Help With How To Summon
Help With How To Summon
Hi everyone,
It's my first time posting on this forum. Hopefully I can find the help I seek. I have been in contact with a demon the past few years now. I have gotten to know him, for better or for worse. Lately, I have been praying for a visual, material, real manifestation. But the demon has made it known to me that I cannot bring this about. He has told me that I have already forfeited my soul and can no longer bargain with him with my freedom.
I want to know if there is someone who can get into contact with other demons for me. I have been inquiring about Lilith, and I think she is a succubus. I want her to manifest herself to me for the intent of performing ritual sex, the purpose of which is still not clear to me. If I can find another succubus or demon, I Wouldn't mind.
Can someone help?
It's my first time posting on this forum. Hopefully I can find the help I seek. I have been in contact with a demon the past few years now. I have gotten to know him, for better or for worse. Lately, I have been praying for a visual, material, real manifestation. But the demon has made it known to me that I cannot bring this about. He has told me that I have already forfeited my soul and can no longer bargain with him with my freedom.
I want to know if there is someone who can get into contact with other demons for me. I have been inquiring about Lilith, and I think she is a succubus. I want her to manifest herself to me for the intent of performing ritual sex, the purpose of which is still not clear to me. If I can find another succubus or demon, I Wouldn't mind.
Can someone help?
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Pretty sure it doesn't work like that, nobody is going to be able to give you a spell on the internet so you can summon an ancient biblical demon and have ritual sex with her.
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'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
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"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
'The Path of Illumination'
he who gives himself to this path
is like a block of wood
that gives itself to the chisel-
cut by cut it is honed to perfection"
- DDJ, Verse 27
"It's still magic even if you know how it's done." - Terry Pratchett
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Firstly, the excuse given for not manifesting is wrong - the demon you deal with should be able to manifest no matter what, and the fact that youve 'sold your soul' already is meaningless - if you have entered into a pact with that demon where your soul was the price then the pact is till death. Tell the demon to stop being so damn lazy, in the nicest possible way, of course.
Secondly, Lilith isnt just a succubus, shes a Qlippothic demoness of unimaginable power. Dont go messing about with her unless you know what youre doing, because she has a tendency to drive men to absolute irreversible madness and death. Summoning her just because you want to have sex with something would be an extremely bad move of a huge magnitude.
Secondly, Lilith isnt just a succubus, shes a Qlippothic demoness of unimaginable power. Dont go messing about with her unless you know what youre doing, because she has a tendency to drive men to absolute irreversible madness and death. Summoning her just because you want to have sex with something would be an extremely bad move of a huge magnitude.
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I know all of that. I have already forfeited my soul, so I know I belong to the devil for all eternity. But from my conversations with the demon, he has made it known to me that I have to somehow be prepared for my passage into eternity.
The sex act is a ritual that unleashes incredible raw energy. I still have my doubts about belonging to the devil, but I find that only by being put into contact with Lilith, can I be put into contact with the netherworld. I have never seen the face of the devil who talks to me, except only once and I had just been awoken as I was in the middle of my sleep. I wasn't affected at all, felt no fear and immediately went back to sleep.
I would appreciate if someone would guide me in the correct path. In a way, I just need intercession with the Lord of the demons.
The sex act is a ritual that unleashes incredible raw energy. I still have my doubts about belonging to the devil, but I find that only by being put into contact with Lilith, can I be put into contact with the netherworld. I have never seen the face of the devil who talks to me, except only once and I had just been awoken as I was in the middle of my sleep. I wasn't affected at all, felt no fear and immediately went back to sleep.
I would appreciate if someone would guide me in the correct path. In a way, I just need intercession with the Lord of the demons.
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What youre saying doesnt make any sense - you know all about what we're saying yet you believe that you cant manifest the demon to which youve sold your soul? We could tell you anything and it wouldnt make any difference, I feel - youre lost inside your paradigm and resigned to a fate that you personally dont understand.
You dont need Lilith to teach you about the netherworld through sex, thats just bonkers, and its an insult to Lilith. If anything you need to asess what youre trying to do from a logical standpoint and check to see if it has any glaringly obvious holes. One part you might want to take into consideration is that you seem to have received nothing back in return for your sacrifice, plus you appear to have no real understanding of the pantheon of demons that youre working with either.
Who is this demon to whom you have sold your soul, and why did you do such a thing in the first place? Why did the demon want such a thing when no demon Ive ever come across in a decade of study into such creatures has ever tried to make a pact for souls, much preferring the time and energy of the living over the souls of the dead? Why have you chosen Lilith as a guide to the netherworld over someone much more suited, such as Hel or Samael, or any number of other representations of death and destruction? Is it simply that you want to have sex with a demon, in which case why not just summon a stock-standard succubus?
