Curses by non- magicians can be the most powerful.

[Horny Goat]

We all know tales of magickians who placed a curse upon someone with devestating consequences, but often, curses by people who are not magicians can be the most devestating and longest running.

Exorcist Reverend Donald Omand, books 'Experiences of a modern day exorcist' and 'the man who exorcised the Bermuda triangle', tells of a curse from the Scottish highlands that ran through the centuries. He changes the names of those involved. Centuries ago, and English general led his men to attack a village in the Scottish highlands. He intended to kill every man he caught. All the men had gone out hunting, leaving just one 18 year old lad amongst the women and children. The general spared the women and children but ordered the boy hung, which was carried out in front of his mother. She cursed the general that his male descendants would not live beyond 18 and they never did. The exorcist encountered two of his last male descendants, both of whom died before their 19th birthdays knowing of the curse and expecting to die.

Another deadly curse: The Chair of Death.

The Cursed "Chair of Death" Kills All Who Sit in It


In 1702, a convicted murderer named Thomas Busby was about to be hanged for his crimes. His last request was to have his final meal served at his favorite pub in Thirsk, England. He finished his meal, stood up, and said, "May sudden death come to anyone who dare sit in my chair."

The chair remained in the pub for centuries, and patrons would often dare one another to sit in the cursed seat. During World War II, airmen from a nearby base frequented the pub, and locals noticed that the soldiers who sat in the chair would never return from war.

In 1967, two Royal Air Force pilots sat in the chair, only to crash their truck into a tree just after they left. In 1970, a mason tested his fate in the hot seat, only to die that same afternoon by falling into a hole at his job site. A year after that, a roofer who sat in it died after the roof he was working on collapsed. When the pub's cleaning lady tripped and fell into the chair, she died shortly afterwards from a brain tumor.

This list goes on, and finally the pub owner moved the chair into the basement. Unfortunately, even in storage the chair claimed another victim. After a delivery man took a quick rest while unloading packages in the store room, he was killed in a car accident that same day.

Eventually, the pub owner donated the chair to the local museum in 1972. The museum displays the chair by hanging it five feet in the air so that no one can possibly sit in it by mistake again. Fortunately, no one has sat in the chair since.

Neither case involves trained magickians, yet see how devestating their curses were.

[Sypheara]

It is interesting to note that in these cases, the curses arnt actually carried out, or even really put on, by the people involved. The woman whose son died, other than issue an aggrieved cry for revenge, did not through force of will cause the curse to take effect. It was instead the boys spirit, or what remained of it.

These attacks carried out by these shells of the person they become after such a life / tragic death. It becomes a hungry ghost, one of the dark dead, that goes on to carry out these kinds of curses as a matter of course usually with a very singular purpose.

It isn't caused simply by the person who utters the curses 'will', it requires an actual mechanism for the reaction to be carried out. These shades can be used by a magickian who knows how to direct them towards malefic work. Its something I have not attempted, to direct them, but the graveyard work i do requires me to have knowledge on how to prevent them from attaching to myself.

[RoseRed]

Either that or the people you mentioned were actually gifted in some way.

Add some inherent Talent to power of Motherhood - while crying out in grief - oh yeah. I can see that.

It's said that those that have the power to bless have the power to curse.

[Horny Goat]

Great blog Sypheara, thanks for responding. Thanks both if you for responding.

[Sypheara]

Add some inherent Talent to power of Motherhood - while crying out in grief - oh yeah. I can see that.

It's said that those that have the power to bless have the power to curse.

This is also a possibility, either way though, they have to have that gift.

No bother! Thanks for the compliment. I hope to get a small post up today at some point as was working with a doll to quicken its spirit before it was given to someone to help protect them.

It seems me and RoseRed have a habit of turning up in the same threads at the same time! [yay]

[RoseRed]

It seems we do.

And we seem to hold similar opinions on things as well. And those that we don't - we're able to explain where we're coming from.



Have you guys ever noticed that it seems like the really pissy and petty type people have a knack for throwing petty curses (hexes)? It's like, even if they have the power or ability to bless - that thought just never crosses their minds.

[Sypheara]

It seems we do.

