Blending Cthulhu Mythos Magick with other paths
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Blending Cthulhu Mythos Magick with other paths
besides practicing the rituals and working my way though the Simon Necronomicon,I have always been interested in working with the Cthulhu Mythos of H.P. Lovecraft himself,and have thought a bought blending Mr.Lovecrafts Mythos with other paths such as Druidry,Wicca,Voodoo,etc and would like to discuss the possibilities of doing so and how do go about blending the Mythos and it's beliefs etc etc with other paths.
I would also like to share something I found on the Chaosium website that kinda rekindled this interest a lot:
http://catalog.chaosium.com/pages.php?pID=59&CDpath=3
VOODOO AND THE MYTHOS
Previous sections [of Secrets of New Orleans] suggest the intimate, very humanistic world of voodoo lies in stark contrast with the cosmic, alien horror of the Cthulhu Mythos. Keepers may be leery about introducing some of the folksy elements of voodoo into a campaign which has led players to believe that sanity-blasting revelations await their investigators around every corner. This section offers some suggestions for Keepers to incorporate the loa and their followers into the campaign, while still remaining faithful to Lovecraft’s basic concepts.
If the loa are aware of the existence of the Mythos, they would undoubtedly despise them. After all, if human beings are wiped off the earth, the loa would have no one to worship them. As deities friendly to humankind, the loa could be persuaded to assist investigators in their struggles against the Mythos in the form of spells, advice, and clues. Investigators would find hungans and mambos valuable allies if the loa favor their quest, providing hiding places from the authorities and protection in communities under their influence.
Mythos beings are not likely to be known under their true names; it is more probable that a voodooist would refer to them as a subspecies of baka. Hence, Dagon, Cthugha, and Atlach-Nacha are known as “fish-baka”, “fire-baka”, and “spider-baka”, respectively. Bokor are the voodooists with the most frequent contact with baka, and therefore the ones most likely to consort with the Mythos—either as sorcerers occasionally calling on the “baka” for magical knowledge, or as dyed-in-the-wool cultists, using the veneer of voodoo to mask more blasphemous activities. This latter form of bokor is the type most likely to employ servitor races as foils. Investigators will find many voodooists eager to help them purge a Mythos-influenced bokor from their midst.
Another, more sinister possibility exists, however. The loa of the bokor-favored Petro tribe, the non-African, more aggressive and violent family of spirits, may be composed entirely of Mythos entities. In other words, the Petro counterpart of a Rada loa is, in fact, one of the Mythos deities. If this is the case, then the Mythos/Petro counterpart for each of the seven Rada loa listed in “The Loa” section are as follows:
•Papa Agwé—Cthulhu
•Damballah-wèdo—Yig
•Ezili-Freda-Dahomey—Yibb-Tstll
•Father Legba—Yog-Sothoth
•Ogu—Hastur
•Baron Samedi—Nyarlathotep
•Zaca—Shub-Niggurath
Voodooists know these Mythos entities only by their Petro names—Cthulhu is known as Agwé-petro, Yibb-Tstll as Ezili-jé-rouge—but bokor and mambos alike are aware of their existence and fear their power. The Contact Loa spell, when used to summon a Petro loa, invokes a lesser avatar of the Mythos being desired. These avatars, if encountered in dreams or depicted in frescoes, resemble their Rada counterparts, but with grotesque physical characteristics that betray their Mythos origins. For example, Agwé-petro has a majestic beard, like Papa Agwé, but it is a festering mass of tentacles; Ezili-jé-rouge is a woman in a dress, like Ezili-Freda-Dahomey, but has glowing red eyes and a set of Yibb-Tstll’s writhing teats. These avatars may be beseeched and spoken to as any loa, but their responses are a slightly humanized version of the unfathomable desires of their incomprehensible masters, and rarely turn out well for humankind. Honest hungans and mambos infrequently deal with these malevolent deities; Mythos-connected bokor may circumvent the avatars altogether and deal with the Mythos entities directly. The Rada loa are aware of the destructive nature of their Petro cousins, and urge their followers to assist investigators battling the Mythos in any way possible.
