Magical objects in ceremony

[Khelric]

If this is something covered elsewhere, I apologize.

I'd like to know if any evokers have had success in their endeavors by the use of charged objects (jewelery, trinkets, clothing, anything). If so, what makes the best materials for ritual? I know some ceremonial magic calls for specific rings and even swords, cups and more. My interest is with Necromancy and despite incubation being the primary form of communication, as opposed to direct evocation, has anyone found any particular objects being helpful in focusing the mind for conjuration that doesn't call for specific tools? Also, how does one go about charging these objects once they've been acquired?

Thanks in advance.

[wazzup]

If this is something covered elsewhere, I apologize.

I'd like to know if any evokers have had success in their endeavors by the use of charged objects (jewelery, trinkets, clothing, anything). If so, what makes the best materials for ritual? I know some ceremonial magic calls for specific rings and even swords, cups and more. My interest is with Necromancy and despite incubation being the primary form of communication, as opposed to direct evocation, has anyone found any particular objects being helpful in focusing the mind for conjuration that doesn't call for specific tools? Also, how does one go about charging these objects once they've been acquired?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Khelric,

I've read a lot of your posts. You are well educated in matters of the Occult. However, book learning can only take you so far...may I suggest you get out of your very comfy armchair and start practicing to see what happens, instead of asking others...please do not take offense at this response, but I see a theme running through the majority of your posts, whereby you want to illicit others experiences....

As for Necromancy - I'm a total novice, but it does attract me, and I'm downloading all the texts I can find on this subject, and will get back to you when I've managed to read up on the subject - any book/author suggestions?

[Khelric]

I certainly don't take any offense, Wazzup. When I come to a public place with potentially conflicting ideas or styles, I delete any sensitivity I have.

Perhaps jumping right into something is the best way to go, but I'm taking the next step in my understanding of the process by asking for people's personal experience. A book can teach you principle, but people can teach you theory.

If you read my first post, you'd see I'm not really in the social position to actually perform any kind of ritual or ceremony (roommates with highly conflicting ideologies combined with small living space). For now, the gathering of information to benefit my future work is the best that I can do until more suitable living arrangements make themelves present.

Thank you for the words of encouragement though.

[wazzup]

I'm coming at this from a completely diametrical position - I've been practicing my Craft for over 4 decades, and it's only recently I've started to delve into books on the subject...sorry I sounded harsh. It wasn't my intention I do assure you. Remember, that every time you put forth questions on "how do you do xxx", you are going to come up with as many differing responses as to the numbers of people responding. We all do things our own way, some depending on their path. No one is absolutely right, just, well, different. That's why is told you to stop reading and start practicing....

Apropos your living situation, I don't see that as problematic. You just have to think outside the box....or, in your case, outside your home. The countryside has a lot to offer in terms of fresh air, peace and the all important solitude, wherein you can practice your craft undisturbed till your hearts content!

May I ask what practical experience you do have? Sorry, if this is too nosey, but it would help to know how much, or how little, accumulated learning you've been able to put into practice. I'll take it as read that you ground, centre and shield. What about visualization? Have you mastered that? If you have, that's brilliant. I know a lot of folk have difficulty with this skill. IMHO these are the foundations for any Craft/Magick workings. They also don't require any accoutrements.

[Khelric]

The only practical work that I've done is working on mental focus and creative visualization. When I got serious with the occult, I worked for about a year with Liber MMM to improve my mind for the work I would undertake. When I was a young teen, I played with tarot and I say played because I knew nothing of magic. It proved to be the portal of my curiosity and would lead me to ponder the images upon the cards and what force truly guided them. I've never wanted to get too into ritual without a proper grounding of knowledge and in another post on here, I mention trying to come up with a fusion of belief to suit my needs based upon polytheism of certain pantheon aspects. I ask the people because I know that there will be so many answers. I'm not looking for one, I'm looking for as many as I can. Study has been important to me and along the way, I've embraced ideologies and cast others aside. I seek to find that which rests comfortably with me so that I may ultimately create my own path to walk.

However, I believe we've gone a bit off-topic from what information I was hoping to obtain here. Perhaps we can speak more of the subject matter.

[wazzup]

Back on Topic:

The only tools I use are my Tarot Cards and my mind. Charging any object - once cleansed, I'll put it in my hand and focus on it for as long as it takes for me to feel the tingling of the object strengthening. I can never remember which hand is supposed to receive the item - being ambidextrous it's a case of either/or for myself, but when I can kick start my memory, I'll get back to you with that information. I've used this technique in my spell workings for protection as well as other things too numerous to mention, and it seems to have the desired effect.

[Nahemah]

I'd like to know if any evokers have had success in their endeavors by the use of charged objects (jewelery, trinkets, clothing, anything). If so, what makes the best materials for ritual? I know some ceremonial magic calls for specific rings and even swords, cups and more. My interest is with Necromancy and despite incubation being the primary form of communication, as opposed to direct evocation, has anyone found any particular objects being helpful in focusing the mind for conjuration that doesn't call for specific tools? Also, how does one go about charging these objects once they've been acquired?

