Summoning Marbas

[link5019]

Not sure which section to put this in.
Okay then so Im scared of summoning pretty much anything involving well pretty much anything.
so i know this probably isnt likely, but i have a request. can someone summon the demon marbas and send him to do something for me.
(if you agree too i will give you details in a pm.)
if you cant or wont i understand.

[Clockwork Ghost]

Hi there,

You'll probably have a hard time finding someone willing to summon a demon from the Ars Goetia for you for nothing and send him over to you to do your bidding, plus its sort of impossible to do anyway because you wouldnt be in control of said demon so he wouldnt actually do your bidding in the first place, but if youre looking for help with the demons sigil and information on Marbas then I have found a good link which I have attached below.

Please just remember that Goetic demons arent interested in messing about, and if youre wanting them to do things for you then those things have to fall within that demons sphere of influence, namely (in this case) discovering other peoples secrets, causing or curing diseases, and problems involving mechanical things.

If you still want to go ahead with summoning Marbas, the only way is to get a hold of a copy of the Ars Goetia, study it (especially the section on protecting yourself, so you dont go crazy and start thinking youre a blueberry bush or anything), and do what it says to do in regards to summoning a demon to do your bidding. If you follow the Ars Goetia and dont act like a complete dickhead to the demon then you will be fine - just take the time to learn how to do the rituals and learn how to protect yourself.

You'll be fine as long as you put in the effort. [thumbup]

http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Mathers-Goe ... of-Marbas/

[Nahemah]

It's cool that you weren't sure where to put this and we are happy to move topics for members,it's not a hassle and we understand that it can be confusing,with all the categories we have.

At least it's not in beginners info,that alone is a good sign,lol.

Sound advice from Case,above.I think this might be better placed elsewhere,perhaps off topic Occult for now.Being scared is a healthy thing,it shows you are aware that summoning is a skillset and the forces involved are worthy of respect and caution.That is a decent start point.

[link5019]

Hi there,

You'll probably have a hard time finding someone willing to summon a demon from the Ars Goetia for you for nothing and send him over to you to do your bidding, plus its sort of impossible to do anyway because you wouldnt be in control of said demon so he wouldnt actually do your bidding in the first place, but if youre looking for help with the demons sigil and information on Marbas then I have found a good link which I have attached below.

Please just remember that Goetic demons arent interested in messing about, and if youre wanting them to do things for you then those things have to fall within that demons sphere of influence, namely (in this case) discovering other peoples secrets, causing or curing diseases, and problems involving mechanical things.

If you still want to go ahead with summoning Marbas, the only way is to get a hold of a copy of the Ars Goetia, study it (especially the section on protecting yourself, so you dont go crazy and start thinking youre a blueberry bush or anything), and do what it says to do in regards to summoning a demon to do your bidding. If you follow the Ars Goetia and dont act like a complete dickhead to the demon then you will be fine - just take the time to learn how to do the rituals and learn how to protect yourself.

You'll be fine as long as you put in the effort. [thumbup]

http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Mathers-Goe ... of-Marbas/

hey thanks for the advice.

[link5019]

Hey so any tips on how to summon him?
cause i have a couple of questions
1. what is the best way to summon him
2. will he devour me
3. is transforming painful(like since he can transform people into stuff is it painful to get transformed)
4. is his intrests in computers and art
5. what is some good offerings to give him.
6. any other tip?

[Clockwork Ghost]

Hey so any tips on how to summon him?
cause i have a couple of questions
1. what is the best way to summon him
2. will he devour me
3. is transforming painful(like since he can transform people into stuff is it painful to get transformed)
4. is his intrests in computers and art
5. what is some good offerings to give him.
6. any other tip?

Answers to your questions follow:

1. Use the methods contained in the Lesser Key of Solomon, aka the Ars Goetia. A copy of the Ars Goetia can be found here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/lks/index.htm
2. No
3. Having never been transformed before, I have no idea. I have my suspicions that transformation is performed on more a mental level than a physical level however - remember that much of ancient demonology is metaphorical.
4. Anything mechanical, so computers would be within his sphere of influence.
5. Try to find the answer within the Ars Goetia. If you cant, then try asking him what a good offering would be. Most demons will give you some idea as to what a good offering would be through dreams or visions.
6. Basically, just dont be a dick to the demons, take time to study the Ars Goetia, take it seriously and you'll be fine. Dont stress too much about the make up of the seals, like dont try to get lions mane belts or gold and silver for seals and stuff, but do go with the right symbols and sigils. Try to keep with the correct format for the invocations and make sure you treat the entire paradigm with respect - its a rather old system of magic, and people have been using it to communicate with the world of demons for a very long time, so the latent magical energies alone ensure that the chance for success is very high.

