Ramscha wrote:Atzmuth wrote:My mind is confused now? Are Satan and Lucifer different entities? If they are who is more powerful or at a higher position and can someone please describe me their roles and powers?
That depends on how you look at it. From a standard chrisitan view they might be the same (if one does not want to go too deep into theology). However, there are various directions and philosophies surrounding those two names, theistic satanism and luciferianism being just two of them. I am afraid the answer you are seeking varies depending on the approach you take.
There is no universal hierachy or description of who does which things. If I am not mistaken you are still rather new to the matter, are you?
I would suggest that you either take a look into some of those approaches seperatly or look directly at the entities themselves. However, it goes without saying that you should go for the basics first before you enter hell or heaven [wink]
Sypheara pointed out that she had quite a good collection regarding this topic, maybe she gives a hint if we ask her nicely?
Ramscha
Ah Eurynomous quotes. I've always been more of a Varg person myself. I always wondered on whether Eurynomous was all talk little action, compared to others within that scene, but then again, I say that as a unbiased external observer not someone close to the events at hand. And that discussion could fill its own thread.
I think so far this has been a good cover of the topic, the material ive got relates to gnostic satanism. It mostly from what i remember equates the Lucifer aspect with the bringing fire to man as a misanthropic tool to break free the world, and that this is an aspect of face of Satan. As such like Klavier says this is seen more in connection with Azazel and Prometheus whilst the Satan aspect is what is undoing the material cage.
Its much, much more involved on that but its awhile since I've researched this topic as my own path has taken me away with that particular current and down a much different one. One that feels much older, but is based more on unverified personal gnosis as far as everyone else is concerned so it has no real place in this thread which is on a more defined and particular topic. Time for a refresher from me I think.
Also Ramscha, on a note, I am actually male, but I can understand why you might / others might not have realised that, due to my username and the fact I don't raise gender often as a topic. The username actually has no occult story behind it, it was the name of a character from a book draft me and a friend wrote together over a decade ago in our spare time. A time when latin was cool (i was 13 at the time), before we realised how other languages operate giving words a feminine or masculine form! Its picked more out of a nostalgia than anythign else.
I actually have a good piece on men and how they relate / fit into the third wave feminist dominated 'neopagan' movement, that is supposedly getting published, but the editor is being very quiet after accepting to include it within the anthology. But i digress, back onto the masks of Lucifer/Satan discussion.