I don't evoke much if ever at all.I do journey using trance/dance or other methods,including sometimes physically going to liminal spaces,where most of the discourses between me and the Spirits occur.Crossroads/crossed roads,riverside,parks,bridges and doorways :literally:doorway framed spaces can be used as a gate between worlds/realities also,at a pinch.Liminal times work best for me,here we have 'The Gloaming' when the Sun has set and the Moon's not yet risen or vice versa and these times are particularly good for this kind of working,in my own experience.

I travel lucidly through the dreamscape,to these spaces,gateways and places too,occasionally I 'll use time slipping [tachypsychia,as it's medically defined],as a means of altering perception/spatial awareness.I also use entheogenic assistance sometimes,depending on need/occasion.

I have loads of fripperies,nick nacks and objets that I can choose from if I wish to objectify my focus/charge up items etc.I collect all sorts and family and friends get me cool things from their travels,that they 'just know' I 'd love to have.

I don't find it necessary to use objects most of the time,but I do find having a 'living link' to someone I 'm working for/with or otherwise concerned about can be most helpful.I often gift stones or crystals to these folk,with the reinforcement that this brings,holding the stone makes them feel better[largely placebo,but very effective in trauma related workings] or stronger or it reminds them I 'm there with them,in spirit if not in flesh,at least.
I will 'blood ' that stone prior to use,it will have been chosen,often subconsciously,either by the person or myself, and I have the person rub their hands vigorously over/around it upon giving it to them,as this transfers energy from them into the piece t opersonalise it and links them back with me.Blood,sweat and tears are more than a metaphor in my world,lol.

More later,prolly.I can get rather rambly,is this the kind of information you find helpful?

I n the meantime,Here is a pic of one of my many V.cool objets,that my mate Dave brought back from Tunisia for me,photo is a bit shit,cos of candle reflections,soz:

[Khelric]

Nahemah,

This is definitely very helpful. I use the term evocation as a general sweeping term to define the contact of an entity outside of our immediate plane of consciousness, not just binding something to a physically visible form. In my study, I've read of the use of a deceased person's clothing or most cherished object as a focus for work with them. This of course makes sense, but I was curious as to the property of certain stones, metals, trinkets or particular shapes (for instance, while working with liber mmm, visualizing triangles felt much more natural than squares or circles) that help facilitate a more successful work. Perhaps some of these are crutches, but I'm more than willing to admit that for the time being, I have use of them.

You mention blooding stones? What exactly is this process and with the application of bodily fluids to feed objects energy, is this just as straight forward as it seems?

[Nahemah]

I use the term evocation as a general sweeping term to define the contact of an entity outside of our immediate plane of consciousness, not just binding something to a physically visible form.

Ah,ok cool.
I was thinking of it in terms of triangles,circles and summoning as when I see 'evoke' written on the page, it usually conjures up images of formal and Ceremonial ritual to me.

In my study, I've read of the use of a deceased person's clothing or most cherished object as a focus for work with them. This of course makes sense, but I was curious as to the property of certain stones, metals, trinkets or particular shapes (for instance, while working with liber mmm, visualizing triangles felt much more natural than squares or circles) that help facilitate a more successful work. Perhaps some of these are crutches, but I'm more than willing to admit that for the time being, I have use of them.

Psychometry of objects: living link,in the case of a deceased person this is a link that crosses the veil between life and death.Very effective,I'd say.

I have a glass pyramid sitting on my desk atm,it's great for drawing energy into a point,or inversely utilised,spreading focus out,in ritual use.Light refracting properties are something I use a lot,with objects.I trance easily through scrying/soft focus gazing and I find the light of candles with arrangements of several refracting objects provide a very useful magick enhancing environment.This is when I 'm working at home,which I don't do that frequently,but I do enjoy my objects for their aesthetics as well as their usefulnesses.

I recently aquired a crystal ball from hubby as a gift too,it's sitting on my altar along side my glass cube and two of my octagonal cut crystal tealight holders,shape and form are important considerations.
Meh,crutches,I like these things,they are shiney and I like to work and play with them,almost purely for the 'cos I can' fun and exploration elements.

You mention blooding stones? What exactly is this process and with the application of bodily fluids to feed objects energy, is this just as straight forward as it seems?

As it says,cut and squeeze basically,it is pretty straighforward,physically speaking,but common sense should apply,though of course ..no slicing and dicing,everyone who wants to blood objects or use their blood in magick ahould take the time to research and learn how to do it safely before trying it out. [thumbup]

[Khelric]

Nahemah,

Firstly, I'd like to apologize for not commenting on your very cool picture. I've got, for the time being, *gasps* dialup! So it didn't load the first time I came to this thread. I love it though.

This kind of info is just what I was looking for. It's honest, practical, and thought provoking. Thank you for always taking the time to listen to my questions and give a thought out answer.