Of course, the possibility that the Petro loa are avatars of the Mythos raises several vexing questions. What are the Rada loa? Benign, corrupted versions of Mythos deities, which have warmed to humans over centuries of worship? Are they yet another machination of Nyarlathotep, sent to lure unsuspecting voodooists into false complacency, which will be yanked out from under them when the stars are right, and the Great Old Ones again rule the Earth? Is there some terrifyingly powerful Mythos artifact hidden in Haiti, such as an abandoned mi-go colony, from which the slaves gained the knowledge of Mythos (Petro loa) worship?
I would also like to share something I found on the Chaosium website that kinda rekindled this interest a lot:
http://catalog.chaosium.com/pages.php?pID=59&CDpath=3
VOODOO AND THE MYTHOS
Previous sections [of Secrets of New Orleans] suggest the intimate, very humanistic world of voodoo lies in stark contrast with the cosmic, alien horror of the Cthulhu Mythos. Keepers may be leery about introducing some of the folksy elements of voodoo into a campaign which has led players to believe that sanity-blasting revelations await their investigators around every corner. This section offers some suggestions for Keepers to incorporate the loa and their followers into the campaign, while still remaining faithful to Lovecraft’s basic concepts.
If the loa are aware of the existence of the Mythos, they would undoubtedly despise them. After all, if human beings are wiped off the earth, the loa would have no one to worship them. As deities friendly to humankind, the loa could be persuaded to assist investigators in their struggles against the Mythos in the form of spells, advice, and clues. Investigators would find hungans and mambos valuable allies if the loa favor their quest, providing hiding places from the authorities and protection in communities under their influence.
Mythos beings are not likely to be known under their true names; it is more probable that a voodooist would refer to them as a subspecies of baka. Hence, Dagon, Cthugha, and Atlach-Nacha are known as “fish-baka”, “fire-baka”, and “spider-baka”, respectively. Bokor are the voodooists with the most frequent contact with baka, and therefore the ones most likely to consort with the Mythos—either as sorcerers occasionally calling on the “baka” for magical knowledge, or as dyed-in-the-wool cultists, using the veneer of voodoo to mask more blasphemous activities. This latter form of bokor is the type most likely to employ servitor races as foils. Investigators will find many voodooists eager to help them purge a Mythos-influenced bokor from their midst.
Another, more sinister possibility exists, however. The loa of the bokor-favored Petro tribe, the non-African, more aggressive and violent family of spirits, may be composed entirely of Mythos entities. In other words, the Petro counterpart of a Rada loa is, in fact, one of the Mythos deities. If this is the case, then the Mythos/Petro counterpart for each of the seven Rada loa listed in “The Loa” section are as follows:
•Papa Agwé—Cthulhu
•Damballah-wèdo—Yig
•Ezili-Freda-Dahomey—Yibb-Tstll
•Father Legba—Yog-Sothoth
•Ogu—Hastur
•Baron Samedi—Nyarlathotep
•Zaca—Shub-Niggurath
Voodooists know these Mythos entities only by their Petro names—Cthulhu is known as Agwé-petro, Yibb-Tstll as Ezili-jé-rouge—but bokor and mambos alike are aware of their existence and fear their power. The Contact Loa spell, when used to summon a Petro loa, invokes a lesser avatar of the Mythos being desired. These avatars, if encountered in dreams or depicted in frescoes, resemble their Rada counterparts, but with grotesque physical characteristics that betray their Mythos origins. For example, Agwé-petro has a majestic beard, like Papa Agwé, but it is a festering mass of tentacles; Ezili-jé-rouge is a woman in a dress, like Ezili-Freda-Dahomey, but has glowing red eyes and a set of Yibb-Tstll’s writhing teats. These avatars may be beseeched and spoken to as any loa, but their responses are a slightly humanized version of the unfathomable desires of their incomprehensible masters, and rarely turn out well for humankind. Honest hungans and mambos infrequently deal with these malevolent deities; Mythos-connected bokor may circumvent the avatars altogether and deal with the Mythos entities directly. The Rada loa are aware of the destructive nature of their Petro cousins, and urge their followers to assist investigators battling the Mythos in any way possible.
