What tradition did Franz Bardon study?

[Shinichi]

Frabato is not the autobiography it claims to be as much as it is the work of Bardon's secretary. She finished writing some kinda-sorta autobiographical-ish papers he began, with her own overzealous embellishments, and it came to be what it is despite Bardon himself reportedly not wanting the work published. Much of the book is true regardless, and all of the magick described is quite real whether the exact scenes described happened in reality or not, but much of the book is also embellishment - including the past life names. I can say for a fact that most of the names (if not all) she listed as having "Bardon's Spirit" in the past where not his past lives at all, they are simply Sages of a similar caliber and of the same broader "Order" of Wisdom-Seeker. Being somewhat similar to a person who lived before you does not mean you were that person.



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[RockDemon]

Yes I know that it is not an autobiography , I wrote "biography" in the message. And may I ask your opinion regarding the political claims in the book ?

[Shinichi]

Which political claims? Specify.



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[RockDemon]

Abou Hitler specifically and that there is one powerful black magick lodge that is spread across the world and that most "powerful" politicians are part of it ?

[Shinichi]

There's quite a lot of things to say for Adolf Hitler, though I always thought he was rather tame compared to Heinrich Himmler. Most of the really bad stuff that Nazis are famous for came not from Hitler directly, but from Himmler whispering into Hitlers ear or just doing what he wanted once he got the rank to do so.

As for a global Black Lodge, I find that quite unlikely. "Black Lodges" are very real, if not by that specific label and structure, but they have a fatal flaw. Their members tend to be so egocentric and power hungry that the group, as a whole, tends to fall apart under the weight of individual pursuits and power struggles. Most of the groups that survive this are also a lot more honorable than most would think. They tend to be involved in some very dark stuff, sure, but there are rules that they use to keep the group secret, discrete, and so on. Breaking these rules (ie, doing what you want, irregardless of the group whole) means punishment, and often enough that punishment could be death. So in the rare case that such a group manages to last more than a few years, there are so many rules and so much structure they have to follow that most of them are relatively harmless. You have more chance of being killed by ISIS than ever finding yourself on the bad end of some "black lodge."

And as for the FOGC (the "99" group) specifically, well. There might have been one lodge that functioned that way, and it may have consisted of relatively important people, but I find it difficult to believe that there were 99 of them then or now. Most groups do their own thing, and not every worker of dark things works with the Judeo-Christian demon spirits.



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[RockDemon]

Yes I have heard/read many things regarding Himmler and Hitler and occult.
As for lodges, I think any lodge be it "black or white" sooner or later will have a problem regarding egos of people. So I think that the lodges should have only teaching goals. Bardon himself seemed to be on his own without any problem. ( The brotherhood of light is not a lodge , right ?)
And a beginner stupid question... Can't you just astral project or maybe summon Bardon and ask himself personally anything you want?

[Shinichi]

Can't you just astral project or maybe summon Bardon and ask himself personally anything you want?

Most people can't just call him up any more than most people can just call up a President or the Pope, because Bardon is a rather powerful spirit and he isn't subject to the whims of neophytes. But if you are a dedicated student, quite a few people have had experiences regarding him showing up in dreams or meditation. If you offer the system and its teacher a certain dedication and respect, Bardon will in turn honor that dedication in one way or another. The same goes for many other systems founded by genuine Adepts.



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[corvidus]

Can't you just astral project or maybe summon Bardon and ask himself personally anything you want?

if you are a dedicated student, quite a few people have had experiences regarding him showing up in dreams or meditation. If you offer the system and its teacher a certain dedication and respect, Bardon will in turn honor that dedication in one way or another. The same goes for many other systems founded by genuine Adepts.

A good way for a sincere student to go about this is to actually call out into the night and earnestly ask for the instruction he/she needs ('needs', not 'wants'). If the Adept deems it appropriate, he/she will communicate the information in the student's dreams.

And actually, if you keep a dream journal and go back a few years, you'd be surprised at how many times you've been taught by spirits or Adepts while dreaming, but that at the time you didn't think much about or forgot.

I can't remember though, if Bardon has any chapters specifically on dreaming. Maybe the chapters in IIH on subconscious thought control?

[RockDemon]

So for powerful spirits there is no way to summon them (ritual) except just sincercity ?

[Rin]

Rather say that you cannot force them to appear (if any spirit can be said to be "forced" to appear - perhaps "motivated" would be a more accurate term), instead they will manifest or make contact at their own discernment.

[Vovi]

We can compare books, or we can find out what works for us through our own experience.