How to access Theta State ?? (NO new age stuff)

[satankober]

Hi,
I am curious how to access fully conscious Theta state ??
Theta State that I would like to discuss here is real "esoteric" Theta State, NOT brainwave, audio, or any new age "junk" stuff
I'm in occult training, now I'm just training in alpha state..
After my current training is finished, I am going to learn about Theta State

Now, I'm looking for the resource/information for this Theta State
How to access it, how to remain stable and how to control it properly.
I have been looking about this subject everywhere, but only found about this subject in modern perspective, NOT in esoteric/occult perspective

I have a little information about this theta state
Theta State is a real deal in mind power manipulation. It has huge potential but it has it own risk if not controlled properly
An occultist I know said that "Reaching Theta State is like playing with fire, if you're not careful, you will burnt out to ash" (contrary to new age folks that said "Theta state is safe")

Had anyone in here ever reach this full conscious Theta state and able to control it properly??
Can anyone share info or resource about what kind of training I have to undergo to reach "real" conscious Theta State??
Please don't say "Use brainwave, audio, or any other modern stuff".. I don't like those new age stuffs

Thank you

[Nahemah]

For me it's all about the energy and vibration.

Cant.

The art of the human voice.

Vibration within and without, trance and gnosis.

Theta, if you call it that. Meh, Sing Galdr, loud and clear.

If you can make the vibration you can travel or it can come to you, drums, bells and whistles are supplementary, perhaps, but nonetheless they can be of import.

Not so much new age, as old, lol.

A bit presumptive of you, to assume replies before they are made, but hey and anyway, Happy Yulemas and welcome to the forum. [grin]

You are your own best intrument in this.

For one other instance, Western Sacred Music ...

...Descant or discantus can refer to several different things in music, depending on the period in question; etymologically, the word means a voice (cantus) above or removed from others.

A discant (occasionally, particularly later, written descant) is a form of medieval music in which one singer sang a fixed melody, and others accompanied with improvisations. The word in this sense comes from the term discantus supra librum (descant "above the book"), and is a form of Gregorian chant in which only the melody is notated but an improvised polyphony is understood. The discantus supra librum had specific rules governing the improvisation of the additional voices.

Later on, the term came to mean the treble or soprano singer in any group of voices, or the higher pitched line in a song. Eventually, by the Renaissance, descant referred generally to counterpoint. Nowadays the counterpoint meaning is the most common.

Descant can also refer to the highest pitched of a group of instruments, particularly the descant viol or recorder. Similarly, it can also be applied to the soprano clef. Descant can also refer to a high, florid melody sung by a few sopranos as a decoration for a hymn.

Descants in hymns
Hymn tune descants are counter-melodies, generally at a higher pitch than the main melody.

Although the English Hymnal of 1906 did not include descants, this influential hymnal, whose music editor was Ralph Vaughan Williams, served as a source of tunes for which the earliest known hymn tune descants were published. These were in collections compiled by Athelstan Riley, who wrote "The effect is thrilling; it gives the curious impression of an ethereal choir joining in the worship below; and those who hear it for the first time often turn and look up at the roof...

A bit of non new age, sacred solfeggio, even?

From Tibet to Tahiti and back again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descant

Humans have always been slaves to the rhythm, one way or another, lol.

Entheogens can assist you also. Just saying.

Neuroscience agrees with this too, if that kind of thing interests you?

More later.

Oh yeh, more science: connecting the amygdala to the hippocampus and sycning sensory inputs, would be a non musical way to describe this.

It's the 'how to' bit that's hard to enunciate, though..

[satankober]

thx for the reply
I'll look forward to the resource you gave

[grimmos]

I found you is this influencing conversation did you know before .org I copied a lot of the old site as well still active as well I wanted to have a witchcraft site as well but never worked out then you opened this one

[Desecrated]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_rhythm