Bardon's system

[Solving Ennui]

Having trouble finding the actual 10 steps, searched a number of links off of google, occultists unfortunately love to hear themselves talk, and all I have found are endless unwanted commentaries without once the original product being shown...

[Cybernetic_Jazz]

The book 'Initiation Into Hermetics' is the ten steps.

[Solving Ennui]

thanks bunches, I guess I was expected something more condensed

[Cybernetic_Jazz]

The ten steps really aren't ten bulletpoints at all but rather quite a few methods grouped together - hence the need for the book.

Step I is what a lot of people consider the longest/hardest (work-wise albeit it's only 15 pages or so), it includes three meditation exercises, about two or three daily living exercises, and maybe another two or three things that you're supposed to do until you're proficient with them up to a certain extent. The reason there are so many commentaries are that Franz Bardon did two things that made it kind of hard to read - ie. he didn't always make it clear what results you were supposed to get (like with the thought watching I got hung up on his verbiage) and he also talks about doing these exercises for one or two weeks, assuming you'll likely master it in a few weeks (for some it can be months, some years or a life time, most commentary authors suggest 9 to 12 months rather than the few weeks he suggests), and telling you to only move on to the next exercise when you're done with the previous when really his own book isn't intended like that. Hence while it's one of the best systems out there it takes people who've made it through to help decipher what needs to be done on a nuts-and-bolts level because the book ends up being fuzzy in some very important places, particularly Step I.

Looking the table of contents quickly shows that they seem to vary a great deal in length, it looks like steps IX and X are close to being the back half of the book though.

At least from the directions its claimed that you're really not supposed to read it cover to cover but rather treat it as a workbook which is what I'm doing for better or worse (or whether or not I even stick with it - all depending on what my readiness really is or isn't). The Self-Initiation Into the Golden Dawn is kind of similar in this sense as well. The workbook setup is a bit different than what I'm used to reading but that's the best way I can explain it.

[Solving Ennui]

I might look through the pdf some more tomorrow, tonight is not a sitting and reading something night

[Cybernetic_Jazz]

Good luck on your studies and just remember that it's a long-term process. Many people pick up and put down the Bardon system as well because sometimes development is being asked quicker than it manifests. Even if that happens just keep with the meditations and let it take as long as it needs.

[Solving Ennui]

Practiced meditation in one form or another since I was 6, it is a life long pursuit for me.

[Sokora]

Hi all,
A think "Bardon sistem" that are 3 books, beginning with initiation into hermetics and then kabala + invocation are the best for occidental student. U can see also web: www.abardoncompanion.com

[Solving Ennui]

Thanks for the responses, I have found most of bardons concepts are well covered in thelema. Not to say I couldn't benefit from studying it individually, but simply that I am already doing it through my own paradigm.