And we seem to hold similar opinions on things as well. And those that we don't - we're able to explain where we're coming from.



Have you guys ever noticed that it seems like the really pissy and petty type people have a knack for throwing petty curses (hexes)? It's like, even if they have the power or ability to bless - that thought just never crosses their minds.

That we do!

I have also found this to be the case. Yet I think you answer your own question in your post. The fact they are really pissy and petty naturally lends itself to them throwing similarly petty cureses and hexes. It is a juvenile way to act created by an immature personality, mind, and soul.

[Horny Goat]

Thank you both for responding. Sypheara, you say it is the spirit of one who is dead empowering the curse.In both the cases I mentioned the spirits of the dead remained deadly for at least a couple of hundred years. That's a long time for a spirit to be working its repeatedly fatal influence. Why do you think the spirits of the dead can be so incredibly deadly whilst the spirits of the living are, magickally, so much less so? I find the power of these curses quite frightening. Do you believe a demon could have gotten involved? There are plenty that would look for the chance to kill.

Thank you for any responses.

[Sypheara]

Thank you both for responding. Sypheara, you say it is the spirit of one who is dead empowering the curse.In both the cases I mentioned the spirits of the dead remained deadly for at least a couple of hundred years. That's a long time for a spirit to be working its repeatedly fatal influence. Why do you think the spirits of the dead can be so incredibly deadly whilst the spirits of the living are, magickally, so much less so? I find the power of these curses quite frightening. Do you believe a demon could have gotten involved? There are plenty that would look for the chance to kill.

Thank you for any responses.

Such shades can last for thousands of years in some cases. They can grow stronger not weaker in time especially as they injure more people. The dark dead have direct free access to the ethereal/astral without having a body to worry about and are inherently vampiric in nature. They are literally spirits of death., distilled, directed and honed over numerous years and often others of their kind can help and accompany them. Only very few alive individuals are as toxic as a truly old shade. The strongest blurs the line between a +ghost+ and a demonic entity, as they are very violent and malicious.

Im cautious of them as they often congregate in places of death, where also its best to honour the hallowed dead ie cemetery crossroads etc so I can encounter them in my woek and on occasion have.

Unless a person is incredibly individually gifted or trained, they lack the same kind of intrinsic effect, and their curses are less likely to have similar dramatic effect, imho.

Your mileage may vary of course.

[Horny Goat]

I attended my aunts funeral a few weeks back. Are graveyards dangerous places? Can you give any examples of people innocently entering a graveyard and bringing something really bad back? I've heard you can unwittingly pick up spirit attachments here. Can you give details of your own experiences with the dark dead? Thank you.

[Ouroboress]

Can you give details of your own experiences with the dark dead? Thank you.

I find this conversation very interesting.
I too hope that you can recount some experiences, Sypheara!

[Sypheara]

Graveyards can be indeed be very dangerous places if not treated with caution and respect. All efforts must be undergone to ensure a shade is not brought back to the home once one has been to one. Although the likelihood of that occurring is not too high, if it actually happens, it can be very problematic to get rid of.

I remember a documented case in America, carolina i think maybe, where a mother and some children passed through a small cemetery that was only a few blocks away from their house as a shortcut and decided to stay and allow the kids to play there. The child recounts seeing a man in a uniform watching them, but the mother can see nothing. Later on she begins to hear him once they get home talking to an imaginary friend, and thinks nothing of it. The 'imaginary' friend identifies itself as a man called Gabel or something like that. Its not long before objects are moving of their own accord, sounds are being heard when nobody is there, etc. They also begi to hear the distorted laughter of other spirits, including children, that the child does not identify with Gabel. Even her partner who was unaware of the boys supposedly imaginary friend etc because he works late night shifts was soon having sheets pulled off his bed, was being pinched in the night etc. They tried to get a paranormal tea in to investigate it who documented their claims, but I cant remember if they ever got the spirits to leave. I do remember they found out that Gabel was a civil war solider who had been buried in the cemetary after being killed in battle.

Although low level and not overly harmless, these would fall into the lower categories. It is obvious from the above how they have claimed the house and space as theirs, and do not respect the people who are alive and whose space it was in the first place.

