The Joy of Satan
The Joy of Satan
The name says it all. Ever since coming to the Joy of Satan, it seems as though everything has fallen into place. There is no more confusion. None of this is fake either as with christianity and their fake god. All questions have been answered. The coincidences in my life are too real. There is no doubt in my mind that Satan is the true God of Humanity. The meditations are real and can be felt. Do not let fear get in your way or let others persuade you that this is not the truth. Read for yourself and make your own decision. Do the research. Figure it out. Time is too short to lolly gag through life. You have the opportunity to make something of yourself. The Joy of Satan is the way. For all those who have concerns about the JoS, I am happy to respond to you. This is all for now. I will post more later.
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I've never trusted an angelfire website...
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- RaineAshford
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The website is very antiJew and I don't appreciate that. I love the Jews.
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...which should've been your first red flag.pwnzer wrote:All questions have been answered.
No shit Raine [thumbup] Here we go again...RaineAshford wrote:The website is very antiJew
"Follow the path of the radiant life force as she flashes upward like lightning through your body." - Vijanabhairava Tantra
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Have any of you even done the meditations? This is after all an occult forum.
magari, What is your problem with Angelfire? If the site were anywhere else it would probably be taken down.
Raine, I love a lot of things. Jews are not on the list. In order for black magick to succeed, one must hate. Love is contrary to a black magick working. One must not have mixed feelings about anything magick related. Pro tip #1 from the JoS.
the_spiral, Have you ever came across a website that made total and perfect sense? If I came across a website where nothing was right, I wouldn't be a part of it. I looked at the christian version of Satanism before I came across the JoyofSatan and I knew right away it was garbage. christianity never made any sense either. Paganism was close. The JoyofSatan was spot on. Everything made sense and that isn't a bad thing.
magari, What is your problem with Angelfire? If the site were anywhere else it would probably be taken down.
Raine, I love a lot of things. Jews are not on the list. In order for black magick to succeed, one must hate. Love is contrary to a black magick working. One must not have mixed feelings about anything magick related. Pro tip #1 from the JoS.
the_spiral, Have you ever came across a website that made total and perfect sense? If I came across a website where nothing was right, I wouldn't be a part of it. I looked at the christian version of Satanism before I came across the JoyofSatan and I knew right away it was garbage. christianity never made any sense either. Paganism was close. The JoyofSatan was spot on. Everything made sense and that isn't a bad thing.
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The JoS meditations are a (very) chopped up and diluted version of tantric kundalini practices. I have no doubt they work, to a degree. Great if that's enough for you. Personally I'd rather go to the source.
And IMHO "all questions have been answered" is a great friend of propaganda and a mortal enemy of occult praxis.
Beyond that I'm not interested in flogging this particular dead horse again. Best wishes on your path and making converts here [thumbup]
And IMHO "all questions have been answered" is a great friend of propaganda and a mortal enemy of occult praxis.
Beyond that I'm not interested in flogging this particular dead horse again. Best wishes on your path and making converts here [thumbup]
"Follow the path of the radiant life force as she flashes upward like lightning through your body." - Vijanabhairava Tantra
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If all of your questions have been answered, then why are you here? You have everything you need to know over on angelfire. To me it seems like you're seeking validation.pwnzer wrote:There is no more confusion. None of this is fake either as with christianity and their fake god. All questions have been answered.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by "black magick"? What in your mind differentiates your brand of magick from others?
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You're wrong.pwnzer wrote: Raine, I love a lot of things. Jews are not on the list. In order for black magick to succeed, one must hate. Love is contrary to a black magick working. One must not have mixed feelings about anything magick related. Pro tip #1 from the JoS.
Black Magick is knowledge gained from the future. So love is at the core, being that ultimate unity will have been achieved in the future.
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You're saying paganism 'was close', what paganism? There is no one single pagan belief, there are countless systems with multiple deities from different eras in various cultures all over the globe... putting all of that into one basket doesn't really prove your point.
Basically, what works for me won't necessarily work for someone else. I don't believe in existence of one ultimate paradigm.