Of course, the possibility that the Petro loa are avatars of the Mythos raises several vexing questions. What are the Rada loa? Benign, corrupted versions of Mythos deities, which have warmed to humans over centuries of worship? Are they yet another machination of Nyarlathotep, sent to lure unsuspecting voodooists into false complacency, which will be yanked out from under them when the stars are right, and the Great Old Ones again rule the Earth? Is there some terrifyingly powerful Mythos artifact hidden in Haiti, such as an abandoned mi-go colony, from which the slaves gained the knowledge of Mythos (Petro loa) worship?
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Re: Blending Cthulhu Mythos Magick with other paths
It has already been done to some extent. One can find Qabalistic comparisons to these Gods etc., all sorted out and categorized according to the 10 Sephiroth of the Qabalistic Tree of Life. You do not have to be a Qabalist to use this as a means of comparing Gods, and their inherent qualities. Using the Tree of Life, one can cross reference and figure out a system of comparing powers. The Qabalah is a great filing cabinet, and can be used as a method of discovering these subtle connections and placement within a wide range of systems. One simply must know the ruling nature of a God (i.e. Planetary) and find the appropriate Sephira that corresponds. After one has this categorization of Gods, and related Gods across other systems, it is easy to understand how to put such a plan together.
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Re: Blending Cthulhu Mythos Magick with other paths
Well I don't know anything about the Qabalah so i'd end up all confused trying to figure that out.Lord Ferocia wrote:It has already been done to some extent. One can find Qabalistic comparisons to these Gods etc., all sorted out and categorized according to the 10 Sephiroth of the Qabalistic Tree of Life. You do not have to be a Qabalist to use this as a means of comparing Gods, and their inherent qualities. Using the Tree of Life, one can cross reference and figure out a system of comparing powers. The Qabalah is a great filing cabinet, and can be used as a method of discovering these subtle connections and placement within a wide range of systems. One simply must know the ruling nature of a God (i.e. Planetary) and find the appropriate Sephira that corresponds. After one has this categorization of Gods, and related Gods across other systems, it is easy to understand how to put such a plan together.
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Understood. Yet, you don't have to know much about it in order to use it as a measure. I advise you pick up a copy of "777" by Aleister Crowley. In this he provieds charts that cross relate various Gods and qualities for each of the 10 Sephiroth of the Tree of Life. You can use these charts to organize a comparison for the Gods you are talking about. Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah" is a classic, and is a must for anyone who wants a basic understanding of the Qabalah.Well I don't know anything about the Qabalah so i'd end up all confused trying to figure that out.
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Lord Ferocia wrote:Understood. Yet, you don't have to know much about it in order to use it as a measure. I advise you pick up a copy of "777" by Aleister Crowley. In this he provieds charts that cross relate various Gods and qualities for each of the 10 Sephiroth of the Tree of Life. You can use these charts to organize a comparison for the Gods you are talking about. Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah" is a classic, and is a must for anyone who wants a basic understanding of the Qabalah.Well I don't know anything about the Qabalah so i'd end up all confused trying to figure that out.
[shock] I have a copy of 777 by magus Crowley
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Re: Blending Cthulhu Mythos Magick with other paths
Perfect! Now, don't be lazy and get to work!I have a copy of 777 by magus Crowley
Simply take each God in question and find the related Sephira that reflects the same traits, and viola!
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Lord Ferocia wrote:Perfect! Now, don't be lazy and get to work!I have a copy of 777 by magus Crowley
Simply take each God in question and find the related Sephira that reflects the same traits, and viola!
But lazy is the best way..lol
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Yes! That is a fierce demon to be sure! He still stalks about me waiting to pounce! Anyway, I am sure you will accomplish it when you are ready.Hoodoo Boy wrote:Lord Ferocia wrote:Perfect! Now, don't be lazy and get to work!I have a copy of 777 by magus Crowley
Simply take each God in question and find the related Sephira that reflects the same traits, and viola!
But lazy is the best way..lol
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