Powerfull Entity

[Whyhaveyouforsakenme]

Okay,
Now I have a huge problem I don't know if this is the place to post it but I can't see where else to put it.
I met an old friend who I hadn't seen for ages she was a friend of mine during my time at school.
So we talked a little and we started meeting each other from time to time for a chat.
I would sometimes notice that she had a slightly bruised face or red markings on it.
I asked her several times about them but she would only tell me things like I slipped in the shower and other excuses.
Then last Tuesday it was really badly bruised and I asked her about it ,she fell down the stairs she said.
I asked her if her boyfriend or partner was maybe hitting her but she said no ( she is solo btw).
She then confessed that there were wierd things going on in her house.
Something kept hitting her from time to time when she was home on her own it had all started when her Grandad had moved into a community flat.
She said on the night before she was pushed down the stairs. She had plans to go on holiday from new years eve till the end of this week so I offered to look after the flat and she entrusted me with the keys to her house.

Now then Yesterday i thought why not spend the night there and see if something happens.Now I was going to rely on the feeling I get which does not tell me much but it shows me if something is there and if it is "good" I get a very warm feeling in my chest or "bad" I get an umcomforable feeling. As I entered the House I felt nothing at all which surprised me a little.
So I watched some Tv and cooked me some food but nothing unusual happened. I decided to sleep on the couch as I didn't feel comfortable about sleeping in somebody elses bed.
Now after my prayer I meditated for a while I do this every night now before I sleep to try and feel things around me. Now during my meditation I could feel this uncomfortable feeling ever so slightly.The longer I tried to concentrate on it the more I could feel it. Then I got really angry I walked into the hall and shouted what can be roughly translated to "You bloody coward! Screw you! To afraid to face a man ? Can you only pick on defenceless women you gutless *#?*'?.
Now this is were it gets wierd. Before the echo of my voice had faded I heared a loud bang from upstairs which made me shiver.And then something that felt like a person launching himself at me made me fall against the wall behind me. I prayed to god to save me and I was really scared. I got up and wanted to see where the bang had come from I could hardly walk because my legs were so wobbly and I was shivering. I turned on the lights and went upstairs. Now what I found was this:

Even though it was late I phoned a friend of mine and told him a had a little "accident".
When he got back I had somewhat calmed myself down and he helped push the cupboard back against the wall. I had a look at the legs of the cupboard but they are still intact so it must have been either pulled or pushed.

After that I packed my stuff and left.
I didn't go there today but tomorrow I want to return and sprinkle some holy water over every inch of the house.

Now what in Gods name has such power in our World ?
And how do I get rid of this thing ?

[LandOfShadows]

Whyhaveyouforsakenme,

I run a site called http://www.P-I-N.co.nr if you do manage to capture any of this on tape or gain images I will happily place them on my site.
(Not that it helps much, but I can at least ask others for their input for you and any evidence you have the better).

Few questions...
Has there been any Ouija board or Occult rituals done in the house ?
Has there ever been a voice or a sense of presance to the attacks ?
The Grandad, was he sound of mind ? (IE was he lashing out or hitting, loosing his memory that sort of thing, dementure etc)
Does your friend have any feeling on what the cause of this may be ?

As for getting rid of it, banishing rituals for many energies can be found on the forum and the NET... like the LBRP: http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... sh#p460876

I use the ring pass not or a varient of, when doing any occult work.
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/ocg ... ingpassnot
(This stops the mind from being attacked, not physical attacks like you are having).

Energies that can damage the soul after time can cause physical harm, low level banishing spells maye help reduce the attacks but it may have gone past that, others on the forum may be more adept then I in giving advise.

My advice would be to find where you feel the energy is greatest and seal that area firstly with a rock salt line to each entrance/exit, wait util the energy or feeling you get is at it lowest then cleanse that area of the house, using your holy water, and methods you and your friend may wish to try. Then use the LBRP...

Many of these energy based attacks actually use your own energy... you may gain head aches and feel drained if this is the case, it is about refusing to give your energy to the entity. So getting your mind in the right state first is key, and challenging it like you did isn't a great idea as it now has your energy as a frequency to use now also... never invite energy to manifest when its negative would be my greatest suggestion, but you have already done so.

So any actions you feel confident in will reduce or remove the energy, I hope will now close that door/invite.
You need make the energy know its not welcome, ask it to leave, try and use your postive energy to force it to the room you seal off, then re-cope and go at it again, try turning that bad feeling you get into a better one, raise your vibartional level within and force the energy out of the house, have your friend do the same.

Don't show any weakness or doubt that this wont work, be confident and firm and sure of the resolve, both your and your friend.

Other than that... see what others suggest.

LoS
Steve

[Occultess]

I don't speak from experience or anything...or even knowledge actually, but....

