A better explanation for Universe

[Atzmuth]

Sorry.

[Clockwork Ghost]

Sorry.

You don't need to apologise, Atzmuth - I wasn't meaning to imply that I wanted you to stop posting, but if you could please expand upon your points of view some times, maybe do a little bit of research so that when you make a statement you can back it up with something. I like discussing things with you because you seem to really want to learn - you want us to develop a school, you are interested in developing a new Theory of Everything (it's a real theory, look it up), and you obviously have a keen inquiring mind; but please - for the love of any god listening - stop just assuming that people are putting you down. If someone says something to you that you think is an example of bullying, or that you feel breaks the Forum Rules or Terms and Conditions, then report it. You have the freedom to truly learn here.

[Atzmuth]

So let me ask then. Do you guys have an explanation for the cretion of universe or what theory do you guys believe in? And it would be cool if you explained why do you believe in that idea?

Ps. Guys please be simple while explaining. Thanks in advance.

[EternalReturn]

Well, no one knows how the universe was created. I believe that Big Bang was the moment that put all in the motion, but what triggered it - well that's another question to which I don't have an answer. And I'm totally okay with not knowing. If I had such strong desire to learn what might've caused it I would study physics.

For now it is all speculation and you just have to find yourself a decent explanation for it.

[Clockwork Ghost]

So let me ask then. Do you guys have an explanation for the cretion of universe or what theory do you guys believe in? And it would be cool if you explained why do you believe in that idea?

Ps. Guys please be simple while explaining. Thanks in advance.

Okay. Simple answer, I promise. [thumbup]

1. I believe that the universe is infinite, but matter isn't. This means that there is an endless amount of space, but not all space contains something.

2. I believe in multi-dimensional space, specifically in ten discernable dimensions. Due to space being infinite, this is the only logical way to view the universe - an infinite universe must include infinite possibility.

3. I believe in an infinite different number of supernatural entities, not all of whom we will ever come into contact with. This is only logical in an infinite space that includes infinite possibility.

4. I believe that a Theory of Everything (ToE) is possible, and that it will draw upon Quantum Field Theory and General Relativity. I believe that this is possible in ten dimensional space, even though a ToE must involve all possible forms of physics and logic in order to be a true ToE.

5. I am absolutely certain that magick exists. This is in accordance with ten dimensional space, plus a universe that is limitless must involve magick in order to be limitless (this also, obviously, in accordance with ten dimensional space). I believe that all forms of magick, and all paradigms, are equally as valid.

How about you Atzmuth? What do you believe?

[Atzmuth]

I searched about superstring theory. It is really an interesting subject. But what created those strings? Or that really small particles? I think we will never find a begining. I am searching for an explanation for a begining. But I will always be trying to explain the event before the case. So it would be an infinite number. But my friend who is really in these kind of things told me that Hawking was once trying to answer this question but then Hawking realizes that this actually doesnt matter! Becouse there cant be something before Big Bang since Universe is created by this event! Everything (even If there is a God) must have existed after this event! Otherwise, If there was an event before Big Bang that event would be origin of the universe! This makes a lot of sense!

[Clockwork Ghost]

I searched about superstring theory. It is really an interesting subject.

I love it how you go 'A theory of absolutely epic proportions that completely blows peoples minds? Yeah, that's interesting' - don't ever lose that, Atzmuth. [pray]

Check this out - Ten dimensional (10D) space explained on video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Gotl9vRGs

But what created those strings?

Ummmmm... short answer that doesn't involve a lot of stuff that will confuse the hell out of you? Point like objects called string-bits.

Or that really small particles?

Really small particles are made up of leptons and quarks. Then you get gauge bosons and scalar bosons, and it all gets ridiculously confusing and, if you're anything like me, you end up sitting in a corner and giggling for half an hour. [grin]

I think we will never find a begining.

Me neither. I don't even know if there even is a beginning. I think that out inability to ever conceive of something that has no beginning might be one of humanity's biggest flaws when it comes to understanding physics.

I am searching for an explanation for a begining. But I will always be trying to explain the event before the case. So it would be an infinite number.

Try to stop thinking of infinity as a number. Infinity is either a concept or a set, not a number. The word 'number' in mathematics is usually defined as either a 'real number' or a 'natural number' - there are lots of other sets of 'numbers' (namely integers, rational numbers, and complex numbers), but those are the two which matter the most in this case. Natural numbers are always real numbers, but real numbers don't have to be natural numbers. You use natural numbers to count stuff, like apples or money. Real numbers are every single imaginable number you can ever imagine, ever (and a whole bunch you cant imagine, because they're completely nuts - stuff like a number which is not a root of a non-zero polynomial equation with rational coefficients, for example).

According to Axiomatic Set Theory, the set of natural numbers is infinite. All other sets of numbers can only be infinite if the set of natural numbers exists. Because the set of real numbers is greater that the set of natural numbers, which is itself infinite, the set of real numbers is also infinite in concept, but you simply can't count it. It is, by definition, impossible because it is bigger than the biggest any set can ever be. It's actually more complex than this, but this description should suffice.

But my friend who is really in these kind of things told me that Hawking was once trying to answer this question but then Hawking realizes that this actually doesnt matter! Becouse there cant be something before Big Bang since Universe is created by this event!

Yeah, but that relies on the theory that the Big Bang started everything, and something didn't exist before it. There is this thing called 'red-shifting', which basically means that any part of the substance that makes up the universe is going away from everything else. Equally, there is this thing called 'blue-shifting' which means that the universe is all coming back together again. What if the Big-Bang didn't just happen once? What if there are an infinite number of Big-Bang's, going on for infinity in each direction throughout ten dimensional space? And if that doesn't blow your mind, consider that the Big-Bang is just the essence of the universe - what the hell is all that essence even travelling through as it goes out through red-shift and back through blue-shift? Absolute nothingness? (my brain is melting...)

Everything (even If there is a God) must have existed after this event! Otherwise, If there was an event before Big Bang that event would be origin of the universe! This makes a lot of sense!

If that makes sense to you, then can you please explain it to me? [grin]

[Atzmuth]

When I read the article I was like " The more I know, the more I am happy with the fact that I am an Atheist!!". Clockwork_Ghost you should definetly check it. It is mind blowing: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang ... -for-noth/

[Clockwork Ghost]

When I read the article I was like " The more I know, the more I am happy with the fact that I am an Atheist!!". Clockwork_Ghost you should definetly check it. It is mind blowing: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang ... -for-noth/

Fascinating, Atzmuth. Thank you for sharing that link, it was very interesting indeed. [thumbup]