The Ankh, a Dream and an astral attack ?

[RockDemon]

Hello guys , I wanted to share with you one of my recent experiences and I need your comments. So a few nights before i started to do serious lucid dreaming, dream recalling exercises. On that same night I had a ritual to do. So I went to bed to sleep. I was able to remember many dreams, woke up a few times. And then I had this dream. I was in a room in the house that I live. It was another room not the one that I sleep in. It was a sunny summer day. I have had a necklace tied on my neck. It was a Golden Ankh, with a red diamond/ruby on the intersection part. The chain with which it was tied to my neck was golden also. And in each part of the chain was a little white diamond. It was so beautiful. However I didn't remember how I got that necklace. I don't wear any necklaces at all in the waking life as well. But I knew that this golden ankh was a powerful magickal thing. There were 2 (FBI ?) agents with me in that room to protect me and the ankh. There is a TV in that room. During the dream it was on. And we were watching some news report. Some terrorist organization chief spoke. He was talking to his people saying that their Holy symbol (the ankh) was found/retrieved and stolen(for the details sake the terrorists were muslims , but probably this piece is just the stereotypes at work ). And they will do everything to get it back. Then as it turned out one of the agents that were with me was a spy of that organization. He attacked me and tried to take the ankh from me. The other agent tried to stop him but he was defeated. As the terrorist attacked me I began jumping very high and quickly (in some supernatural way) so that he couldn't catch me. I jumped into the other room. There were my housemates I asked them to help but they just called the police and nothing more lol. As the terrorist was still pursuing me I decided to confront him. So I turned , jumped very high tried to hit his head with my head. He jumped as well grabbed me, as we were falling on the ground I hit on his stomach, and then I woke up.
So I usually don't have many nightmares. And whenever I have them when I wake up I feel just fine and very quickly come out of that dream state. Recognizing that it was just a dream. But this time as I woke up I felt some presence. The presence of that terrorist. At first I ignored it, thinking that it was just my imagination still in dream. So I grabbed my pen and journal fascinated by the dream to write it. However I was writing the dream, I was still feeling that presence. I tried to meditate thinking that the feeling will pass. But in vain. I was't able to meditate. I continued to write down the dream. As I finished I still was feeling that presence. I am usually not afraid of dark but this time it was hard for me to look into the darkness. And if I stared for a bit into the dark I think I would've seen him. Finally I tried do some sort of basic banishment. I seated in a meditation pose imagined light in my heart. Then without any control the light burst out of my heart through out the whole house. And I saw that presence/being to be burnt to ashes. And that was it. I was feeling fine. And was not afraid of anything. And that feeling of presence disappeared. Then I went on doing the ritual that I planed.

Please give me some comments on this. Any thoughts/interpretations about that dream? Can anyone tell me about the Ankh symbolism? Or give me some good links about it? Do you think it was some being trying to harm me?

[Neko-phyte]

Do you do any Kemetic work or other work with Egyptian deities? The Ankh is pretty synonymous with Egypt. The ankh probably also has ties to other cultures (i've forgotten for now, sorry). The ankh itself is a form of cross, and carries many of the same symbols that other crosses do--life (in regards to life here and the afterlife), hope, strength/perseverance, a thing that reaches out and brings people together. The ankh shares many similarities with other cross symbols on a general level; no ankhs for Jesus for example but the symbolism that the Latin cross carries in this instance is similar to the ankh and things that other cross symbols have represented throughout time.

The two agents I find intriguing, but I couldn't say anything definitely. My mind keeps on going back to the chart I'm still doing for you and it's making me wonder if it's a symbolic representation of something that could be going on internally. I'll have the chart done next week. Of course this week just had to be eventful [confused] Sorry about the delay on it.

Oh and of course the rubies and diamonds--two out of the five precious gemstones today! Each important symbols (imo); together with gold, they all have links to the sun, fire, strength, and that kind of thing.