You dont need Lilith to teach you about the netherworld through sex, thats just bonkers, and its an insult to Lilith. If anything you need to asess what youre trying to do from a logical standpoint and check to see if it has any glaringly obvious holes. One part you might want to take into consideration is that you seem to have received nothing back in return for your sacrifice, plus you appear to have no real understanding of the pantheon of demons that youre working with either.
Who is this demon to whom you have sold your soul, and why did you do such a thing in the first place? Why did the demon want such a thing when no demon Ive ever come across in a decade of study into such creatures has ever tried to make a pact for souls, much preferring the time and energy of the living over the souls of the dead? Why have you chosen Lilith as a guide to the netherworld over someone much more suited, such as Hel or Samael, or any number of other representations of death and destruction? Is it simply that you want to have sex with a demon, in which case why not just summon a stock-standard succubus?
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Hi there,Case wrote:What youre saying doesnt make any sense - you know all about what we're saying yet you believe that you cant manifest the demon to which youve sold your soul? We could tell you anything and it wouldnt make any difference, I feel - youre lost inside your paradigm and resigned to a fate that you personally dont understand.
You dont need Lilith to teach you about the netherworld through sex, thats just bonkers, and its an insult to Lilith. If anything you need to asess what youre trying to do from a logical standpoint and check to see if it has any glaringly obvious holes. One part you might want to take into consideration is that you seem to have received nothing back in return for your sacrifice, plus you appear to have no real understanding of the pantheon of demons that youre working with either.
Who is this demon to whom you have sold your soul, and why did you do such a thing in the first place? Why did the demon want such a thing when no demon Ive ever come across in a decade of study into such creatures has ever tried to make a pact for souls, much preferring the time and energy of the living over the souls of the dead? Why have you chosen Lilith as a guide to the netherworld over someone much more suited, such as Hel or Samael, or any number of other representations of death and destruction? Is it simply that you want to have sex with a demon, in which case why not just summon a stock-standard succubus?
My case is kind of troublesome, even unheard of. The demon who I communicate with is Lucifer, the prince of the devils. It was revealed to me that God wanted me to become a priest, to which I accepted. But then, I changed my mind, and I decided not to become a priest anymore. It seems that following this decision, this devil entered my life, and I became his slave. Effectively, I have forfeited my soul.
He has told me that I am heading towards hell. It seems that one of the ways of holding in bondage to him, has always been through sex, either by watching it or actually engaging in it. I think I have come to a certain point in my communication with this demon at which I am entitled to a manifestation of some sort. I am convinced that it is going to be sexual in nature. But I get the impression that I have to give him something more in order to bring it about, but I am not certain what.
Concerning the pantheon of demons, yes, I am not familiar with demons. I just chose Lilith because it is the one I am most familiar with. I have read quite a bit about her. If you have other succubi names to suggest, I would be glad to hear about them.
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First of all, I cant help much with the succubus, but you need to know that you shouldn't resign yourself to a fate. I had "sold" (not sure what the best term here is) my soul a few years back when I first started practicing satanism. Even though I'm not on that path anymore, I still consider my soul mine and mine alone. Even in the end if we were to be enslaved I dont think there's any reason to roll over and let it happen. Fate is yours to control man, if your really going to roll over belly up. One of the biggest traits of a good satanist I think is never ever giving up. When working with this paradigm, you have to be strong and solid both in mind and soul. As many forms of Satanism focus on self reliance.
I think this life, and the next is yours to control. If this isn't a fate you want.. Then dont accept it. I'm in the same boat buddy, but I'll be damned when I croak if anyone is going to tell me what to do on the other side. Much luck with everything.
I think this life, and the next is yours to control. If this isn't a fate you want.. Then dont accept it. I'm in the same boat buddy, but I'll be damned when I croak if anyone is going to tell me what to do on the other side. Much luck with everything.
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Right. You havent sold your soul because you havent signed a contract with Lucifer handing him the deeds to your soul and then burnt the contract. You also havent expressly pledged your soul to Lucifer in a ritual involving blood sacrifice either by the sounds of it, so youre not even blood-bound to him as a servant. If youve just said 'I sell you my soul' then what youve done is meaningless, as such an act carries no weight due to the fact that it has no ritual element behind it and no act of sacrifice to bind the contract or 'seal the deal'.