I have numerous experiences, so ill quickly recount three. When i was young i useed to sufer from both nightmares and night terrors, to do with black, humanoid shapes that lived in the upstairs areas of my nans old home. It would be easy to have marked this off only as a dream and thought nothing of it, having the attention span of a child. However, i could see these beings with my own, physical eyes when i would visit, and they would move doors, touch me and want me to play with them or play with me. However, their was always something 'off' about them. They would anger easily, impose themselves upon me to notice them and their antics, and generally bother me when i wanted to be left alone. Sleeping in the upstairs bedroom was again fine some nights, until they finally got annoyed at me not interacting and ended up appearing in my dreams. They began to follow me to my own home, and from then on i refused to go upstairs at the place unless it was strictly necessary. At that point, i began to sleep with a night light on constantly, as i didnt ever want to go to sleep and leave my body exposed to them.

As i got older, these experiences lessened, more in part i think as i spent less time at that location. Even when i went back older though, you could hear breathing coming from rooms where nobody was present. My mind couldnt accept this, and i kept pushing it off as my imagination despite how clear it was as it was genuinely disturbing.

When i started working with Hecate on my path, I began encountering spirits again but not on such an obvious physical level, but through dreams etc. Then one night, when i was with my then partner, i felt an overwhelming feeling of something being wrong. I stumbled out onto the corridor to see a large, and amorphous, black shape twisting in tendrils and moving through the house. I knew it had come for something: me, as I could feel that it had found me. I recognised it from being a similar feeling from when i visited a cemetery earlier. It resolved itself into a humanoid shape, and came face to face to me. I stared it down, and told it by all the powers i could think of to fuck off and stayed fucked off. It vibrated strongly for several seconds before wordlessly dissipating. From that point onwards, i cleansed what spaces i could of the shared accommodation (6 of us were living their at the time) and decided to be a hell of a lot more cautious from then on.

When i work in the cemetery, ill often feel a different kind of dead, the restless, the melancholic etc intuitively nearby.Sometimes you hear footsteps of rustling behind you, especially if you are already taking offerings into the cemetery. At that point, i usually follow the greek originating tradition of not looking back, and drop coins, alcohol or other small offerings simply to placate them and divide their attention away from me.

The only dark dead i ever had a long running relationship with of any kind was a dead woman called Emily, who was of the lowest level of dark dead. She was still in the area near her grave, and had been for about 60 years. She was unable to really move on for a reason i never got to learn. I often left the odd offering for her more simply for condolences, even though it went against what i knew i should be doing. I stopped when i realised this depressed thinking was indirectly being caused by her, and then i realised the dangers of working with these spirits long term psychologically.

There was also a prominent suicide of a chinese girl at my university when i was there, she threw herself out of a the story window onto concrete supposedly whilst screaming sorry to her mother. After a few weeks everybody forgot about he incident, once the blood was cleaned away, so i paid her site of death a small visit. She and her energy was still there, i left some things to try and calm her spirit down, as well as talk to her, but i have never been back to that site. I dont want to, in case i find she is still there, because if i am honest im not confident in how to perform 'sin eating' so to speak, ie, to release a spirit from its bounds and elevate it beyond being one of the dark dead.

Hopefully that helps in some way. I might actually put a blog post up with some of these collated posts actually as this is an interesting topic and something i could pull my old notes out on.

[RoseRed]

You can pick up spirit attachments (or hitchhikers) just about anywhere. Cemeteries are repositories. Not everyone crosses over quickly. There have been times that I've avoided specific parts and places within different cemeteries because you could feel the darkness coalescing there. I had no need to interfere. I had my own business to take care of.

Going on Haunted Tours is also a good place to pick up a hitchhiker - if they're not trapped to the specific location.

I went to a haunted jail I went to with a very sad paranormal team last summer - there were some very dark dead that remained in that place. One in particular was on it's way to becoming a Shade. It was dark and twisted and angry. It was also in the process of morphing into something way different than human.

On the topic of Sin Eating - I don't think that's always necessary. According to the lore - Sin Eaters exist. I haven't met one yet. I have helped several dead cross over. From what I saw and felt - whatever sin was still left fell from them like a cloak as they crossed the veil - at least those going into the golden light. I haven't seen that with those that cross into other places.

