3 months complete rest and she was okay though). Bombadier Richard Brittain, RAF did background emf, radiation checks, etc. Nothing out of the normal, he left the RAF soon after and I believe has gone to live on the Isle of Man.

I would really just like to know what they want and what is going on and can I help in anyway.

[Salivanereni]

Very well, very well,

I think I will resort to speak your language, and please consider me an interested party not a professional,

I will try to relay the description of elementals in term more scientific than "occult"...

You of course know how the human body does have a halo of electro-magnetic energy, which can be manipulated easily. This is the basis of radiation and many scans and tests done by scientists to affect subjects.

The truth is that humans can do so without the need for such devices. The first thing a magician learns is how to control his own halo, and how to sense the halos of others. Thoughts are more than electric pules, they are electromagnetic and by nature have certain frequencies that affect the brain and in turn gives you the urge to do things. When you sleep your mind merely changes frequency which is why your perceptions and reflexes change. This gives hypnosis power over subjects. Another subject relative to this is NLP, words in succession that interact with your thoughts and make them change frequency and influence you from another frequency which is why it is dangerous, people think without knowing they are thinking.

This is a brief explanation of certain concepts, it is not in-depth but will give you some knowledge of how the occult works.

As much as the human mind is affected it affects. A magician creating an elemental merely thinks the frequency from his mind to the outer world.

So when I asked you what they are I assumed you are trained to such feats as this, since you apparently possess such abilities to see certain frequencies and in the same time translate them into the frequency of your waking mind.

You can initiate contact then by thinking of them. By thinking of them as they think of themselves. Thats what your magician did to his detriment.

If you are on the same frequency, then you are using telepathy to communicate, and you will either face the intelligence of the spirit itself, or the magician who created the elemental.

In the latter case you may either face the magician if he is actively controlling the elemental, or the echo of his thought frequency, which will react as if it is a mind on its own, but it is rather the interactive echo of the creator's thoughts. It is like a lizard that had its tail cut off, the tail twitches but is no longer a part of the lizard. This is what we call a thought form. And the reason they are very dangerous is that they interact with the lower frequencies like those that they were created from. And then they work like hypnosis. The magician learns how to work actively on both High and Low frequencies before he creates these thought-forms. This in turn gives him the ability to see what exists on those lower frequencies. Which is what you do and what caused my confusion and snappiness.

Now the difference between thought-forms and elementals is that one is a mere extension of another beings thoughts and the other is a real being.

The word elementals then include both things. Elementals as in thought-forms, are merely thought-forms that have certain frequencies added to them that affect the target of the thought-forms in a way that can't be done by the mere echoing of thoughts. It is like giving a dagger a needle to inject poison in the jugular, no, what you do is coat the dagger with poison.

I would like to add that the fire and water attributes of an elemental is not necessarily intrinsic of real physical fire or water.

[Greenjackdavey]

Fascinating Stuff, thank you so much for that. Lots to think about.
We are getting deep into quantum physics here with reality being affected by the observer.

I have a completely open mind and now will return the favour by using your 'Occult' terms.

I take it this 'Halo' is the misty envelope that you can see surrounding people when it starts to get dark?

First things first, how do I discern if I am dealing with elements or thought forms?
Are there any tell tale signs.

As silly as it make sound, I have some things that look like unpainted garden gnomes, a sort of light grey colour, as if all the colour has drained out of them. I have actually had people ask me why I have not painted my garden gnomes. They seem preoccupied with a hand built stone wall I made. At first I thought they were carrying away blocks but there are never any gaps left behind.

There is swarm of orbs/lights that gather around the branches of an old apple tree like bees, usually at twilight. They get inceredibly excited by camera flashes (South West England, we do not have fire flies : )

There are dwarf male and female like beings that individually and in pairs seem interested in garden pond and all the frogs and other ceatures there. These seem insubstantial, like if you project a film or slide in a room without a screen. They are very difficult to photograph and sometimes appear in the pics as floating spheres or stars.

Lastly there are little " things", sometimes early morning but mostly twilight, fliting around the flowers for part of the year when they are in bloom, like bees or hummingbirds, just constantly moving from flower to flower.