[link5019]

Hey so any tips on how to summon him?
cause i have a couple of questions
1. what is the best way to summon him
2. will he devour me
3. is transforming painful(like since he can transform people into stuff is it painful to get transformed)
4. is his intrests in computers and art
5. what is some good offerings to give him.
6. any other tip?

Answers to your questions follow:

1. Use the methods contained in the Lesser Key of Solomon, aka the Ars Goetia. A copy of the Ars Goetia can be found here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/lks/index.htm
2. No
3. Having never been transformed before, I have no idea. I have my suspicions that transformation is performed on more a mental level than a physical level however - remember that much of ancient demonology is metaphorical.
4. Anything mechanical, so computers would be within his sphere of influence.
5. Try to find the answer within the Ars Goetia. If you cant, then try asking him what a good offering would be. Most demons will give you some idea as to what a good offering would be through dreams or visions.
6. Basically, just dont be a dick to the demons, take time to study the Ars Goetia, take it seriously and you'll be fine. Dont stress too much about the make up of the seals, like dont try to get lions mane belts or gold and silver for seals and stuff, but do go with the right symbols and sigils. Try to keep with the correct format for the invocations and make sure you treat the entire paradigm with respect - its a rather old system of magic, and people have been using it to communicate with the world of demons for a very long time, so the latent magical energies alone ensure that the chance for success is very high.

well i was talking about gender change with the shapeshifting

[Clockwork Ghost]

well i was talking about gender change with the shapeshifting

I have no idea if Marbas can change your gender for you. He could probably make you believe you were a woman, or a man if youre already a woman, but as for physically changing your gender I dunno man. Youre probably going to have to spend some serious time studying the whole paradigm and putting some serious effort into communicating with the demons of the Ars Goetia, plus for something that big and that serious youre going to probably have to give a hell of a lot in return.

Im not going to say its impossible, Ive just never heard of it being done before. That said, youve definitely chosen a great paradigm to use to try it out with - the Ars Goetia is serious buisiness, but youre going to really have to get to know it like the back of your hands before you can command that kind of power.

[link5019]

well i was talking about gender change with the shapeshifting

I have no idea if Marbas can change your gender for you. He could probably make you believe you were a woman, or a man if youre already a woman, but as for physically changing your gender I dunno man. Youre probably going to have to spend some serious time studying the whole paradigm and putting some serious effort into communicating with the demons of the Ars Goetia, plus for something that big and that serious youre going to probably have to give a hell of a lot in return.

Im not going to say its impossible, Ive just never heard of it being done before. That said, youve definitely chosen a great paradigm to use to try it out with - the Ars Goetia is serious buisiness, but youre going to really have to get to know it like the back of your hands before you can command that kind of power.

well every description of him says he can change your form. although the text is kinda confusing and the footnotes dont help much

[Clockwork Ghost]

well every description of him says he can change your form. although the text is kinda confusing and the footnotes dont help much

Awesome, sounds like youre definitely on to something for sure. Meditate on him, reach out to him with your mind while concentrating on his seal - the one Ive linked you to already. See if you can make contact with him that way and ask him questions as to whether he can change a persons gender. Watch for answers in dreams or in strange synchronicities.

Much unlike popular fiction, demons dont eat people, they just make you go mad if you piss them off or if you act like a complete asshole around them and dont treat them with due respect. If you simply ask questions and call Marbas Lord when you try to communicate with him then you'll be fine. The danger comes when you try to call him forth, which is why the paradigm has a triangle and circle of protection and a whole plethora of protective ritual elements that you follow.

[link5019]

well every description of him says he can change your form. although the text is kinda confusing and the footnotes dont help much

Awesome, sounds like youre definitely on to something for sure. Meditate on him, reach out to him with your mind while concentrating on his seal - the one Ive linked you to already. See if you can make contact with him that way and ask him questions as to whether he can change a persons gender. Watch for answers in dreams or in strange synchronicities.