1. Was the granddad living with her before he moved to the community flat?

One thing that came to mind was that perhaps, granddad was keeping this spirit at bay and now he's not there to do so. Or, otherwise, maybe the spirit really liked granddad and is angry at the woman (perhaps he blames her for him losing his friend or making him leave or something).

If it's not the grandfather in some form or fashion (as I assume the person asking "was he lashing out?" was wondering about) perhaps a look at the history of the place she lives (house or apartment number) would help in figuring out who this ghost, poltergeist, or whatever he may be considered is and other things about him that may give you some clues as to how to proceed, what he may need, etc.

[LandOfShadows]

Occultess,

One of my questions was on the same vein...I have investigated old mental institues for paranomal activity in the past and their security staff reported being hit by invisable forces in a same manner. A medium came in as said that the souls of people would feel trapped in a body if the brain was broken or damaged to the point that the soul detatches almost like being in the astral but with an anchor to the body, so unable to wonder too far... they become fustrated and to make them selves known lash out, not always meaning to cause harm just gain attention or prove they are still there.

My thought was perhaps the Grandad's mind has done the same thing...

The Medium who said this sounds very confident in what they said, it sort of makes sense to me... so its an avenue for a question.

And if it is the case, could be worth seeing if rest bite could be arranged, bring Grandad back... or speak to him... who knows... might be nothing to do with that... hence the other questions.

[happy2]

LoS
Steve

[Whyhaveyouforsakenme]

Hey sorry for not posting anything yesterday but I was knackered after work (were doing inventory work).

In my Lunchbreak today I read an article on the Mansion which is near the house. Now the mansion was built in 1304 and the house was were the servants slept and lived and is about 200metres away from the mansion so I assume it was built at around the same time.

And to answer your other question Occultess he was and from what I can tell still sain and he moved out because he said he no longer felt well in such a big house with the stairs and that.

Now I cannot contact my friend on her Vacation so I took matters into my own hands
I visited the Granddad today after work as I know where the community flats are and I know his surname so I just checked the doorsigns till I found his.
I told him some bogus story about being very interersted in the history of the house.
He told me everything he knew (wasn't much) he mostly told me what repairs his father had made and that he later had it renovated in 2004. After he told me all about the central heating and other stuff. I just blatantly asked about the "Ghost".
He looked at me like he was going to faint and he asked me if I had seen him. I just went along with it and said I had. He then told me that he was in some ways glad that I had seen him. Because he thought he was going insane and imagining things.
He then told me it was no Ghost but the devil himself. I asked him how he knew for sure and he said because once when his wife was very ill and he had prayed for days and days to no avail. He cursed god for being so cruel and that he would do anything to save her. About a week later 2 days before his 24th birthday he was awake at night he said he didn't know if he had been awake all the time or just woken up. but he said he could see a man standing next to his bed (he was lying on his side facing away from the bed) he said he tried to move to scream but nothing he couldn't move a muscle no matter how hard he tried he couldn't even move his eyelids. He said the closer the man came the more he said he knew about him. He said he would describe him to me as an Arrogant person someone who would duell over even the most trivial things.
But he also said he knew it was embodyment of evil.
He said the man had a wide grin on his face and to make a long story short offered him the life of his wife for "etwas Kraft jeden Tag" which I suspect is energie each day for the rest of his life. He said even though he could not speak he accepted the offer and that a few months later his wife recovered gradually.
Now he told me that the next day he woke up with severe headaches and he thought it had all been a dream but whenver he would doubt the reality of that moment something would happen like he would see a shadow of man or a glimpse of his figure or face. He also said that from that day on he had migraines a lot and that he had to eat and sleep more but he did not gain weight. He told me in the end he thought he was going mad and that's why he moved he didn't want his daughter to have witness him becoming demented but he said once he moved it had stopped. I didn't tell him anything about his daughters problems or what I had experienced. He even thanked me for proving to him that the "devil" as he calls him really was there.

Now we have two possible options here:
1. The man is mad/demented and the entity is unrelated to the story. But he believed himself to be crazy can a crazy person comprehend that he is crazy ?
2. We have an Entity with about 50 years worth of Energy (not my favorite because I'm going to have to deal with it.)

Okay now this could explain why the Entity unless challenged is only hurtfull towards my friend.
Maybe it feels betrayed because the bargain was not fullfilled but why didn't it stick to the old man and stay behind at the house?
If it has that much energy where is it ?
Now the most ironic thing is he was in the same situation I am in now. I too feel betrayed by my god and I search for healing maybe this will make me vulnerable.

Now I have had enough of this when I get up today I am going to try what Land of Shadows suggested and hope for the best. (Can I use regular salt instead of rock salt ?)