Basically, what works for me won't necessarily work for someone else. I don't believe in existence of one ultimate paradigm.
Does that mean love is not allowed in JoS teachings? I'm curios.pwnzer wrote: Love is contrary to a black magick working.
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That right there (the underlined part) is complete and utter bullshit.In order for black magick to succeed, one must hate. Love is contrary to a black magick working. One must not have mixed feelings about anything magick related. Pro tip #1 from the JoS.
Besides, how black are we talking?
JoS is like the Satanist version of the Aryans. They hate everybody, too.
When my wings get tired I grab my broom.
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the_spiral, Ok, show me a list of your Kundalini meditations, aka the source. I will try those out and see which are more powerful and effective.
goomegatherion666, If someone had knowledge of the JoyofSatan and did not share it with the world, it wouldn't be so great now would it. I am not here to validate my beliefs. I am very confident in my beliefs and always have been. I'm here to inform you and everyone else who might stumble upon this forum about the JoS. There is black magick and white magick. Black magick is negative and white magick is positive in most cases and also easier. Black magick is harder and can backfire.
RaineAshford, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Ušušur, I understand that about Paganism. I speak of pre-christian religion. At one time, religion was real and understandable and also, global. Serpent worship goes back thousands of years, way before christianity. Nowadays, or before I found JoS, Paganism was mysterious and did not have a real purpose or explanation and could not be taken seriously for me. On the other hand, the Joy of Satan explained everything way better than any Pagan website ever could. I could not find any Pagan site that had the meditations laid out for me and an explanation for everything. It was very enlightening to find what I was looking for all my life.. I was filled with......Joy.
goomegatherion666, If someone had knowledge of the JoyofSatan and did not share it with the world, it wouldn't be so great now would it. I am not here to validate my beliefs. I am very confident in my beliefs and always have been. I'm here to inform you and everyone else who might stumble upon this forum about the JoS. There is black magick and white magick. Black magick is negative and white magick is positive in most cases and also easier. Black magick is harder and can backfire.
RaineAshford, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Ušušur, I understand that about Paganism. I speak of pre-christian religion. At one time, religion was real and understandable and also, global. Serpent worship goes back thousands of years, way before christianity. Nowadays, or before I found JoS, Paganism was mysterious and did not have a real purpose or explanation and could not be taken seriously for me. On the other hand, the Joy of Satan explained everything way better than any Pagan website ever could. I could not find any Pagan site that had the meditations laid out for me and an explanation for everything. It was very enlightening to find what I was looking for all my life.. I was filled with......Joy.
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Ušušur, I said above that I love a lot of things. For one, I love Satan.
RoseRed, If you really want someone to get what they deserve, you are going to have to hate them or else the working will not work. Just simply hating someone with out even doing a black magick working is enough to cause them misfortune. If you get really angry with someone and then forgive them later, you invite misfortune to yourself. The negative energy will backfire because you are not 100% in your beliefs. There are other cases where if you want something to happen, you can use an affirmation and enough concentration and this will do the job.
RoseRed, If you really want someone to get what they deserve, you are going to have to hate them or else the working will not work. Just simply hating someone with out even doing a black magick working is enough to cause them misfortune. If you get really angry with someone and then forgive them later, you invite misfortune to yourself. The negative energy will backfire because you are not 100% in your beliefs. There are other cases where if you want something to happen, you can use an affirmation and enough concentration and this will do the job.
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You're definately trying to validate your beliefs; here you are seeking an argument with other occultists, many of whom are more practiced and knowledgeable than you are. If you were confident in your beliefs you would be out reaping the fruits of your successes and not having a care in the world what others thought about you and your ideas.If someone had knowledge of the JoyofSatan and did not share it with the world, it wouldn't be so great now would it. I am not here to validate my beliefs. I am very confident in my beliefs and always have been.
We're all aware of babby's first online mystery school. You check out some of the information available on this forum and from other, varied sources.I'm here to inform you and everyone else who might stumble upon this forum about the JoS.