Much unlike popular fiction, demons dont eat people, they just make you go mad if you piss them off or if you act like a complete asshole around them and dont treat them with due respect. If you simply ask questions and call Marbas Lord when you try to communicate with him then you'll be fine. The danger comes when you try to call him forth, which is why the paradigm has a triangle and circle of protection and a whole plethora of protective ritual elements that you follow.

so i would draw or print his symbol out put it in a circle which is in a triangle for protection and other protective stuff. then summon him(is ritual you make better or the gotiec one(which is incredibly confusing)) ask him what he wants as an offering in return for what you want get transform/morphed, give him the offering, and then give him the exit license and your done?

[Clockwork Ghost]

so i would draw or print his symbol out put it in a circle which is in a triangle for protection and other protective stuff. then summon him(is ritual you make better or the gotiec one(which is incredibly confusing)) ask him what he wants as an offering in return for what you want get transform/morphed, give him the offering, and then give him the exit license and your done?

Youve basically got it, yes. You should follow the Goetic ritual to the letter however, not make up your own, plus you should study the Ars Goetia first - preferrably reading the whole thing from cover to cover. The 'other protective stuff' is important, so dont just take it lightly - the more serious you are about this the more chance it has of working. You also shouldnt just assume that this will be a one-off ritual as most demons expect that you will slowly build up a relationship with them over a period of time if youre going to expect them to do something as life changing as what youre asking - finding out what he wants for an offering might take weeks, for instance.

Take time to do this right, dont just rush into this and expect it all to work. Study the Lesser Key of Solomon, make the things youre going to need, develop a relationship with the demons in question, relax into the paradigm as a whole - Ive been studying demonology for over sixteen years and Im still discovering things. What youre trying to do shouldnt be rushed, it should take time, so take the time to do it right.

[link5019]

so i would draw or print his symbol out put it in a circle which is in a triangle for protection and other protective stuff. then summon him(is ritual you make better or the gotiec one(which is incredibly confusing)) ask him what he wants as an offering in return for what you want get transform/morphed, give him the offering, and then give him the exit license and your done?

Youve basically got it, yes. You should follow the Goetic ritual to the letter however, not make up your own, plus you should study the Ars Goetia first - preferrably reading the whole thing from cover to cover. The 'other protective stuff' is important, so dont just take it lightly - the more serious you are about this the more chance it has of working. You also shouldnt just assume that this will be a one-off ritual as most demons expect that you will slowly build up a relationship with them over a period of time if youre going to expect them to do something as life changing as what youre asking - finding out what he wants for an offering might take weeks, for instance.

Take time to do this right, dont just rush into this and expect it all to work. Study the Lesser Key of Solomon, make the things youre going to need, develop a relationship with the demons in question, relax into the paradigm as a whole - Ive been studying demonology for over sixteen years and Im still discovering things. What youre trying to do shouldnt be rushed, it should take time, so take the time to do it right.

okay i still dont understand the ritual part that it talked about though.

[Clockwork Ghost]

Thats why you study the Lesser Key more and ask more specific questions about what you dont understand... [grin]

Seriously though, I'm more than happy to help wherever I can. Just post the section of the Lesser Key that you dont understand and tell us what you believe its saying and we'll try to work through it together, okay?

[Taiyounoryu]

I'm kind of in a rush, so I didn't get a chance to read all this.. But as Case said, treat demons with respect. Following Solomon's ways to the word wont get you very far. You aren't necessarily in power as much as you think, so binding the demon and trying to force your will upon it will not be good. Take your time, and treat the practice and the demon with respect. Good luck man, with Case helping you things should go good. Seems like the guy knows what he's doing [smile]

[link5019]

Thats why you study the Lesser Key more and ask more specific questions about what you dont understand... [grin]

Seriously though, I'm more than happy to help wherever I can. Just post the section of the Lesser Key that you dont understand and tell us what you believe its saying and we'll try to work through it together, okay?