If you're worried about it, maybe look into performing some kind of protection spell or ritual. I don't have great recommendations for this, but I'm sure there are others who know some really good stuff. Good luck

[RoseRed]

Can you break up that giant block of text. It's difficult to read.

[RockDemon]

Can you break up that giant block of text. It's difficult to read.

Sure.. Hope it is easier to read this way.

Hello guys , I wanted to share with you one of my recent experiences and I need your comments. So a few nights before i started to do serious lucid dreaming, dream recalling exercises. On that same night I had a ritual to do. So I went to bed to sleep. I was able to remember many dreams, woke up a few times. And then I had this dream.
I was in a room in the house that I live. It was another room not the one that I sleep in. It was a sunny summer day. I have had a necklace tied on my neck. It was a Golden Ankh, with a red diamond/ruby on the intersection part. The chain with which it was tied to my neck was golden also. And in each part of the chain was a little white diamond. It was so beautiful. However I didn't remember how I got that necklace. I don't wear any necklaces at all in the waking life as well. But I knew that this golden ankh was a powerful magickal thing.
There were 2 (FBI ?) agents with me in that room to protect me and the ankh. There is a TV in that room. During the dream it was on. And we were watching some news report. Some terrorist organization chief spoke. He was talking to his people saying that their Holy symbol (the ankh) was found/retrieved and stolen(for the details sake the terrorists were muslims , but probably this piece is just the stereotypes at work ). And they will do everything to get it back.
Then as it turned out one of the agents that were with me was a spy of that organization. He attacked me and tried to take the ankh from me. The other agent tried to stop him but he was defeated. As the terrorist attacked me I began jumping very high and quickly (in some supernatural way) so that he couldn't catch me. I jumped into the other room. There were my housemates I asked them to help but they just called the police and nothing more lol. As the terrorist was still pursuing me I decided to confront him. So I turned , jumped very high tried to hit his head with my head. He jumped as well grabbed me, as we were falling on the ground I hit on his stomach, and then I woke up.
So I usually don't have many nightmares. And whenever I have them when I wake up I feel just fine and very quickly come out of that dream state. Recognizing that it was just a dream. But this time as I woke up I felt some presence. The presence of that terrorist. At first I ignored it, thinking that it was just my imagination still in dream.
So I grabbed my pen and journal fascinated by the dream to write it. However I was writing the dream, I was still feeling that presence. I tried to meditate thinking that the feeling will pass. But in vain. I was't able to meditate. I continued to write down the dream. As I finished I still was feeling that presence.
I am usually not afraid of dark but this time it was hard for me to look into the darkness. And if I stared for a bit into the dark I think I would've seen him. Finally I tried do some sort of basic banishment. I seated in a meditation pose imagined light in my heart. Then without any control the light burst out of my heart through out the whole house. And I saw that presence/being to be burnt to ashes. And that was it. I was feeling fine. And was not afraid of anything. And that feeling of presence disappeared. Then I went on doing the ritual that I planed.

Please give me some comments on this. Any thoughts/interpretations about that dream? Can anyone tell me about the Ankh symbolism? Or give me some good links about it? Do you think it was some being trying to harm me?

[RockDemon]

Do you do any Kemetic work or other work with Egyptian deities? The Ankh is pretty synonymous with Egypt. The ankh probably also has ties to other cultures (i've forgotten for now, sorry). The ankh itself is a form of cross, and carries many of the same symbols that other crosses do--life (in regards to life here and the afterlife), hope, strength/perseverance, a thing that reaches out and brings people together. The ankh shares many similarities with other cross symbols on a general level; no ankhs for Jesus for example but the symbolism that the Latin cross carries in this instance is similar to the ankh and things that other cross symbols have represented throughout time.

The two agents I find intriguing, but I couldn't say anything definitely. My mind keeps on going back to the chart I'm still doing for you and it's making me wonder if it's a symbolic representation of something that could be going on internally. I'll have the chart done next week. Of course this week just had to be eventful [confused] Sorry about the delay on it.

