Sigil Affecting a Third Party

[Albion]

Hi All

Accordinging to what I have read and discussed, sigils are designed to work on the operator - a bit like a super affirmation if you like. This may, however, be for the benefit of someone else who has been part of the process.

So I can create a sigil "I will get laid tonight"

I can also work with (non chaote) Fred with the intention of helping him getting laid tonight. This process will entail working with him so he creates a sigil "I will get laid tonight which I charge etc.

The question: Fred asks me to help. I go away and create a sigil "Fred will get laid tonight". I charge it etc.

Would this work also? I'm talking about process at this point in time not ethics.

Albion

[Clockwork Ghost]

Yes, it would work as long as the sigil clearly has the Statement of Intent (SOI) that Fred will get laid tonight and is fired through gnosis. Fred then gets handed the sigil, views it and sort of activates it himself again through viewing it. You then both forget about the fired and activated sigil and go out for a night on the town in an area where you can get Fred laid and your chances of getting Fred laid will be increased through the sigil.

[Lectus]

Yes, it would work as long as the sigil clearly has the Statement of Intent (SOI) that Fred will get laid tonight and is fired through gnosis. Fred then gets handed the sigil, views it and sort of activates it himself again through viewing it. You then both forget about the fired and activated sigil and go out for a night on the town in an area where you can get Fred laid and your chances of getting Fred laid will be increased through the sigil.

So, are you saying that the sigil can't work for another person if he/she doesn't charge it too?

Can't you use a sigil for healing another person much like a voodoo doll?

[adawehi]

Yes it's possible but didn't work that well for me when I tried it. It worked much better for me to transfer energy from myself into the person I was healing with my hands. I laid one hand on top of the other at the V the rib cage creates in the center of the chest and visualized healing energy transferring from me to the patient. For me the energy is white. Others prefer green or blue. It also works better if the person you're trying to heal has given their permission to you to work your magic on them. Take into account the malady because it may require more than one shot no differently than some things take more than one visit to the doc. Medical advice and intervention shouldn't be cut out of the equation either. Your magic is then coupled with the magic the doc is administering sooooo. [thumbup]