Your definition of black magick is magick that harms others?There is black magick and white magick. Black magick is negative and white magick is positive in most cases and also easier. Black magick is harder and can backfire.

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goomegatherion666, At the end of the day, I do my meditations and my rituals and my workings and I will continue to do so whether or not you approve of my decision. Not everything is about me. I care about other people too. This entire world depends on all of us coming together. You guys are the ones arguing with me. I did not intend for this thread to go this way but it is and I will have to deal with it.
What are you trying to say? Babby's mystery school? I actually am going to go on to the other threads and speak about my experiences with tarot and pendulums and magick etc if I can find the threads. I'd like to hear your experiences as well. I will be looking through the threads but I have not seen anything interesting so far. The JoyofSatan forums are much more interesting.
Yes. Harming others or their belongings. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... AGICK.html
What is your definition of black magick?
What are you trying to say? Babby's mystery school? I actually am going to go on to the other threads and speak about my experiences with tarot and pendulums and magick etc if I can find the threads. I'd like to hear your experiences as well. I will be looking through the threads but I have not seen anything interesting so far. The JoyofSatan forums are much more interesting.
Yes. Harming others or their belongings. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... AGICK.html
What is your definition of black magick?
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I did. Eight years ago I stumbled upon JoS, tried some of it out, and found it to be jumbled and lacking. In the eight years since, I've done most of the original versions, and found them far more potent and effective. I found Kundalini Yoga to be boring, but I've worked with the practices of Franz Bardon, Crowley, and numerous others - none of which had anything to do with Satanism or any form of the LHP at all. Quite the opposite, actually, for Bardon and Crowley especially. They were both very RHP. I've also practiced numerous Qi Gong things, and I'm quite educated in Psionics after several years of working with it and studying it.pwnzer wrote:Have any of you even done the meditations? This is after all an occult forum.
In each case, I can now say with certainty that the JoS meditations are flawed and incomplete, taken out of a specific context (with specific pre-requisite development that JoS doesn't properly teach) and thinly reordered to serve the goals of the JoS founders. Most of the practices also leave the practitioner open for what is called "Analytical Overlay," as well as plain old Delusion.
I wonder why.pwnzer wrote:What is your problem with Angelfire? If the site were anywhere else it would probably be taken down.
The most powerful curse I even placed on someone was done out of love. Love for the people I was protecting, and love for the person I was harming, because although I did not want to harm him I knew that doing so would bring an end to what was otherwise a very terrible conflict for everyone involved.pwnzer wrote:In order for black magick to succeed, one must hate. Love is contrary to a black magick working.
You should sit down and have a long conversation about "hate-fighting" with an old and experienced martial artist. You don't need to hate the person you're fighting to hurt them, and indeed, the more emotional you get, the less focused you tend to get. You may get a temporary boost of power, but power without control is worthless. The true difference between a Brawler and a Warrior is not strength, or technique. It is Mind.
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Hello Shinichi,
Would you mind elaborating on this 'Analytical Overlay'? It's the first time I've come across the term in regards to meditation practices.Shinichi wrote:Most of the practices also leave the practitioner open for what is called "Analytical Overlay," as well as plain old Delusion.
Free yourself from the seduction of words.
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I'm saying that JoS appeals to beginners that want to shoot fireballs at their history teachers for flunking them.What are you trying to say? Babby's mystery school?
They're there for when you're done defending JoS. I've found quite a few interesting threads since I registered a few days ago.I actually am going to go on to the other threads and speak about my experiences with tarot and pendulums and magick etc if I can find the threads.
You ought to have a more open mind, there is plenty happening on this forum. Maybe you're only interested in things that confirm your worldview.I'd like to hear your experiences as well. I will be looking through the threads but I have not seen anything interesting so far. The JoyofSatan forums are much more interesting.
I don't categorize magick because it doesn't serve me to. That being said, I share a view with Crowley that magick ought to help you achieve K&C. Using it for any other purpose is foolish.Yes. Harming others or their belongings. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... AGICK.html
What is your definition of black magick?
