Beyond the occult

[Caerdon]

I... I am completely flabbergasted by you. While I do appreciate the opportunity to use the word "flabbergasted" (it is quite rare of an opportunity), I do not appreciate the setting for use of the word.

Well, I will just come out and say this then. Defend your fucking stance in some sort of intelligent way, instead of doing this self entitled juvenile bullshit, or lose all respect and credibility that people had for you.

All that I've read from people are them pointing out the flaws in what you said, talking about their own experiences with thought-patterns like this and what happened after, and commenting on your arrogant tone, which, quite frankly, only me and one other person mentioned in passing before you said everyone was focusing on it. Even then, after you brought it up, the main focus was on what you where asking and saying, calling into question your claims, calling into question what you wrote rather than attacking you as a person. Which is what intelligent people do. They call into question what is presented, from which the presenter has a duty to defend their stance and what they are presenting.
Instead you take insult and turn the burden of proof upon the ones calling into question your claims. It is your stance, you have to convince us of it's validity, give reasons as to why it's valid, on how you got to your stance, and defend it. Expand upon it. Try to make us understand what you are saying, where you are coming from and the information that pertains to it. You can't just call into question our questions or ignore evidence against what you say. This isn't pick and choose. You presented a stance, and it is our job, our obligation, to question it in order to pursue the truth, to pursue true knowledge, and disassemble anything that is not.

[Maya The Generator]

Sadly I agree with Caerdon. You try to look like kind of arogant jerk or you are one. I am sure you have knowledge magari, why not another aproach? Just like Caerdon said there is much potential to this topic.

Have good day guys... it is cloudy [yay]

[chowderpope]

I don't want to fuel the aggression here because I do understand how it feels to be scrutinized by a group. It is an awful feeling, but it's been one of the most powerful aids in changing my behavior to interact with people in less abrasive ways.

As it's been mentioned the original post contained interesting questions and thoughts but was blanketed with a self-aggrandizing and belittling tone which prompted defensiveness.

You may be very advanced in your practice but in my opinion, even the most inexperienced beginner should be treated with respect. This is coming from someone who has culminated the entire experience of 1 person on Earth though, so take it with a grain of salt! [wink]

Really though, I have enjoyed your posts and hope you decide to stick around.

[ghawke2]

I enjoyed reading your stuff Magari.

So, and because I'm a newbie, I would like to inject some levity with a hint of remorse in you going.

https://youtu.be/DtoCw2iOTSc

[THE MIST]

i'm almost certain that the occult goes alot further than JUST this forum... read some books my friend there are plenty.. and come up with your own studies instead of basing everything off of other people on the internet. this world is fucking huge and this universe is fucking huge.. if the occult isn't for you. i'd recommend to balance and intrigue yourself with a skill like skateboarding or just become a star wars nerd ..seems to work for me (what i do when my nose isn't in a book or i'm not getting into trouble).. look up the LAW OF ATTRACTION dude.. it will help you

[Draco20]

Maybe you should retire after all. Not that I would recommend it, especially if you have made it thus far in your personal quest, but
what is the point of pursuing in the Path when one no longer has the desire, motivation to keep learning and exploring life and all
of it's occult mysteries? I seriously doubt your claim that you have figured it all out, if so than why not teaching and transmitting this
Knowledge to people that may take it further? Sitting on a hoard of pearls or sleeping on it like Smaug the Dragon would do is not
going to help humanity. It might be time to give back. If not, than retirement is probably the best option and I wish you an happy life. [thumbup]

[magari]

I feel like Im crossing a swamp full of aligators

I ask them if they have any experience using a boat

They respond by trying to convince me their way is better and that I would be much happier in the water

It was a silly idea to ask alligators how to use a boat

I apologize for the confusion

Meanwhile, I found a paddle

[Sypheara]

You don't half talk alot of bullshit, quite unnecessarily I might add, Magari.

You avoid points people make when they actually answer you or engage you on anything, every time.

People have tried being straight with you, others tried being nice to you, but I'm past giving you a break. It's obvious you are here to simply stroke one out at the expense of everybody else.

Your analogy is frankly quite ludicrous on multiple levels.

Nobody is forcing you to adapt to their way, they are asking you to explain it, because this is a discussion board.