I personally would not want to take on the sins of another. I got enough of my own. Psychopomping - helping the dead travel and cross over - is different than eating their sins.

[Sypheara]

Thats actually an important distinction, one that i neglected in my post. Thanks for bringing it up.

I laughed when you said 'with a very sad paranormal team', I had some kind of mental image of a load of depressed ghost hunters haha. That sounds like an ideal location though to create such type of spirits. You are right to point out that locality really does matter.

One can say 'cemeteries' but thats a large generalisation. Its definitely more nuanced than that. These pockets exist in numerous places within the cemetery. Concentration of the amount of dead in one place creates these in certain concentrations one needs to be aware of when working within it. I wont casually enter the cemeteries anymore, which has become my own personal taboo for safety and respect reasons as i often also use cemetery crossroads for offerings.

I agree with what you say about being able to pick up hitchhikers mostly anywhere, which is why its important to claim your space and keep aware for any physical/emotional/spiritual influences they might be exerting.

[RoseRed]

Jails and prisons, too. There's a lot of hitchhikers waiting for a taxi outta there.


Ahhhh, yes - the sad paranormal team. LOL It's almost funny now.

They were terrified of what they were hunting. A couple people refused to go back inside after they walked through with me and my daughter. She's off on her own now - I had to teach her how to protect herself in a situation like that.

So, they'd take people interested in joining the team to a haunted jail to see how they do to gauge how the interested people may act/react in a persons home. Right - cuz going into a persons home with a ghost or two is exactly the same as taking someone Gifted into a jail with a couple dozen ghosts, one on it's way to becoming a Shade, one that was trapped and bound into it's cell and one that needed crossing over. You cannot take someone like me, stick me in a building with a couple dozen (mostly Hungry) ghosts and think that that's an accurate measurement of what walking into someones house would be like. Actually, me and my daughter both went. That jail went berserk with activity and very little of it recorded that night. The most exciting thing that ever happened before we went there was a feather light touch on an arm and a whispered name - till then. It was funny - by the end of the night - they were measuring ME with the equipment trying to figure out why the batteries would drain on some things and others would just schitz and start smoking.

My daughter and I both got into it with the people that were running the group. The 'unofficial' leader of the group that splintered off (was the dude that they splintered off from - go figure) was a total skeptic. My daughter got into it with him. I got into it with the 'official' leader of the group (who took orders from the other one). He walked around all big and bad and not scared of a damn thing - talking all sorts of crap. I told him to take off his amulet. Nope - he wouldn't do it. So, I told him he had no right to spout off like he was. He was unafraid because he was wearing a protection charm that actually worked - this thing hummed with power - not because he was unafraid. Either grow a pair to match your words or be honest about it. It's not that difficult of a concept.

I don't know who cursed the rapist/murderer who was bound in that cell but it was one HELL of a binding spell. He was like a caged animal that wanted out. The odd thing was - he had been in that cell for at least a century and he hadn't changed or morphed (or was in the process of morphing) like the other one that roamed free inside the building. I wonder how long he's going to be stuck there and what mechanism was used to created a such a strong binding spell that obviously continued working after the death of whoever placed it. That's one hell of a curse - to imprison a soul and have it remain.

[Horny Goat]

Thanks Sypheara and RoseRed, these are really good posts. I'm sure everyone who reads them is getting something from them. I never thought about the dangers of these ghost hunt nights. Seems pretty irresponsible to put, mostly, inexperienced thrill seekers in such a position of danger. I don't suppose most groups would be able to offer much help either to one who gets in trouble.

Returning to the curses. If they really were powered by the dark dead, then can these things be harnessed and used? Can they be given a, fatal, task to perform and stick at it for decades/ centuries? I ask because look at the way the world's going? Look at ISIS in Iraq, and their plan for a Caliphate that pushes deep into Europe. Look at the Jihadi groups in Syria. Imagine if the dark dead could be set, for decades/centuries, against some of the trouble makers in this world - of which there are plenty, and of all natures and in all positions. Look at the 20 year curse operating on US presidents.

[RoseRed]

Dark dead or djinn.

Neither is easy to harness.