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It's a term that was coined among Parapsychology, as part of psychic research, to explain the phenomena of a psychic getting part of their "reading" correct and part of it wrong. It's seen a lot in Remote Viewing studies especially, as well as similar "reading" and "traveling" practices.corvidus wrote:Hello Shinichi,
Would you mind elaborating on this 'Analytical Overlay'? It's the first time I've come across the term in regards to meditation practices.Shinichi wrote:Most of the practices also leave the practitioner open for what is called "Analytical Overlay," as well as plain old Delusion.
To summarize, Analytical Overlay happens when someone psychically connects to a Target, accurately retrieves certain information about it, and then because the undisciplined mind cannot process that information it is unconsciously Analyzed and changed into something it is not. Once this change is made, your unconscious mind creates an Overlay, so that, via your imagination, you will see the Overlay instead of the original information.
For example, suppose a researcher places a sealed box in front of you, and asks you to metaphysically tell him what is inside it. You close your eyes, connect your consciousness to the box to peak inside, and you see "yellow." Nothing else, just "yellow." Instead of saying "I just see yellow," though, your "monkey mind" throws up the thought "hey, bananas are yellow!" Your imagination latches onto this thought, which allows it to analyze and process information that you otherwise were not able to analyze and process, and suddenly you see a banana inside the box. So, you tell the researcher, "there is a banana inside the box."
The researcher makes a little note on his clipboard, then opens the box, pulls out a yellow t-shirt, and places it before you.
You accurately saw "yellow," but the undisciplined mind could not process this information, and so you unconsciously created an Overlay (yellow=banana) through Analysis of the raw information. This is Analytical Overlay.
It is most well known in Parapsychology and Psionics, but it's something that applies to everyone who does metaphysical practices, especially practices that are more sensitive to it than others - like The Sight, Journeying, and so on. The best protection for it is to know it can happen and to be vigilant against it by making practice as objectively verifiable as possible. We can't always verify the things we See, but in the early stages of training especially it is important to make an effort to do so, at least until you gain enough mental discipline and discernment to know what is being metaphysically perceived and what is being overlayed via imagination.
And yes, it even applies to many meditation practices. There is a difference between biofeedback and clairsentience, for example, and it's easy for a beginner to confuse the two or to get trapped in AOL when actually experiencing something. It's also very easy for many people to imagine tactile feelings, sounds, smells, and tastes, to the point of physically feeling them. This Plastic Imagination can also become a tool for AOL, or can become confused for genuine experiences if the mind is undisciplined.
Basically, it all comes down to having a controlled mind. The better your Thought Control is, or the more experienced you are with all these different things, the less susceptible you are to things like AOL and Imagination - you simply learn to tell the difference. Many don't have that discipline or experience, though, so it's important to make them aware of the risks.
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Wow!pwnzer wrote:RoseRed, If you really want someone to get what they deserve, you are going to have to hate them or else the working will not work. Just simply hating someone with out even doing a black magick working is enough to cause them misfortune. If you get really angry with someone and then forgive them later, you invite misfortune to yourself. The negative energy will backfire because you are not 100% in your beliefs. There are other cases where if you want something to happen, you can use an affirmation and enough concentration and this will do the job.
LOL!
Affirmations and enough concentration. I will try to remember that the next time I curse someone to their 7th generation. I reserve that for those extra special douchebags. LOL
Honestly, tho - you really did share some decent information.
I said that black magic requiring hatred was complete and utter bullshit. The skills are the skill. It's a Craft. The most powerful magics leave emotion out of them. I've seen the devastation an untrained Natural Talent can do out of extreme emotion. Have you seen what a well trained and highly educated which who doesn't give a fuck can do? I have. it made little miss natural talent look like a cupcake. You can't hurt someone you don't hate? Sure you can.
You have a very naive view of things right now.
You liked the JoS website because they laid it all out for you and you didn't have to do the legwork to find the research on your own. This is the wrong set of Paths for those who like things handed to them. They've earned the reputation that they have. People don't say untrue things about them (well, not usually, there's no need to).