What are your own views on those questions? you obviously have your own conclusions that you avoiding giving for no good reason when they could generate an actual discussion?

Why did you even create the thread if you have your own answers and arn't really interested in what other people have to say? Why even bother posting in that case?

Your analogy is quite silly when its taken outside of a human perspective.

Why would alligators even need a boat? They've learnt how to swim naturally. They are top predators in their environment, capable of biting down with 13,172 Newtons of force. They are also accomplished climbers, and over short distances can sprint very quickly to ambush their prey. They are also immune to pointless delusion - they simply are and are very effective at it.

Maybe you need to be more alligator.

[Maya The Generator]

Sorry magari but I need to agree once again with your opposition. Sypheara is right, nobody made you do anything.

When you question somebody it is OK, when somebody questions your vision... they are enemy. Sad [cry2]

We are blind, you know everything. If we are that bad why you did not leave?

I a s y w w s a i w y t a a y a a p y f t

Praise Teh Sun

[Shinichi]

It was a silly idea to ask alligators how to use a boat

I apologize for the confusion

Meanwhile, I found a paddle

Your analogy perfectly illustrates your problem. You are an outsider trying to be an insider.

There is a very good reason why the alligators don't need a boat, magari. They are are native to the environment.



~:Shin:~

[Nahemah]

Has anyone else ever felt like they've culminated all the documented experiences, knowledge, and secrets and successfully placed them into action in their own lives?

I culminate my own experiences along with what I've extrapolated from the previous experiences of others and the study I've engaged with.

Do you rely solely on documentation?

Has anyone dove so deep into their study that anything "new" is simply the same thing in a new form?

I see repeating patterns, yes and patterns forming.

But, there is always more to be understood and formation can be interfered with, so nothing is set in stone, until it is set in stone.

Does anyone see the limitations of this perspective when facing humanity's future?

Does anyone see the limitations of their perspective when facing their own future?

Humanity's future is not something I alone can or want to dictate or could manipulate, single handed , so no.

I don't see anything as limited, except for what I want or need to limit, for my own self gratification and survival in this world.

Context is everything and individual perspectives vary a lot.

Has anyone successfully explored the perspectives outside of time?

What about perspectives that are alien to this earth?

Perpectives yes, THE perspectives, not sure what you mean by that, but that depends on how you perceive time, dosen't it?

I am interested in Spaceweather and the Solar system, magentic fields and suchlike, but not into ' alien' stuff at all, so this depends on what you mean by the term alien.

Are there any occultists successfully combining all of the teachings of the past and progressing them?

Does anyone else sense a great shift in our understanding on the horizon?

Perhaps its time to retire the term "occult"?

I might be so bold to claim that I've reached the highest level of initiation as defined by past mystics. If anything to call out those who might be resonating at a frequency greater than my own.

I'm getting a little tired of the world being utterly "unprepared" for my arrival and then racing to catch up with me.

Some teachings I regard as misgiven, misdirected or wrong, so no, I wouldn't blindly follow them all. Not at all.

Paradigm shifts are happening, much as has been going on for quite some time, globally speaking and you don't need to be an Occult master to be aware of this.

Retiring the word Occult is a strange idea, especially with the recent rise in Right wing Politics in Western Europe and the Americas.

Why do you think the World would be waiting for you to arrive?

And why are you dependent on the approval/acknowledgement of others?

[RoseRed]

A bunch of barely thinking primordial reptiles. Nice.

They respond by trying to convince me their way is better and that I would be much happier in the water

No, not at all. You're stuck in Air with the view from the hawk. I think you would be healthier if you put your feet back on the ground. If you go jumping into water right now you'll probably drown. Being stuck in any element is bad. Being stuck in anything is bad. As in not good for you.

This is either one of two things that I can think of.

We should either all be prostrated before you [pray]

or

it's called Delusions of Grandeur. It's a common enough problem for dedicated practitioners

We got into before because I said that you needed help. I still believe so. I wish you well and I hope you find what you need.

[Desecrated]

You're an alligator telling the other alligators that you understand everything about water. Some of the older alligators points out that that is impossible, there are simply to many lakes to known them all. And what about the frozen waters of the poles or Marianas trench?
In which you reply that there is no difference. Water is water were ever it is- Your little pond has deep water too. All deep waters are the same.