God bless you,
Mark 15:34

[LandOfShadows]

Hi,

Some table salt is more chemical than natural... I would say Rock Salt or a Natural Sea Salt of some kind, thats the best barrier...
Or I have used Vermaculite before, its used in Trantula tanks... Getting from reptile shops.

Cursing toward the devine in hate or malice could have simply cursed the space he was in, if his whole body and vibration at the time was pure hate he perhaps injected that into the envirmoent around him and in turn perhaps summoned something evil and negative. There is all sorts that may have caused it... Simply guessing, I wouldn't want to say you or him from your experiences are crazy, just as I have heard these many times over and witnessed things of a nature not too far from your own.

LoS
Steve

[TheSeeker]

(Can I use regular salt instead of rock salt ?)

Sea Salt.
You want salt that has not been treated with iodine.

[Q789]

MY mother used to do that.. have you tried talking to it, acknowledge his/her existence?
Build a small shrine, give him/her gifts.

give it a place in your home, he/she is scared.

[LandOfShadows]

Hi,

Try the steps given... stay confident in a resolve.
If you have an electornic tape recorder or MP3 recorder have that on as you ask the energy to leave, they often pick up voices and replies to questions... Simply ask "I want you to leave, do you understand ?" Pause for an answer "Your not wanted here we want you to leave, will you leave NOW ?" Pause for a moment and then say "I am not asking you to leave I am telling you to leave, come from where you came, your not welcome or wanted here". Be Firm !! End on a line like that, not a question as your inviting an answer and inviting them to remain if left un~answered.

You may not gain anything on the tape, you may just feel if the energy has left or not... I hope it leaves on the above... In my experience its always been enough, but I am always 100% confident, I would do it for you if you lived in England.

If you do gain answers on the tape, please share the MP3 file... if the answers you get are negative then at least you know the banishing may not have worked, and in that case you may need a medium or spiritualist. And if you do get negative replies, I would still leave the room sealed where you feel the energy is strongest limiting where it can go in the house or where it holds and draws power from. It will do far less damage. Wait a few days and ask other questions, try and gain a name, when you have a name you can use that in more advanced banishings.

Let us know how all this goes.

The building a shrine or offering of gifts, sounds odd, but I have seen this work to, forming a bond/friendship even to energies that are negative can turn things around, but it also opens the door to contact of another kind, negative energies such as this can draw on your positive energy and make you feel down and depressed, I wouldn't personally go down that avenue with an energy thats already crossed the line and assulted you.

(I have no real faith, I do know there is more to life than this physical realm, I just dont assign my self to any one religion, for all religions are books of truth, I find parts in each I relate to, your God has faith in you, everything is energy, break anything into its smallest denomiantion its energy, God is no different and by this God is with you and is you, in part... we are all linked and part of the same stream. So respect this energy, it shall respect you, ask it to leave, be firm, be fair and it should leave, love your self, love your God/life/devine/fellow man and you will beat this).

LoS
Steve

[Whyhaveyouforsakenme]

Okay guys,
I did my best I "locked" it into the small room where the cupboard fell over but I can't get rid of it.
I tried first to ask it to leave then I became more demanding but it didn't work.
It also attacked me again while I was laying out the Salt it scratched me on my back. (I'll upload a pic of the scratch tommorow).
Also I recorded some audio with my mobile phone but I couldn't hear anythink unusual but I'll upload it anyways.
My Friend has been back since Sunday morning I told her not to go into the room because I "locked" it in and since then she hasn't been attacked so at least I accomplished something.

Any suggestions on how to permanently get rid of it and how long can the Salt stay on the ground ?

[LandOfShadows]

Hi,

Just don't break the salt line... Lay fresh on top if needs be, make it thicker.

If its managed to scratch you then its perhaps more powerful than most I have encountered, worst I have come across is being push, pulled and slapped...
Look for a spritual medium or demonologist, be nice to find a combo of the two... search the Net for people in your region.

What you can do now that the negative energy is out of way is focus on making your positive energy higher, and you could get someone to bless each room, these are still lower things, they help, but your dealing with something thats greater than I have come across.

In the room where this thing is now housed, are there any items it could be linked to ?
Something the Grandad may have had on his person, normally made of silver or brass that this thing could be attached to ?

If its attached to an object, removing the object and placing it into a box of the same material and filling it wait salt (So the object contained doesn't touch the sides) can entrap it to the box, make sure its then sealed REAL good... now the hard part... Getting rid of it... Technically you need someone to take it from you while-fully, gift it to them, but they have to be aware of whats contained.

Just throwing it away, should someone open it the being could find its way back to you/your friend, being you was the last person who technically owned/touched the object.

I will take it from you, so I guess if you can entrap it you could mail it to me.
I will never open it or part with it.
(I have a couple already).