Secondly, think of the Christian paradigm Lucifer (because thats the paradigm it sounds like youre operating within) as a very good lawyer. Hes also a very good liar, and good with twisting words to fit his own ends. It sounds like youve come at this from a completely blind angle and have been tricked by Lucifer into believing what he's telling you, which is all a big bunch of lies by the sound of it.
Listen to Taiyounoryu - what he says is very true. You havent actually done anything by the sound of it, so you dont need to do anything else. You dont need to summon a succubus or have sex with demons, nor do you need to dance to Lucifers tune if you dont want to - the contract isnt signed nor delivered, no-ones soul is forfeit, nothing has happened except Lucifer has fooled you into believing he has more control over you than he really does.
Basically, dont 'sell your soul' to anything - its a ridiculous idea. Ive done it in the past, so has Taiyounoryu, so have a whole bunch of people Im guessing. I sold my soul for a bag of chips and a can of coke, but you live and learn, and now I dont even believe in souls...
Secondly, think of the Christian paradigm Lucifer (because thats the paradigm it sounds like youre operating within) as a very good lawyer. Hes also a very good liar, and good with twisting words to fit his own ends. It sounds like youve come at this from a completely blind angle and have been tricked by Lucifer into believing what he's telling you, which is all a big bunch of lies by the sound of it.
Listen to Taiyounoryu - what he says is very true. You havent actually done anything by the sound of it, so you dont need to do anything else. You dont need to summon a succubus or have sex with demons, nor do you need to dance to Lucifers tune if you dont want to - the contract isnt signed nor delivered, no-ones soul is forfeit, nothing has happened except Lucifer has fooled you into believing he has more control over you than he really does.
Basically, dont 'sell your soul' to anything - its a ridiculous idea. Ive done it in the past, so has Taiyounoryu, so have a whole bunch of people Im guessing. I sold my soul for a bag of chips and a can of coke, but you live and learn, and now I dont even believe in souls...
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Re: Help With How To Summon
1. Get a picture of Lilith or a statue or anything that can represent her. The image you get should be ancient if possible or a statue that is an accurate copy of an ancient statue. These images will be true ritual images.Lucifer wrote: I have been inquiring about Lilith, and I think she is a succubus. I want her to manifest herself to me for the intent of performing ritual sex, the purpose of which is still not clear to me. If I can find another succubus or demon, I Wouldn't mind.
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2. Perform whatever preparation ritual you use. I suggest something to prepare and protect the circle, with banishing rituals.
3. Undress and evoke her presence.
4. Present your genitals to her. Allow her to take control of your genitals. Concentrate on her to the exclusion of everything else.
5. If she wishes, she will take you. You may have to try different positions in front of her. If this does not work let me know.
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Funniest thing i've seen today .. "present your genitals".
Why don't you just dig a hole in the dirt and present your genitals .. so you can have intercourse with mother nature.. that's a sugestion.. or you can just go feed a bunch of homeless kids .. i bet that's alot more produtive.
Why don't you just dig a hole in the dirt and present your genitals .. so you can have intercourse with mother nature.. that's a sugestion.. or you can just go feed a bunch of homeless kids .. i bet that's alot more produtive.
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You have not responded for 2 months, so it may be too late.Lucifer wrote:Hi everyone,
I want her to manifest herself to me for the intent of performing ritual sex, the purpose of which is still not clear to me. If I can find another succubus or demon, I Wouldn't mind.
But... if you can establish contact with Lilith or another entity, which might not always come in a visible evocation, you can then ask that demon to retrieve your soul for you.
Or the demon might provide you with another even better soul.
Regarding evocation itself, you can learn to do this himself. It takes reading and preparation but unless you do it yourself, you will always be following a borrowed destiny.
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I'm only halfway familiar with the realm of magicks and energies, but I have to ask:
How do you know for certain that you have indeed "sold your soul"?
Everything you've said only makes me feel that whatever is haunting you is "attempting" to drive you towards damnation. Unless you've officially made a pact with someone or something, I don't see any logical reason why you would be damned.
Just my two cents.
Zeon
EDIT: Sorry for the necro, I felt compelled to share this opinion.
How do you know for certain that you have indeed "sold your soul"?
Everything you've said only makes me feel that whatever is haunting you is "attempting" to drive you towards damnation. Unless you've officially made a pact with someone or something, I don't see any logical reason why you would be damned.
Just my two cents.
Zeon
EDIT: Sorry for the necro, I felt compelled to share this opinion.
And when the eye of the storm arrives, the flock shall emerge and prepare, for though ultimate damnation await, they shall not give in to sorrow and despair, but look to the horizon with faith, perserverance, and determination.