[magari]

Alien as in not dependent upon the experiences unique to this earth and even this solar system.

I'm not going to bother with statements grown out of attachments to common beliefs.

I've already stated I don't need approval/validation.

Like I said. I found the paddle.

Free energy is on the horizon.

[magari]

A bunch of barely thinking primordial reptiles. Nice.

They respond by trying to convince me their way is better and that I would be much happier in the water

No, not at all. You're stuck in Air with the view from the hawk. I think you would be healthier if you put your feet back on the ground. If you go jumping into water right now you'll probably drown. Being stuck in any element is bad. Being stuck in anything is bad. As in not good for you.

This is either one of two things that I can think of.

We should either all be prostrated before you [pray]

or

it's called Delusions of Grandeur. It's a common enough problem for dedicated practitioners

We got into before because I said that you needed help. I still believe so. I wish you well and I hope you find what you need.

Stepping into this perspective/lense/paradigm I should inform you that the Hawk is and always will be my friend, however now I am focused on the influence of the mountain lion in my life.

Stepping out of this paradigm I maintain my position.

[Nahemah]

I'm not going to bother with statements grown out of attachments to common beliefs.

I've already stated I don't need approval/validation.

You contradict yourself.

It was you you asked about 'documentation' referring to common beliefs, or 'knowledge'.

And you come across as angry no one else will acknowledge your genius, so you do expect validation.

Why make a thread announcing your genius, if this validation dosen't matter?



Over and out.

[Maya The Generator]

Tehehe [eg]

[magari]

Why make a thread announcing your genius, if this validation dosen't matter?

Good question lol

Yet I don't see it that way.

I count 10 question marks and 7 periods in my original post.

Doesn't matter now anyways. We can move on to other discussions.

[Haelos]

You title sparked my interest enough to read, and your post was actually intriguing enough for me to log in again just to reply. I do still lurk around every now and again.

Up until you wanted to make claims on your own abilities, you made a lot of very valid points, and I can agree that I'm in a similar position as you. You have, by no means, reached any "highest state." Maybe the highest state for an initiate, yes, but you have just as much to progress as I do. That much is painfully obvious.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to talk to people about anything enlightening, and if you weren't such an arrogant ass I'm sure we could have quite the conversation on the topic of our future, but I'm going to find satisfaction in simply reading the posts here.

You have no idea how right you are, but you're obviously as lost in yourself as I am in me. If you weren't, you wouldn't have found the need to post this. You've kinda said something I didn't bother finding the words for with this thread.

And I know that if I feel the same as you feel in your initial post, then you most certainly have a lot further you can progress.

This is a thread that sparked my interest, and it really makes me wish more people had actively partaken in my project on the multimedia board.
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =4&t=38183
She's been progressing far too slowly, and I don't have the physical energy to put in anymore. However, it seems that certain prophecies that were made have come true, and the Rebirth is going to happen once again, sooner than expected.

It's really interesting, life's little messages, you know?

[Haelos]

I'm only like halfway through reading the posts on this thread, but all of you guys have seemed to forgotten who OP is.
It's Magari, guys.
Self-entitled, arrogant, wasteful responses are all that is even given from that man.
It seems that since Magari was first called out on these forums, people have still allowed him to reign his idiocy free where he so chooses.


At this point, I can't tell if he's just a really damn good troll, if he's payed to spread misinformation, or if he really is just what everyone thinks he is. It's a battle, ya know?

[magari]

*tips his hat*

[Maya The Generator]

I'm only like halfway through reading the posts on this thread, but all of you guys have seemed to forgotten who OP is.
It's Magari, guys.
Self-entitled, arrogant, wasteful responses are all that is even given from that man.
It seems that since Magari was first called out on these forums, people have still allowed him to reign his idiocy free where he so chooses.


At this point, I can't tell if he's just a really damn good troll, if he's payed to spread misinformation, or if he really is just what everyone thinks he is. It's a battle, ya know?

Not even close to trolling. [tongue]

Being paid to spread misinformation, here? Just wow. [eg]

Battle? Whole time I thought it was conversation. [cool]

Still, nice to know you still livin and kickin [yay] See ya soon, Praise teh Sun

[Coffee_and_Burberry]

All of this... is hilarious. Also... a fool thinks he knows everything. A wise-man knows he knows nothing at all... Jussayin...