See the parts on Banishing and making Cursed Objects.
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... 46&t=33696

LoS

[cactusjack543]

i sorta call this pandoras box of which i have a few welcomed ongoing guests leave behind in my home trincets like bullets lol ty all for this new knowledge salt with no iodine?

[LandOfShadows]

Cactusjack,

I like using this stuff myself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiculite
It works very well in cursed and charmed boxes.
Rock Salt/Sea Salt (Like the stuff for Marinefish tanks and Aquariums) works well.

LoS

[cactusjack543]

so if i got salt in my banna box filled with peanut shells bank papers cups with cigareetes in it cast baddie people replies at forums in my box you meen i could trap their soul in my box with rock salt.

your all so kind ty

[LandOfShadows]

Cactusjack,

Errrr No... lol

Demonic/Angelic energies are normally bound in a realm off set to our own, they only really cross over if someone in the physical world provides a physical anchor. Human souls are already bound to the body, to take a human soul and bind that to a box would be near on impossible as far as I am aware. You could perhaps curse a person's soul, but then the physical body would then need to die to release the soul for you to entrap... but this is all just speculation... basically no...LOL

For Demonic/Angelic energies you can either anchor them to a person or object, dpending on your needs, and this can at times be done by complete accident, and thats what I feel may have happend here... like the Grandad could have cursed at God, raising a hand with a ring or watch on it... something that this curse has now manifested to.

LoS

[Nahemah]

so if i got salt in my banna box filled with peanut shells bank papers cups with cigareetes in it cast baddie people replies at forums in my box you meen i could trap their soul in my box with rock salt.

You can trap or 'bind' energy/intent in your box,Jack.For example if the message should contain curse or hexing energies,or be particularly nasty in some way,then those 'negativities' can be bound up or trapped in the box. [thumbup]

[cactusjack543]

could i pay spiritual money buy out the assets of set and cos control there spiritual propertise in an effort to stabilize witchcraft as a whole just because im cappable of it you think serenity would back off

[Serenitydawn]

could i pay spiritual money buy out the assets of set and cos control there spiritual propertise in an effort to stabilize witchcraft as a whole just because im cappable of it you think serenity would back off

back off? What did I do?

[cactusjack543]

you know what amazes me medea assets and its bull i cant play diablo and use jsp anymore but the funds are never ending lol

[cactusjack543]

serenity i was wandering did you make a deal with gravity to make a reply. im buying time for an hour at the library computer. clever bot and me had fun talking about taking over the world its like war games the movie. ya know gov justifies in history the edge of gambling with the effect of anilating the human race i just choose to be apart of it. if i told you all witches backed you up under baddie control on your reply on seperation i suppose instantly you would take over the planet. so witchcraft cant be trusted for their own survival irobot. jan 1st time runs backwards. every human has the right of trust seriously. the main trust i have is occult forums. i suppose know trust is no where oh the sweet taste of revenge and the limits people go.

know my question to you?

if every witch and baddie together on earth backup in history you could use for a plate in war starting know could i except to have it till this becomes erased. one day ill go to hell oh lust power and lust. count with me 1 2 3 go pitter patter lets get at er. gl serenity. fear is extreamely facinating on bravery within mankind but athiest ignorance also exists

[Serenitydawn]

War games is a good movie, haven't seen it in a long time. [thumbup] Take over the world, sounds like fun. We all lust for power, I think it's a natural thing. Fear is also natural, while some of it serves a purpose such as keeping you from jumping off a cliff...the fear that chains us and keeps us from ascending needs to be annihilated. [eg]

[Whyhaveyouforsakenme]

Okay I'm finally back I was hospitalized for the past month.

Here is the promised photo of the scratches:




Don't ask how but they still haven't healed.

My recording done with my phone (can't hear anything unusual):
http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/4497943/file.html

[LandOfShadows]

Hi,

Nasty little scratches...

OK... So, did you manage to banish the energy or find an object it may be linked to...?

Whats happening know in the flat...

LoS

[Whyhaveyouforsakenme]

It's as it was she puts fresh layers of Salt down as I instructed her and that keeps it in there somehow.
The room as I said before is the one with cupboard which is basically just that piece of wood and some towels.
There is nothing else in there.
She says she's not experiencing any beatings anymore so I'm guessing it's still in that room.

And about the Demonologist. The only thing we have in my area is a card reader.
To be honest I'm not really satisfied with this temporary solution but it keeps it at bay.

[LandOfShadows]

Whyhaveyouforsakenme,

Many entities like this feed off of fear and negative emmotions... Keeping it at bay could help reduce the verocity of the entity... and it may leave or become that weak you wont even know its there.

To be honest if you have tried all I have suggested then I am out of ideas, apart from the temp solution you now have.

LoS