well the foot note on summoning says 56:1 Here interpolate the name of the Spirit desired to be invocated. In some of the Codices there are faint variations in the form of wording of the conjurations, but not sufficient to change the sense, e. g., "Tartarean abode" for "Tartarean seat," etc. and i dont know where its talking about in this whole thing
I DO invocate and conjure thee, O Spirit, N. 1; and being with power armed from the SUPREME MAJESTY, I do strongly command thee, by BERALANENSIS, BALDACHIENSIS, PAUMACHIA, and APOLOGIAE SEDES; by the most Powerful Princes, Genii, Liachidæ, and Ministers of the Tartarean Abode; and by the Chief Prince of the Seat of Apologia in the Ninth Legion, I do invoke thee, and by invocating conjure thee. And being armed with power from the SUPREME MAJESTY, I do strongly command thee, by Him Who spake and it was done, and unto whom all creatures be obedient. Also I, being made after the image of GOD, endued with power from GOD and created according unto His will, do exorcise thee by that most mighty and powerful name of GOD, EL, strong and wonderful; O thou Spirit N. And I command thee and Him who spake the Word and His FIAT was accomplished, and by all the names of God. Also by the names ADONAI, EL, ELOHIM, ELOHI, EHYEH, ASHER EHYEH, ZABAOTH, ELION, IAH, TETRAGRAMMATON, SHADDAI, LORD GOD MOST HIGH, I do exorcise thee and do powerfully command thee, O thou Spirit N., that thou dost forthwith


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appear unto me here before this Circle in a fair human shape, without any deformity or tortuosity. And by this ineffable name, TETRAGRAMMATON IEHOVAH, do I command thee, at the which being heard the elements are overthrown, the air is shaken, the sea runneth back, the fire is quenched, the earth trembleth, and all the hosts of the celestials, terrestrials, and infernals, do tremble together, and are troubled and confounded. Wherefore come thou, O Spirit N., forthwith, and without delay, from any or all parts of the world wherever thou mayest be, and make rational answers unto all things that I shall demand of thee. Come thou peaceably, visibly, and affably, now, and without delay, manifesting that which I shall desire. For thou art conjured by the name of the LIVING and TRUE GOD, HELIOREN, wherefore fulfil thou my commands, and persist thou therein unto the end, and according unto mine interest, visibly and affably speaking unto me with a voice clear and intelligible without any ambiguity.

[Clockwork Ghost]

...Following Solomon's ways to the word wont get you very far...

You see, Im in two minds about this. Yes, demons are much more three dimensional than the Lesser Key allows for with its more captive mentality at times, but I also think its important that people new to magic dont mess around with paradigms in piece-meal formats. I would say that if youre going to use a system like the Goetia that you do use it in its entirety, but that you remember not to be an idiot in your approach to the demons and that you give them breathing room and treat them with respect. Just taking sections of the Goetia is leaving yourself open to missing out on important parts, as its quite a complex system of ceremonialism, plus its a beautiful example of a rich and complex self contained system of demonology that you dont see in many other paradigms. Yes, you can take the seals out of it and use them, and yes, you can take the circle and triangle and use them elsewhere, but just using it all blindly is like trying to paint Michaelangelo forgeries while blindfolded - its an insult to a truly amazing system of magic.

I agree that Solomon was a prat, but the knowledge contained within the Lesser Key is priceless.

[link5019]

...Following Solomon's ways to the word wont get you very far...

You see, Im in two minds about this. Yes, demons are much more three dimensional than the Lesser Key allows for with its more captive mentality at times, but I also think its important that people new to magic dont mess around with paradigms in piece-meal formats. I would say that if youre going to use a system like the Goetia that you do use it in its entirety, but that you remember not to be an idiot in your approach to the demons and that you give them breathing room and treat them with respect. Just taking sections of the Goetia is leaving yourself open to missing out on important parts, as its quite a complex system of ceremonialism, plus its a beautiful example of a rich and complex self contained system of demonology that you dont see in many other paradigms. Yes, you can take the seals out of it and use them, and yes, you can take the circle and triangle and use them elsewhere, but just using it all blindly is like trying to paint Michaelangelo forgeries while blindfolded - its an insult to a truly amazing system of magic.

I agree that Solomon was a prat, but the knowledge contained within the Lesser Key is priceless.

well i see that but what does the foot not mean

[Clockwork Ghost]

[quote="link5019]well the foot note on summoning says 56:1 Here interpolate the name of the Spirit desired to be invocated... In some of the Codices there are faint variations in the form of wording of the conjurations, but not sufficient to change the sense, e. g., "Tartarean abode" for "Tartarean seat," etc. and i dont know where its talking about in this whole thing...
I DO invocate and conjure thee, O Spirit, N. 1; and being with power armed from the SUPREME MAJESTY,... [/quote]

Your question is in two parts and Ive left the section of text thats important, which relates to the first part of your question. All that the footnote means is that you put Marbas' name in where the N. 1 is, so it reads 'I DO invocate and conjure thee, O Spirit, MARBAS; and being with power armed from the SUPREME MAJESTY'. As to the second part of your question, its just saying that the wording changes based on context, so sometimes a codex will say abode while other codices say seat - thats just important because in demonology youre often working with rituals that are written like legal contracts and the wording is incredibly important and has to be spoken exactly right.

