Mind controling time travellers

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:31 pm

Just stumbled on some proof that may point to time travellers manipulating the present day and future with mind control elf waves and time travel. some reports claim they even went back to biblical days posed as aliens and created the modern christian religion making themselves literally God. any thoughts?

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:36 pm

How did you get my book Synopsis? Meh ... :lol:

I thought of this story line ages ago.

Yes I did ,yes I did,Yes I did....*sticks out tongue.....................prrrrrrrrrrrrrrpppppppp* :rolleyes:

Should make a great film doncha think, make it as a documentary,fuck some Fundies up.

Mon then,shows the proof..PROOF or it didn't happen.....

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:53 pm

i got the proof, lol..... but it is circumstantial. i know mad crazy shit like this. This world is a funny place

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:34 pm

It is indeed.

There have been many stories and novels written about time travellers interfering with history.The ones I 've read are mostly about specific events and people and they usually involving fucking up the timelines,in some horrific or hilarious fashion.

I 'm thinking Harry Harrison but other authors have written similarly.I also recall a story in 2000 ad comic from ages ago lol ,a Tharg's future shock piece,it involved going back in time and killing Hitler.
I know this might seem like a Godwinism,it's not.It was a real story,lol.

Hence my comments above.

Show us what you have and we can then discuss it.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:42 pm

If this is a serious topic,it might be better swapped over to another folder?

Reason and Unreason,maybe,pending further discussion?

We only put obvious,irritating and repeat trolls in here.It's the place to have fun in,you can post trolly threads too,but we do not Ban folk here just for posting controversial topics,so this can be moved if you are posting genuine info on summat you are interested in.

I 'd be happy to explore the concept with you,either way.

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:42 pm

a recent cnn news story, depicted a woman on film using a cell phone in the year 1914. time travel technology already exits, and the fact that that is public means that time travel is already possible.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:35 pm

Can you provide a clip or link about that?

I 'm sure I 've seen it also,but I recall the footage looking blurry and indistinct.....?

Also correlation equalling causation,wot?...."There is [possibly] footage of a mobile being used in 1914,therefore time travel is real"....you excluded a whole loada middle there too.

Oh and why ELF waves particularly,re your OP...?

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:26 pm

I posted a link as I can't embed it atm,glitchy pc,damn.This footage?

http://youtu.be/f3N1GL9CsgQ

No this is 1928,wrong year,soz.Can you link to the story?

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:06 pm

the news story clearly said 1914, irregardless she shouldnt have a cell phone and yea its the footage. Elf waves are how the world is controlled

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:19 pm

It's a hearing aid,in that 1928 footage.They existed at the time,lol,the 1924 model as,shown below:

hearing aid

The device is held to the ear, but the main part was carried in a pocket.It was the latest technology in the field,at that time.

Can you show any evidence for your posit that ELF waves are used to control The World?

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:41 pm

the kind of hearing aid you talk and laugh into?

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:41 pm

i guess it aids you in hearing the person on the other phone

TheSativaSniper · Post by **TheSativaSniper** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:43 pm

it sounds proposterous with out satellites to broadcast the phone call, but time machines exist today. this isnt my proof, im too lazy to post that shit just know i know what im talking about

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:23 pm

TheSativaSniper wrote:it sounds proposterous with out satellites to broadcast the phone call, but time machines exist today. this isnt my proof, im too lazy to post that shit just know i know what im talking about

Uh no,I won't just know.
You have to do much better than saying I should 'just' accept that you know what you are talking about,to convince me of anything.

People often laugh out loud and talk to themselves,particularly,if or when they are unused to a new device,like say perhaps... a new fangled type of hearing aid that they keep having to fiddle with,for instance...?

My explanation is much more plausible than your unevidenced assertions so far.

You really should bring some kind of evidence or back up information for your assumptions,as assumptions is all they are,until or unless you do.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:22 pm

ELF God

There is loads of Pseudoscientific batshittery and arcanely incoherent ramblings err....reasonable and Scientifically valid explanation sites online, about Mind control and ELF waves.

And then there's stuff like this too:

Illuminati Mind Control and the Occult

You are becoming boring,please at least try and engage,or no doubt this thread will die of loneliness soon.

Post by **Belial** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:18 am

Time travel is not at all possible.Time is merely an otherwise fictitious concept developed by humans for the purpose of mathematically measuring the distance between events.It does not inherently exist therefore you can not literally travel through it.Time is not what makes matter decay.Matter decays from wear and exposure to various influences that erode it's structure.It exists only so that you may place a number on that distance between now and that funny time you keep reminiscing about and to gauge the distance from future events.There is no time line to be tampered with.The concept of past and future are independent from the theory of time.You do not need a unit of measurement to look before you or behind you.

Now you may try to argue that inches and other units of measurement posses the same essence of applying numbers to measure distances yet you can freely travel back and forth inches.While they do have that in common you cannot simply travel back and forth inches.You can only increase the number of inches you progress , never decrease.Now before you say something along the lines of "watch me walk three inches forward then walk five backwards , then what?" be aware that you did not walk negative three inches , no you walked three inches then walked another five inches adding to a total of eight inches that you have just progressed.You can never reduce the number of inches you travel no matter what direction you walk.Before you mention the possibility that you may perhaps step five years backwards as you did with inches you have to realize the differences in the concept of these forms of measurement.Inches apply on a three dimensionally defined field where as time is run parallel on a single dimensionally defined field.If you still feel it possible to step backwards through the concept of time then you have missed the point of my post entirely whether deliberately or out of the inability to properly comprehend the context.

