Erasing the Past with Magick?

[ThreeWhens]

I realize that this question is a long shot, but I really want to know...is there a way to erase one's past with magick? I've made many mistakes in my life and have spent every day wishing that I could undo them. If I can't erase my past, then I'd at least like a way to neutralize the negative effects it has on the present (the bad karma, the fallout from the bad decisions, etc.)...is any of this doable? Thanks. I'd really like to have some way of starting over with a blank slate.

[Desecrated]

No
You can't change what's already happen.

[Desecrated]

"then I'd at least like a way to neutralize the negative effects it has on the present"

You could change your own attitude towards it. That doesn't mean that actions don't have consequences. If you dropped out of school you'll still won't get a good job, but you can lower your desire and be happy with that kind of life.

OR, build enough energy to go back to school, fix some old stuff, forgive and/or ask for forgiveness.

[ThreeWhens]

No
You can't change what's already happen.

What about retroactive magick?

[Desecrated]

No
You can't change what's already happen.

What about retroactive magick?

Two aliens walks in a bar
The first one turns to the second:
- Have you heard about the drake equation?
- No, said the other
And then the bar promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

If the You in this present changed the past, You would not be the You in this present and then you would not need to change the past, because it never happened.

[Ramscha]

One part of practicing magick is acting and accepting the concequences. This applies to any other part in life as well.

You might be able to change your memories if you get a hold of some good self hypnosis trick and if you have some talent for it.

[Desecrated]

The fun part about retroactive magick (now that I've eaten and had a thought about it) =

Retroactive magick doesn't actually change the past.
It's more of a mental exercise to change your perception of the world.
It's great for tight-asses like me, who think they know everything, and need to loosen up a little. [gz]


It might be part of the exercises that changes your opinion about your past, but I also think there is a danger that you get even more hung up on the past by doing that.

If you absolutely need to.
Do it once, but only to get it out of your system.

There are other (better?) exercises to loosen up your attitude towards the past then retroactively trying to change it.



As an extra clarification:
If you do magic to change something, part of you will expect it to change. When it doesn't change, you want it to change even more and thus it changes even less.
When people want something bad enough they tend to over-concentrate on it. Magic seems to work best when you cast a spell, and then don't think to much about it later on.
A ceremony can be a great experience once, because it allows you to experience something new. But doing it day after day after day would be rather pointless.
(There are exercises yo can [and should] do everyday, but a full blown ceremony each day on the exact same subject might be too much)



I don't think it is unfair to say that you obviously care and think about your past. BUT the best way to move on is actually to = move on.
Stop thinking about it so much, stop worrying about it so much, lessen your emotions about events. Get rid of guilt, shame and/or anger.

If you start doing magick trying to change it, not only will you NOT let it go, you might run into the risk of holding on to the past even more.

[RoseRed]

I'm familiar with several techniques that supposedly change the past.

Time is fluid - you can follow it back and forth. The problem is - our physical plane and bodies are linear.

You can go back in time and change how you feel about an event but you cannot change the event itself.

Oh, the things I could do if I had a time machine.

But, would I really do them?

[Asurendra]

Hello ThreeWhens,

I don't think that the time-line as we know is changeable by us at this time. However, the incidents are less important at this point than the karma which emanates therefrom. There are remedies for that but that is a religious issue.

[manonthepath]

I realize that this question is a long shot, but I really want to know...is there a way to erase one's past with magick? I've made many mistakes in my life and have spent every day wishing that I could undo them. If I can't erase my past, then I'd at least like a way to neutralize the negative effects it has on the present (the bad karma, the fallout from the bad decisions, etc.)...is any of this doable? Thanks. I'd really like to have some way of starting over with a blank slate.

You would have to dismantle your ego completely. In a very profound way, you would have to completely destroy the person you were and are now in order to create and develop a new person divorced from the deeds. For most this is impossible because they love the prisons they have built for themselves and lack the strength and true desire to do the internal work. This is why christianity is so popular. They get the illusion of a free ride without having to do anything. If your desire is real, read the Dalai Lama and the Dammapada..

[Asurendra]

Before I write what I want to say here I want to make it clear that I am not a Christian and I am not a Buddhist. I have my own reasons for not following either of these paths.

Manonthepath said, “They get the illusion of a free ride without having to do anything. If your desire is real, read the Dalai Lama and the Dammapada.” I'm going to disagree with this statement.

The Skanada Purana says that one can attain liberation/salvation by devotion to any God. The Path of Devotion or Bhakti is well established in the East. Such a path has to exist to grant access to the Divine for all humans of all types and it is also helpful if this is an aspect of any path, even if one is more focused in the head to balance out the personality and ones relationship with the Supreme Lord. If ones belief system and devotion is centered on the person of Christ then the baggage of abstract doctrine does not matter and that person can attain 'salvation' in their view.

Now about the Dalai Lama and I am probably alone in this (like my dislike of Chaplain) but I do not trust him. Why? Buddhism teaches that artificial thought-constructs such as 'Tibet' are empty. They are empty because they are impermanent and subject to change. Tibet was Shamanic for who knows how long, Buddhist for 400 odd years and now Communist: all is impermanent (isn't that a Noble Truth). One of the goals in Buddhism is detachment to such illusions. By working to free Tibet he is creating attachments and emotional investments (desire) in this illusion when he should be teaching that there is no Tibet. People look to him for spiritual guidance and his actions have created, across the globe, the opposite of his own teachings. Further, although he renounced it in 2011 if he had been successful before that, he would have been head of state for the liberated Tibet and so that makes me question his motives. I don't think of him as any different from the Pope. I listen to what they have to say and take it for what it is worth but have no attachment to them. That is my opinion.

[manonthepath]

I never advised anyone to trust anything, least of all in any supreme being. Reading the works I mentioned will provide contexts that I have found to be helpful in helping to destroy the ego. These are works that are easily understandable by anyone and introduce concepts that can aid in freeing the mind. How one interprets the works and what one does with what may be gained is up to the individual in question. What might be well advised is for one to read the works and then attempt to engage in collective inquiry to better interpret things. Then, possibly, move on to Mantak Chia or Deepak chopra to continue the progress toward the destruction of the ego in the attempt to free one's self from one's past. As is often the case with anyone, There may be some implicit inferences drawn from my words. these are the responsibility of the reader and should not be confused with my intended message, which should be clear from the literal interpretation of my words. I would thank you, however for taking the time to so heavily consider what I have written and wish you the very best in life. [yay]

[Visrite]

No
You can't change what's already happen.

What about retroactive magick?

Two aliens walks in a bar
The first one turns to the second:
- Have you heard about the drake equation?
- No, said the other
And then the bar promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

If the You in this present changed the past, You would not be the You in this present and then you would not need to change the past, because it never happened.

I promptly disagre with you sir. I myself have gone back and changed things. But living things over again is not a task for the timid or easily board. If your reality is purely a straight line I feel sorry for you indeed. Your perception is all that is real. ^_^