[Stukov]

Have you considered that you are, perhaps, the one creating these entities. That you could be unaware of the power you have, even some old connections you have, and are bringing them to life? I would also consider anyone who has a power or ability over a certain aspect of the metaphysical, that they themselves were once a creature or being with that power. For example in your case, you could have before being born as your current human self, been a fairy or even an elemental.

This is of course just speculation and throwing ideas out there beyond the already well said words of others.

[Greenjackdavey]

Interesting but just speculation, lets try to keep on point here without moving into the realms of fantasy please.
Practical advice please. Right, here is some observations :
Home pickling, something about boiling vinegar disorientates them and makes their forms unstable. Any ideas?
(Warm) Burnt home made bread on the other hand attracts.
Garden tools, like spades and forks (Except shears, big scissors for trimming hedges) no effect.
Carpenter tools, saws hammers, nails (but not screws) repels like a bad smell.
Untidy rooms get more untidy, clean rooms and misplaced things appear, sometimes before they are lost.
(First thought, tidy room, easier to find things but no things turn up from other parts of the house)
Snow white moments with wildlife congregating. Just sitting and staring. (foxes, squirrels, badgers, frogs, toads,etc... Birds to numermous to mention, including non native species, cats, no dogs though)

[Salivanereni]

Fascinating Stuff, thank you so much for that. Lots to think about.
We are getting deep into quantum physics here with reality being affected by the observer.

I have a completely open mind and now will return the favour by using your 'Occult' terms.

I take it this 'Halo' is the misty envelope that you can see surrounding people when it starts to get dark?

First things first, how do I discern if I am dealing with elements or thought forms?
Are there any tell tale signs.

As silly as it make sound, I have some things that look like unpainted garden gnomes, a sort of light grey colour, as if all the colour has drained out of them. I have actually had people ask me why I have not painted my garden gnomes. They seem preoccupied with a hand built stone wall I made. At first I thought they were carrying away blocks but there are never any gaps left behind.

There is swarm of orbs/lights that gather around the branches of an old apple tree like bees, usually at twilight. They get inceredibly excited by camera flashes (South West England, we do not have fire flies : )

There are dwarf male and female like beings that individually and in pairs seem interested in garden pond and all the frogs and other ceatures there. These seem insubstantial, like if you project a film or slide in a room without a screen. They are very difficult to photograph and sometimes appear in the pics as floating spheres or stars.

Lastly there are little " things", sometimes early morning but mostly twilight, fliting around the flowers for part of the year when they are in bloom, like bees or hummingbirds, just constantly moving from flower to flower.

You can discern whether it is an elemental or a thought-form by merely checking it out on the astral, that is perceiving the frequencies of certain low degrees,

The perception of the astral is easy, if you are trained,

Thoughts are like magnet, they are attracted to what is similar to its frequency, so you turn your perception into a frequency and see all that exists on it.

If you want to know whether it is an elemental or a thought-form, sense if there is a cord or connection by focusing your perception on it. If you do it right you will see a silver line of energy stretching from the thought-form away into the horizon. Try to stretch your perception further and you may even see who is on the other end, if they didn't take precautions, that is.

The Halo can be seen, yes, like the swirls in the dark, by trained perceptions, but if you are not trained you may mix them with the liquid lubricating your eyes and pupils. Be careful.

Also as you may know, if you focus on a color too much you may get to see the flashing colours, a color contrasting with what you are focusing on. This is well known for those who study graphics, and many tricks can be done by spinning coloured discs and they would give white or other colours. If you study colour systems you will read and learn many tricks like this.

As for the manifestations and movements, thoughts as I said are like magnets and some absorb other energies and swarm next to it. Some get excited by lights and fire, some by the electromagnetic frequencies of certain metals and liquids.

This is the basis for luck charms and enchantment, but it is not important to discuss them now.

[Salivanereni]

Forgive my very late remark,

The effect of vinegar disrupting their formation is because it is well known in magic, that acids disturb physical manifestations.
Nitric Acid is the most powerful against such manifestations. The important is not the acid itself but its fumes.

I only just now noticed the post directed to Stukov.