Oh and of course the rubies and diamonds--two out of the five precious gemstones today! Each important symbols (imo); together with gold, they all have links to the sun, fire, strength, and that kind of thing.

If you're worried about it, maybe look into performing some kind of protection spell or ritual. I don't have great recommendations for this, but I'm sure there are others who know some really good stuff. Good luck

The thing is that I don't do any work regarding the ankh or egyptian deities. As for the cross. There is an interesting thing, during the start of this month I did divination with Lenormand Cards. For the end of the month came the cross card. Maybe it has something to do with this ?
Also this just came to me, if the 2 agents are some symbolic representation of some internal processes maybe they were my positive and negative attributes? I started to do intense introspection recently.
And as for the links to the sun, fire... I started to do sun salutations recently.. Also took my messy life in control, I would even say in full control. I am refining my will, willpower. As far as I know will is an attribute of fire element, maybe the ankh has something to do with my will power?

I understand that making the chart takes time.Don't worry.I try to wait as patiently as I can. Though I must admit I wanted to send you a pm today to check how the things are going [rolleyes]
And can you please do some comments in that chart in case you find something that may be connected to this dream?

[RoseRed]

And this is the problem that we run into when trying to understand what the Ancients were describing. I know what you mean when you say FBI guys. Tall, muscular, strong, in a suit, able to run in shiny shoes, carries weapons, on protection duty, etc. Well, everybody important and things of that nature have body guards.

So, you're somebody important, you've got this gold/jeweled ankh around your neck and there's a spy trying to take it from you.

Sounds like it would've made a cool movie. You have an extremely vivid imagination. I'm completely serious in this and in no way being condescending. This is simply the very best Intro to Lucid Dreaming I've ever come across. It's Blues Clues. I'm sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wgL9HIHg5I

You're overcomplicating things. You need to work at simplifying your thoughts instead of dressing them up. It's backwards from what most other people need to do.

When you start messing around with this stuff - things start to happen. You are inviting it into your life. Once certain doors open - you can NEVER close them all the way.

Back off with fire. It's out of balance. That's when things burn out of control and you hurt yourself.

I strongly suggest that instead of bouncing around like a kid in a bounce house - you actually start working on some foundational skills before you hurt yourself.

[RockDemon]

And this is the problem that we run into when trying to understand what the Ancients were describing. I know what you mean when you say FBI guys. Tall, muscular, strong, in a suit, able to run in shiny shoes, carries weapons, on protection duty, etc. Well, everybody important and things of that nature have body guards.

So, you're somebody important, you've got this gold/jeweled ankh around your neck and there's a spy trying to take it from you.

Sounds like it would've made a cool movie. You have an extremely vivid imagination. I'm completely serious in this and in no way being condescending. This is simply the very best Intro to Lucid Dreaming I've ever come across. It's Blues Clues. I'm sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wgL9HIHg5I

You're overcomplicating things. You need to work at simplifying your thoughts instead of dressing them up. It's backwards from what most other people need to do.

When you start messing around with this stuff - things start to happen. You are inviting it into your life. Once certain doors open - you can NEVER close them all the way.

Back off with fire. It's out of balance. That's when things burn out of control and you hurt yourself.

I strongly suggest that instead of bouncing around like a kid in a bounce house - you actually start working on some foundational skills before you hurt yourself.

[lol] I love this post. You have interesting ways.
I do understand what you say. I have some ego inflation indeed. Coming from my teenage years I guess. And I do work on it and balancing myself and working on the fundamental skills you mentioned. Thanks for the care. And if you will go into some more details , and and give some advice about balancing myself and regarding the fundamental skills, will be much appreciated.

[RoseRed]

I have a teenager. And not much patience left. I'm not Willie Wonky and I've just run out of the ability to sugar coat. I even tried to coat my tumeric balls with powdered sugar and that didn't work either. LOL [lol] [lol] [lol] Have you ever tasted a tumeric/honey ball? They are disgusting.