I know some of you may attempt to make the argument of precognition and prophecy but all of those instances directly relate to the outside influence of other beings making an effort to manipulate events in a manner they see fit and whether the vision is aimed at supporting it or from another being and aimed at opposing it vary.It's all calculated and founded upon the estimations of higher beings and thus are subject to vary slightly from the actual end result though in all instances are portrayed in a manner supportive of the involved being's goals.They may seem to be of uncanny accuracy but when you have an objective view and eons worth of knowledge at your disposal you can notice things that those who are more submerged within cannot.

Now should you actually uncover displaced technology that should not belong before you go pointing in such an unfeasible direction you should look to the more prominent causes.You act as if the world is alone and that kind of arrogance is rather reflective of the mentality common in the middle ages.Humanity in general happens to be rather arrogant and have a hard time accepting that the units of measurement they developed are unable to properly define the rest of existence without properly realizing that said measurements were not constructed to define anything more than what people were able to comprehend and define.The universe is not bound by mathematics.Such units are only able to accurately define local human events.Something acceptable in one country does not automatically make that same thing universally accepted in all other countries.Humans try to define the chaotic mass of the universe with their numbers and measurements but such an idea goes against the very essence of that chaotic mass.It's the same as trying to measure a cloud and assign to it static definitions when said cloud is of dynamic function.I'm not saying these units of measurement are useless as they apply well to most human affairs and has become so heavily integrated into society that removal of these concepts entirely would likely cause a great deal of damage to humanity as a whole.I'm only trying to stress the point that human concept and logic are not the be all end all defining principle of reality.Humanity needs to understand these are conceptual tools and not to be taken literally as almost all humans seem to do.It's as bad as expecting to see a massive line clearly drawn across the midsection of the planet spanning both land and see to define the borders of the hemispheres.

Well I sort of strayed off the point of displaced technology so I will readdress that topic here.It's rather asinine for humans to think themselves alone and the paragon of existence in the universe.The point being any displaced technology , should you manage to find it , could very well have come from outside influences separate from humanity.There are plenty of other beings more advanced than humans and they often interfere with human affairs to suit various agendas.The Earth is rather insignificant in comparison to the rest of the universe and I find this manner of perspective to be rather arrogant.

purgatory · Post by **purgatory** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:02 pm

timetraveling or not... aint it bad enough peoples mind are manipulated big time.

Post by **Belial** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:53 am

Honestly I see nothing wrong with manipulating people's minds.I do however tend to speak out rather bluntly against theories of time travel.If one's mind is controlled by another's it is their fault for having the lesser mind.

frozen0k · Post by **frozen0k** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:45 pm

Belial wrote:Honestly I see nothing wrong with manipulating people's minds.I do however tend to speak out rather bluntly against theories of time travel.If one's mind is controlled by another's it is their fault for having the lesser mind.

hmm, i tend to disagree your last statement. Until one realizes that his mind is controlled, there's nothing he can do about that, so how can it be his fault?
When a baby is born and all kind of craps are put into his mind by the society (parents, relatives, friends, teachers ... ), what choice does he have until he develops his mind to be able to see through all the lies?
The lesser mind acts just like a tape recorder, records and play over and over again same old shit; but when one totally identifies himself with the story from the tape, there's really no choice for him.

p.s.: I liked the time travel debunk

Post by **Belial** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:16 am

Thank you.Just something about it makes me twitch every time I see somebody bring up time travel especially when they have evidence to present that is never properly presented.They grasp the nearest straw and present it to support their theory and when you take it apart they claim to have more evidence that they never bother to share.

Well I admit I may be a little harsh in my perspective.To me , if you get shot it's your own fault for getting hit by the projectile.If you did not see or expect it then it is your fault for not seeing or expecting it.I blame the flaws and shortcomings of people on themselves.Even if they did not intend for the results they received due to lack of ability then I still blame them for their own lack of ability.Basically I'm not a particularly sympathetic person.To be abused by those stronger is the fault of the weaker for lacking the power to do something about it.

frozen0k · Post by **frozen0k** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:12 pm

well, ye, if people are not aware they will still suffer the consequences of their unconsciousness, and that suffering may eventually lead them out of unconsciousness ... though that's not necessary true.
Seems that people are quite masochists, since they prefer to stay in the familiar painful situations rather than facing the unknown.
I know this cause i've been there, could've escaped so easily from the pain ... but nooo, i had to stay until the last minute. Eventually life kicked in and forced me out of the situation; after that, i started to experience short glimpses of awareness and ever since i'm working to expand it. Not quite an easy task, it starts slowly and progress even more slowly, but that's no longer a problem, and i know that i would never go back to the previous state of mind.
So that's why i said that until one starts to become aware, there's really nothing he can do to get out of his lower mind. He is totally lost in the continuous thinking process, without even realizing that there's something else beside it. dubito ergo cogito ergo sum ... the definition of the ego .

Post by **dodaive** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:58 pm

I think that absolute objective time, should be distinguished from subjective time perception and specified functional time. Objective time is measured by the clock, subjective time perception is time as it is experienced by the one experiencing it. Experiments with LSD, as well as mind training, can create a wide variation in perception. Specified functional time is the measuring of how fast a person can perform pre-defined functions. This is where I believe most time magic, the ability to change how fast a person can do something in relation to someone else. These three different aspects of time, is where I think much of the confusion comes from.

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