[link5019]

[quote="link5019]well the foot note on summoning says 56:1 Here interpolate the name of the Spirit desired to be invocated... In some of the Codices there are faint variations in the form of wording of the conjurations, but not sufficient to change the sense, e. g., "Tartarean abode" for "Tartarean seat," etc. and i dont know where its talking about in this whole thing...
I DO invocate and conjure thee, O Spirit, N. 1; and being with power armed from the SUPREME MAJESTY,...

Your question is in two parts and Ive left the section of text thats important, which relates to the first part of your question. All that the footnote means is that you put Marbas' name in where the N. 1 is, so it reads 'I DO invocate and conjure thee, O Spirit, MARBAS; and being with power armed from the SUPREME MAJESTY'. As to the second part of your question, its just saying that the wording changes based on context, so sometimes a codex will say abode while other codices say seat - thats just important because in demonology youre often working with rituals that are written like legal contracts and the wording is incredibly important and has to be spoken exactly right.[/quote][/quote]
ah okay thats good to know thank you. i ctually heard marbas is actually friendly and nice.

[Clockwork Ghost]

ah okay thats good to know thank you. i ctually heard marbas is actually friendly and nice.

No problems. Let me know if you have any more questions about the Goetia or about anything else to do with demonology. Make sure you actually read the Lesser Key if youre planning on summoning Marbas - if nothing else, its an amazing book of knowledge.

[link5019]

ink5019 wrote:
ah okay thats good to know thank you. i ctually heard marbas is actually friendly and nice.


No problems. Let me know if you have any more questions about the Goetia or about anything else to do with demonology. Make sure you actually read the Lesser Key if youre planning on summoning Marbas - if nothing else, its an amazing book of knowledge.

i noticed ill read it and make sure to do everything safely

[Taiyounoryu]

...Following Solomon's ways to the word wont get you very far...

You see, Im in two minds about this. Yes, demons are much more three dimensional than the Lesser Key allows for with its more captive mentality at times, but I also think its important that people new to magic dont mess around with paradigms in piece-meal formats. I would say that if youre going to use a system like the Goetia that you do use it in its entirety, but that you remember not to be an idiot in your approach to the demons and that you give them breathing room and treat them with respect. Just taking sections of the Goetia is leaving yourself open to missing out on important parts, as its quite a complex system of ceremonialism, plus its a beautiful example of a rich and complex self contained system of demonology that you dont see in many other paradigms. Yes, you can take the seals out of it and use them, and yes, you can take the circle and triangle and use them elsewhere, but just using it all blindly is like trying to paint Michaelangelo forgeries while blindfolded - its an insult to a truly amazing system of magic.

I agree that Solomon was a prat, but the knowledge contained within the Lesser Key is priceless.

Yea my bad Case, I didn't have a whole lot of time to cover all of that. If your new its not good to start being eclectic (not sure if I'm using that word right) with practices. Solomon paints demons as just tools to be used and discarded almost. They have feelings and motives just like the rest of us, if you respect those while keeping yourself protected you'll come out ahead. (:

When people either dabble or treat demons with disrespect that's when you start hearing all the horror stories of demons causing trouble. Nightmares, shit moving, blah blah blah. There's a good road, and then there's a rocky road with summoning demons and entities. If more people would treat summoning differently I think many more people would leave the experience with something good. Not bad vibes and a phobia of anything occult related. Lol.

[link5019]

...Following Solomon's ways to the word wont get you very far...