Anyways, when my daughter was very young she had a problem with nightmares. And she LOVED Blue's Clue's. I was at my wit's end trying to find a way to help her when this episode came on. The next morning when we got up she told me it worked.

Have you watched it yet? I can't wait to see what you think after you see it it. It's only 5 minutes. These things really aren't that complicated.

Check out Shin's post on Foundational Basics. He has such beautiful writing skills.

[RockDemon]

I have a teenager. And not much patience left. I'm not Willie Wonky and I've just run out of the ability to sugar coat. I even tried to coat my tumeric balls with powdered sugar and that didn't work either. LOL [lol] [lol] [lol] Have you ever tasted a tumeric/honey ball? They are disgusting.

Nope but they kinda look disgusting as well

Anyways, when my daughter was very young she had a problem with nightmares. And she LOVED Blue's Clue's. I was at my wit's end trying to find a way to help her when this episode came on. The next morning when we got up she told me it worked.

Have you watched it yet? I can't wait to see what you think after you see it it. It's only 5 minutes. These things really aren't that complicated.

Yeah I watched that. In fact very funny and educational. Though I cannot understand why that guy walked in such strange way, and why the trees are scary?. But the thing is I am not able to be fully lucid in my dreams yet. I am practicing on remembering them now.

Check out Shin's post on Foundational Basics. He has such beautiful writing skills.

Yes I do those, alongside with many practices of meditations. Alongside with some basic yoga practices. And of course Bardon's IIH practices with it's soul mirror work. Do you really thought I was neglecting such basics ? Come on I don't look like one of these " Tell me how to sell my soul to conquer the world [eg] " guys , right ? [greensmile]

[Neko-phyte]

The thing is that I don't do any work regarding the ankh or egyptian deities. As for the cross. There is an interesting thing, during the start of this month I did divination with Lenormand Cards. For the end of the month came the cross card. Maybe it has something to do with this ?
Also this just came to me, if the 2 agents are some symbolic representation of some internal processes maybe they were my positive and negative attributes? I started to do intense introspection recently.
And as for the links to the sun, fire... I started to do sun salutations recently.. Also took my messy life in control, I would even say in full control. I am refining my will, willpower. As far as I know will is an attribute of fire element, maybe the ankh has something to do with my will power?

I understand that making the chart takes time.Don't worry.I try to wait as patiently as I can. Though I must admit I wanted to send you a pm today to check how the things are going [rolleyes]
And can you please do some comments in that chart in case you find something that may be connected to this dream?

Hmm. Though fair enough, I didn't either until I felt their call [lol] not saying this is one, but well funny things happen in dreams sometimes. I'm not familiar with Lenormand cards; Google tells me they're oracle cards; anything important I need to know about them? What does the cross symbolise in this deck?

It may not be positive and negative attributes per se, but two different aspects of yourself that you try to reconcile. You'll see what I mean once the chart is done--I don't think I'll need to mark it, it's pretty clear. Different aspects of fire and various things related to willpower are actually fairly prominent in the chart too, now that I think about it.

This assignment I've got is kicking my arse right now lol but I have to hand it in on Monday, so fingers crossed i'll have it ready at the end of the week? I'll keep you posted in PM as well. Sorry that this has also become a little test of patience As it stands now, I'm verrrrry close to halfway done.

[RockDemon]

Hmm. Though fair enough, I didn't either until I felt their call [lol] not saying this is one, but well funny things happen in dreams sometimes. I'm not familiar with Lenormand cards; Google tells me they're oracle cards; anything important I need to know about them? What does the cross symbolise in this deck?

It may not be positive and negative attributes per se, but two different aspects of yourself that you try to reconcile. You'll see what I mean once the chart is done--I don't think I'll need to mark it, it's pretty clear. Different aspects of fire and various things related to willpower are actually fairly prominent in the chart too, now that I think about it.

