break up spell?

[dancing-with-dragons]

I am asking whether or not it is possible to use magick to break up a relationship between YOU and someone else (NOT two other people) . And no, I do not need such a spell. Im simply curious as to whether or not this is possible.

[Asurendra]

I would point out that using magick to overcome the will of another is black magic. If there is an attempt to drive someone off, that could be crossing into that territory. It can be a sticky situation and should be thought about very carefully.

[dancing-with-dragons]

Asurendra. Thanks for the reply! I had been taught that there is no such thing as white or black magick, just magick. But I'm begenning to question that.

Still though, how would affecting the will of another through magick be different from affecting ones will without it? We do it all the time. Parents do it. Government, friends, etc.

[Asurendra]

There are researchers, such as Michael Tsarion & Jordan Maxwell, who agree with your last point about society and how pervasive Black Magic is. I find it interesting you would retreat into relativism. Yes, magick in itself, is neutral but that does not mean that all magical acts are neutral.
Personally, unless you are defending yourself or someone else I think it is best to try and focus on a situation and seek a positive result for all involved (if possible) rather than on individuals. You should always try and be honest with yourself and listen to your conscience.

Here is a program for your consideration hosted by a successful and advanced Ceremonial Magician:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-hermet ... -magicians

[dancing-with-dragons]

Thanks again, Asurendra. I'll look into that. I went through a breakep several months ago. Breaking up is hard to do. (pun intended ) . Im not the type of person to hurt someone, even when necessary, unfortunately.

[The Glass Wizard]

its entirely possible
i really dont see why it would have to be considered black magic,
you are ending a relationship between yourself and another individual why would you waste the extra time and effort trying to change their will when you can just change your own and stop talking to them
you are just as much a part of the relationship as the other person
if its your will to end it thats how it will go
if you dont want to further a relationship you dont have to

[Horusero]

Now I am a big fan of psychology and see it as magick as well... this is something called a boyfriend destroyer.... you would normally use it on your desired person if they where in a relationship..and obviously it doesn't have to be a "boyfriend" destroyer, you set the direction with your words... essentially it gets the gears turning in their head that they need a change from something in their life:

You: "Hey you, how's it going?? How was your day??"

Them: "Blah blah blah...How was yours?"

You: "It was good... Actually wait no y'know what it wasn't really that gooooood... It was more.. comfortable? Lately I have really just been feeling like I am just doing the same habitually thing over and over.. things I like but I just feel like I need a change, something new and exciting in my life. You know when YOU FEEL LIKE GETTING OUT OF SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE INTIMATE WITH? Like YOU'RE RELATIONSHIPS ARE DWINDLING? Maybe not WITH THE PEOPLE YOU USED TO KNOW AND USED TO LOVE but THE THINGS YOU USED TO DO? Like YOU FEEL YOU NEED A VACTION FROM ALL THIS? THESE (point at self) HABITS??"...

Phase 2 (identity stuff): "That is the moment when you GO TO THE PLACE IN YOUR MIND where you can IMAGINE NEW POSSIBILITIES and SEE YOURSELF FORMING ALL THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU WANTED TO FORM BUT WERE BLOCKED BY THESE (point at self) THINGS AND THESE HABITS?? Today I stepped into that place... I just don't anymore... sorry I'm ranting hahaha soo funny moving on...erm... Want to watch a movie again?"

This one is specifically directed at making your own lover have a want for more than she has... er sumpdin...

[Horusero]

and since there is all this sqwabbling about magickal taxonomy above I will put this bluntly:

This is lesser magick, and would probably be pitch black if you framed it this way
.... or maybe you are freeing some future messiah from a truly abusive and destructive dead end relationship who knows...

[Lucius]

Hmmm, thing is, I think there are two arguments to this.

Firstly, I was about to rage until I read the clarification that it was between the OP and his/her "partner".

Firstly, to address the OP's point

Im simply curious as to whether or not this is possible.

This is a fair enough question, after all the crazy #$%& I've seen magic do, I'll tell you that with magic, trust me, anything is possible. You just need to figure out how.

Secondly, for me what I consider black magic is very simple, anything which affects the free will of another, as others have said before I. So yes, even though this is your relationship, it is still in my books affecting free will.

Affecting another's free will, trust me, never ends well for the victim, no matter in what way. The reason is, that even though you are affecting what the victim perceives they want, short of an inception (which is possible) you cannot truly change what they want. And eventually, their feelings will explode, their body, mind and heart, will have a sudden, lash reaction against your magic and 2 things will happen.

First, all their subconscious willpower will be targeted at you, not good. Secondly, they'll be left confused, helpless and feeling depressed or worse.

So in short, yes it is black magic.

Finally,

This is lesser magick, and would probably be pitch black if you framed it this way

I 100% agree, it's not tricky to do. What's tricky is to realize why it's not a good idea

Have a good day folks,
Lucius.

[PrinceOfNeptune]

Why on earth would you waste energy creating a spell or whatever for something easily achieved through communication.

You don't need to bend reality to get rid of a bad partner.

[The Glass Wizard]

all communication is magic

[sonko]

I am asking whether or not it is possible to use magick to break up a relationship between YOU and someone else (NOT two other people) . And no, I do not need such a spell. Im simply curious as to whether or not this is possible.

I don't want to say this or that, the answer to our question is yes, you can use magic spells to breakup lovers.

[kiss_lamia]

I am asking whether or not it is possible to use magick to break up a relationship between YOU and someone else (NOT two other people) . And no, I do not need such a spell. Im simply curious as to whether or not this is possible.

Depends on how bad the situation is between you and said person, if mild and you just want to end it i suggest trying communication spells and increasing inner strength and courage through magic perhaps. if were talking a bit of psycho again i'd do the first lot again and then maybe a form of banishing or binding but state your intent that you want him/her to leave you in alone and in peace and to get on with his life ect ect.

[sonko]

Asurendra. Thanks for the reply! I had been taught that there is no such thing as white or black magick, just magick. But I'm begenning to question that.

Still though, how would affecting the will of another through magick be different from affecting ones will without it? We do it all the time. Parents do it. Government, friends, etc.

Affecting the will of others with magic is very different from affecting it without magic, with magic you leave no choice for that person whereas without magic at least that person can decide what to do however I personally don't agree that you can suffer anything after using magic if you play around it in the right way.
Back to your question; yes you can breakup from someone using magic, it always works on both sides, if you can get into relationship with magic, you can still work out of it with magic too.