Go spread the word. Isn't it ironic? It's the Joy of Satan doing things the way the Christians do. I love it [rofl] I'm not laughing at you - just at the way these organizations operate. My only advice - you might want to do a little more research into the history of a group before you align yourself with it. That whole birds of a feather thing. You're as welcome as anyone else to post about something occultic that moves you. No one has to agree.
Most of have no idea what Raine is talking about a good bit of the time. It's just kinda normal around here. But, she's sweet.
When my wings get tired I grab my broom.
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Thanks Shinichi for the elaboration. Much appreciated.
Analytical Overlay reminds me of Heidegger's philosophy of Being and Time. If I remember correctly, he writes at one point how the experience of an object can be misinterpreted because of its 'distance' from the observer. I can see how this is even more true when using the mind to understand something outside of itself, while using the imagination to project and connect in the first place.
Analytical Overlay reminds me of Heidegger's philosophy of Being and Time. If I remember correctly, he writes at one point how the experience of an object can be misinterpreted because of its 'distance' from the observer. I can see how this is even more true when using the mind to understand something outside of itself, while using the imagination to project and connect in the first place.
Free yourself from the seduction of words.
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Ooh, a controversial thread!
Remember to keep it civil guys, thread's under surveillance.
Remember to keep it civil guys, thread's under surveillance.
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its an angelfire website.... built with the skills of a child....
If they want to "Spread the Word" do they actually expect to be taken seriously?
Or do they only have the capability/desire to infect those who are incapable of thinking for themselves.
The answer is simple to me.
An army of zombies.....
A disease
An infection
A byproduct of real occultists dabbling in the mud and creating things like magickal paradigms around horror fiction.
I'm ashamed.
If they want to "Spread the Word" do they actually expect to be taken seriously?
Or do they only have the capability/desire to infect those who are incapable of thinking for themselves.
The answer is simple to me.
An army of zombies.....
A disease
An infection
A byproduct of real occultists dabbling in the mud and creating things like magickal paradigms around horror fiction.
I'm ashamed.
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The Only Constant is Change
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1. What is a Magician
2. The Human Experience
3. The Jail, The House, and The Temple
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Magari vs Illuminati Conspiracy Theories
The Only Constant is Change
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1. What is a Magician
2. The Human Experience
3. The Jail, The House, and The Temple
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Magari vs Illuminati Conspiracy Theories
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Satan turns his followers into zombies. Seems likely with how their face changes when they start worshipping Satan, it loses beauty for a blank appearance from what I've seen. Those touched by Satan at least.
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Oh, I'm not being feisty - I just love Satanists. As a whole, they're usually quite fun to talk to.
When my wings get tired I grab my broom.
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JOS are a Neo Nazi cult masquerading as Satanists.
None of my Satanist friends wish to be associated with JOS in any way, they do not count as anything other than what they are.
A creepy cult that ensnares disaffected youth and the low level, but constant energy drain from the deluded that feeds the psychic vampires running the show.
HATE,HATE,HATE, but only once you've 'dedicated' yourself, don't waste that energy before it's directed to the 'group' demons. [wink]
Don't drink the kool aid folks.
Don't assume this is what Satanism really is. Like most paradigms there are multiple forms and paths and also like most paradigms, sadly, there are some of those involved who would exploit others for their own ends.
These people speak only for themselves.
None of my Satanist friends wish to be associated with JOS in any way, they do not count as anything other than what they are.
A creepy cult that ensnares disaffected youth and the low level, but constant energy drain from the deluded that feeds the psychic vampires running the show.
HATE,HATE,HATE, but only once you've 'dedicated' yourself, don't waste that energy before it's directed to the 'group' demons. [wink]
Don't drink the kool aid folks.
Don't assume this is what Satanism really is. Like most paradigms there are multiple forms and paths and also like most paradigms, sadly, there are some of those involved who would exploit others for their own ends.
These people speak only for themselves.
"He lived his words, spoke his own actions and his story and the story of the world ran parallel."
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.
Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.