You see, Im in two minds about this. Yes, demons are much more three dimensional than the Lesser Key allows for with its more captive mentality at times, but I also think its important that people new to magic dont mess around with paradigms in piece-meal formats. I would say that if youre going to use a system like the Goetia that you do use it in its entirety, but that you remember not to be an idiot in your approach to the demons and that you give them breathing room and treat them with respect. Just taking sections of the Goetia is leaving yourself open to missing out on important parts, as its quite a complex system of ceremonialism, plus its a beautiful example of a rich and complex self contained system of demonology that you dont see in many other paradigms. Yes, you can take the seals out of it and use them, and yes, you can take the circle and triangle and use them elsewhere, but just using it all blindly is like trying to paint Michaelangelo forgeries while blindfolded - its an insult to a truly amazing system of magic.

I agree that Solomon was a prat, but the knowledge contained within the Lesser Key is priceless.

Yea my bad Case, I didn't have a whole lot of time to cover all of that. If your new its not good to start being eclectic (not sure if I'm using that word right) with practices. Solomon paints demons as just tools to be used and discarded almost. They have feelings and motives just like the rest of us, if you respect those while keeping yourself protected you'll come out ahead. (:

When people either dabble or treat demons with disrespect that's when you start hearing all the horror stories of demons causing trouble. Nightmares, shit moving, blah blah blah. There's a good road, and then there's a rocky road with summoning demons and entities. If more people would treat summoning differently I think many more people would leave the experience with something good. Not bad vibes and a phobia of anything occult related. Lol.

im not new to magic i just have not ever summoned a demon before. but hey i dont considerr them tools, i think of them as people who you can befriend that can help you if you need help. i would treat any spirit, demon, anything with respect because i know the have feelings and motives.

[MoonMarbas]

I have quite a bit of personal familiarity with Barbas. I decided to make this account many years after the original poster with hopes that anyone thinking of contacting this entity can understand him a bit more accurately.

Barbas (or Marbas, if you prefer) and I came into contact with eachother many years ago when I first started pursuing music, among many other art forms. I've gone through many transformations and adaptations of self due to his various lessons. Many of which were tough on me but overall were very rewarding in the long run.
He's also been a personal part of my life beyond the pact he and I agreed upon many years ago. I am twenty-eight at the point of writing this, and first came into contact with him when I was twenty-three. I was at a very hard point in my life, much was going wrong, and it was then that fear wasn't part of my being anymore. Turning to something unknown as this without even a crumb of fear requires a person to have nothing left to lose in most cases, though many are simply delusional and think that simply calling out for these beings means they will aide you absolutely without the possibility of ignoring you, turning you down, or outright fucking your life up. Whilst the majority of my experiences have been wonderful, I have heard that things can go badly for a person who's barely broken through the "occult blind" of the art, as a whole. Regardless, I successfully put my message out into the void, I was miserable and desperate. And one day I had a breakthrough, my drive, my work ethic, my mind's personal maturity had all shifted towards much brighter horizons out of nowhere, and I frequently felt a presence guiding me. I was unsure of who this presence belonged to for a long time, but was grateful for their assistance and input. Though one day he announced himself with his "true" name, which I won't repeat here because that is between him and his charges. It happened quite mundanely as I walked down my street, wondering who it was I "felt" around me, telling me what aspect of my various arts needed work, and in what ways. His response was simple and took some time to gestate and understand. Now, five years later he and I have started working together more closely, shaping current events of life to pursue my various and large amount of artistic interests that should take form within the next few months. I share my experience because I want to stress that he is fatherly figure, one who is at once gentle but stern. He expects you to hold yourself to a standard, and equally hold yourself accountable for your short comings.

As far as "transformation", I assure you this isn't literal the way you may think. You have to understand that the "astral" plane is where most changes will take place before trickling down to this place. He can "change" your shape, or rather, set the stage for your shape to be more malleable in the astral plane than it may innately be. As humans our astral composition is rather rigid whilst we're still in a human vessel and most changes we would like to make are harder than one would immediately believe, this is one of his specialties, and it is through this specialty that he helped me adapt and learn various skills within a time frame that'd shock most.

The thing we have to understand is that his ability to "heal and cause disease, transform individuals, and teach mechanical arts" are all the same thing if you apply what I've said of the astral plane and his ability to bring about malleability to the aspiring initiate in the art, regarding the astral body. Many want to seek council and pact with "demons" who specialize in external astral manifestation and adjustment, IE: Material gains. But Marbas is a shaper of the within, not the without. I hope that helps.

For those who may be curious of the music Marbas and I have written together thus far, here is a link to some of our music:
https://moonmarbas.bandzoogle.com/noises