This assignment I've got is kicking my arse right now lol but I have to hand it in on Monday, so fingers crossed i'll have it ready at the end of the week? I'll keep you posted in PM as well. Sorry that this has also become a little test of patience As it stands now, I'm verrrrry close to halfway done.

Yes , Lenormand Cards are oracle cards. They work a little bit different than Tarot cards. The Cross symbolism in this system is mostly Christian. It represents suffering. A cross to bear. Well I am very worn out and kind of tired in these few days. Maybe that card represented that. But one thing to note is that tiredness came after the dream.
The things you say about the chart makes it more intriguing. Now it is gonna be harder to wait
Just joking please take as much time as you need.

[RoseRed]

Why the trees were so scary - cuz that dude is a creep like PeeWee Herman. (He got caught jacking off in a porn theater way back when. It was in the local papers)

Anyways...

Yes I do those, alongside with many practices of meditations. Alongside with some basic yoga practices. And of course Bardon's IIH practices with it's soul mirror work. Do you really thought I was neglecting such basics ? Come on I don't look like one of these " Tell me how to sell my soul to conquer the world [eg] " guys , right ? [greensmile]

I'm of the belief that the different titles people choose to go by (wizard, mage, ceremonial, chaos, witch, whatever) all have specific and slightly different definitions. I also think that the reason they do things differently is because they inherently interact with the energetic world around us differently.

It's a very good thing that you've got those skills down. Now tame the impetuousness and you're good! Ya need skilz b4 u can conquer the world.

OMG! I have seen this so much in the last couple months. So many people know they have some type of inherent ability, read the surface definitions and decide - this is what I am. (We'll go with ceremonial magickian for ease of conversation CM). So, they read and study all the correct instruction manuals. They're a natural at the exercises and can't figure out why everyone else is having so much difficulty. Let toss out the other things I do that are rather advanced Work. ok - that just tells me you're a Natural. Congrats and Condolences. It gets both easier and harder from here.

Do you want to continue studying what you think you should be or do you want to learn the skills to be what you actually are?

(And you don't have to know what that is right now. You'll figure that out as you go. Don't complicate your life when there's no reason to). I've seen people that have done this for decades and they are very frustrated in the practice but they're devoted - they don't give up just because it's difficult. Difficult is to be expected. Don't kid yourself.

Can you biofeedback yet?

[RockDemon]

I'm of the belief that the different titles people choose to go by (wizard, mage, ceremonial, chaos, witch, whatever) all have specific and slightly different definitions. I also think that the reason they do things differently is because they inherently interact with the energetic world around us differently.

It's a very good thing that you've got those skills down. Now tame the impetuousness and you're good! Ya need skilz b4 u can conquer the world.

OMG! I have seen this so much in the last couple months. So many people know they have some type of inherent ability, read the surface definitions and decide - this is what I am. (We'll go with ceremonial magickian for ease of conversation CM). So, they read and study all the correct instruction manuals. They're a natural at the exercises and can't figure out why everyone else is having so much difficulty. Let toss out the other things I do that are rather advanced Work. ok - that just tells me you're a Natural. Congrats and Condolences. It gets both easier and harder from here.

Do you want to continue studying what you think you should be or do you want to learn the skills to be what you actually are?

(And you don't have to know what that is right now. You'll figure that out as you go. Don't complicate your life when there's no reason to). I've seen people that have done this for decades and they are very frustrated in the practice but they're devoted - they don't give up just because it's difficult. Difficult is to be expected. Don't kid yourself.

Can you biofeedback yet?

Yes I understand. And you are right , I am not sure right now what/who actually I am. But I do not just stop practicing thinking 'I don't know this or that why practice". I just go on practicing what seems to be right for me now. Then maybe I will end up on a completely different path. And I know that difficulties are to be expected. That's been proved to me many times

I am not so familiar with the term "biofeedback" but as I look at it's definition I can do most things written there. I guess the answer is yes.